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If a student verbal commits to a NESCAC July 1st, I assume they can still play through July and try for D1? Or, if they verbal does that take them "off the board" where no D1's will have an interest?

Too many parents act like coaches are notIntelligent and can't evaluate players on losing teams.

I thought the NESCACs were August 1. And verbals are verbals until NLIs are signed. However, there non NLIs in D3 since there is no athletic scholarships in D3. Plenty of stories of D3 players that get cut in the fall of freshman year.

What does the language "committed to the application process" mean on most of the commits I'm seeing this week? That IF they can get into the school they are going to play?

That ball hog with no varsity stats just committed D1 so I guess it worked.

it really means if they can maintain their grades , test scores and behavior etc etc etc , they will get in, but they are not in until they are in - but chances are , the work that has been done thus far is good enough

Yes, this wording is usually with Ivies, NESCAC and the Academies.

Interesting. They all have to get in regardless. But I guess with D1 the coaches have a bit more influence? And that’s why those kids don’t use that language?

Committed doesn’t mean admitting. The coaches send the transcripts to admissions and get a sense that can make the verbal. There is no athletic money at d3 and players do not sign a letter of intent, like d1 and d2.

The pre-read goes through the admissions team so if you get a verbal commitment to the admissions process that means that you will get get accepted if you apply early decision/action assuming that your grades/scores stay where the are between now and then.

exactly

That is correct. End the club run for this group. But recruiting isn’t over.

Nice to see the completely uncommitted roster from East Coast Elite playing dirty in front of college coaches today while their parents screamed at the opponents parents. That's how you get recruited.

Spoiled kids used to getting their own way I guess.

Which game?

Not every kid wants to play in college. Those parents are brutal every weekend though. Mostly the Sayville and Bay Shore ones.

They were playing a Legacy team. Not sure which one. My kid was playing on the same field right after. Saw one kid intentionally hit a kid in the neck/head with a two handed slash.

lol. My son’s team played them in the past. They aren’t bad. How many coaches were watching? Because that team doesn’t really travel and doesn’t get a lot of exposure.

Friendly advice for uncommitted 25’s:
If you are still waiting for a D1, you may still get one but be prepared to be at the very bottom of the depth chart next fall. If you have a D3 offer in hand from a school that you couldn’t get into without lacrosse, take it because it might not be there in another month.

There weren't many coaches watching. I really only saw one pole slash a kid from behind in the head and neck away from the play. I'm not sure what the attack man said to deserve that though. 17 year olds should be able to control themselves more than that though.

This is excellent advice

Agree. Your son should be having solid conversations going on at this point. D1 offers are still available, but coaches are being selective.

Based on what I'm hearing from my son's teammates the D1 offers are roster spots more than $$$. That's great if D1 matters to you but don't ignore the D2 and D3 schools!

Also be sure to look at roster sizes for some of these D1 schools. They don't mind a team of 60 but how many dress and play?

Making a D1 roster is a lot different than actually playing. About 20 players at most will get real (non @ChillLaxin) playing time in a typical game:

3 A, 3 D, 2 LSM, 4 SS, 6 OM, 1 FO, 1 G

If you actually want to play, you need to be very realistic with your options. If you are the 15th kid in the recruiting class of 15 players the odds are very low you will crack into the depth chart even as an upper classman. If you are a top 3 recruit out of 15 you will likely get real minutes as a freshman. Ask the coach where you fall on their list. Some will be honest with you. But if you are a 2025 and get a D1 offer in July, this is a good indicator that you are at the very bottom of their list and probably a four year scout player, which every program needs. All bets are off for fogos and goalies where there are usually only one of each recruited per class, but if you are the 6th pole or 6th offensive player on their list, the odds are stacked against you.

This is sad but true. Once in a while a late summer D1 recruit will peak late and end up being an impact player but typically a July/August D1 commit will end up a bench player.

In my opinion, a lot of commits are just enrollment boosters for the school.

Thankyou B team parent!

Somewhat true. Most late D1 commits are what the coaches call GPA players. These are players with high GPA’s that will help the overall GPA average of the team. Most coaches have a GPA bonus. The higher their teams GPA the more bonus money the receive sometimes one of these GPA kids turn out to be a pretty good college player
Some late commits are kids that go under the radar My older
Son’s( 2023)HS teammate didn’t get recruited until October of senior year. He was always a good player. But played on a B club team. Got bad recruiting advice and just wasn’t being seen. He ended up getting significant minutes as a freshman. If you truly believe your son has what it takes and he wants D1. Don’t give up. But also. Don’t just pick a school solely for lacrosse
If he is a middle of the road student maybe take a year at Nassau, play and then renter the recruiting process a year later

A lot of kids will have a great experience being a down-the-roster player on a D1 team too.

This are the same kids who go to tourneys and watch guest players play and they sit on the bench. It’s so funny at this point that parents tolerate that.. Can’t use the justification anymore of practice with the best makes you better. Because these kids don’t practice lol.

Such a shame that these fields at SB are cooked.

Prime Time wins AA. Shock less spent after the semis

West Coast Stars wins A

Who won the platinum? What about Plutonium?

Who cares? Last licks and chances to be seen by college coaches. W and L don't matter.

Good point. But I still shake my head at seeing so many kids on these NLF teams that don’t play. Can’t be seen from the bench unless you walk over to the coaches and introduce yourself…

At least you can introduce yourself to one of the 30 or so Coaches that will be watching. And the few good organizations know that the mid level players on the top teams need looks.

How are the boys doing at SUSA this week? I'm hearing there are a lot of coaches. I'm stuck at work.

Lots of coaches. It is also really, really hot!!

Hopefully a bunch of 2025s find homes after this week.

So now that it’s over, except one or two event this weekend in Philly and Yale. Was the team choices you made for son correct? Where or expectations met or was it all a lot of talk?

White team pulled out of their last tourney at Yale today. I wonder if that whole merger of a grade between Rush and Legscy was successful?