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HoCo switched to the 15 month window supported by US lacrosse last year.

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Except when they get to 8th grade. Then it goes back to a 2 year window! No joke! Hahaha

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HoCo switched to the 15 month window supported by US lacrosse last year.

Both are run by Baltimorons who have the MIAA holdback mentality.

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Maybe that was per of transitioning to age based? You can see the age guidelines here:

https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/8983-3156974/GHCLC_Spring_2025_Guidelines.pdf

There aren’t any exceptions for any of the grades that I see.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe that was per of transitioning to age based? You can see the age guidelines here:

https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/8983-3156974/GHCLC_Spring_2025_Guidelines.pdf

There aren’t any exceptions for any of the grades that I see.

Not true. 2029 was extended by a year for upcoming season, likely to appease the MIAA crowd

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe that was per of transitioning to age based? You can see the age guidelines here:

https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/8983-3156974/GHCLC_Spring_2025_Guidelines.pdf

There aren’t any exceptions for any of the grades that I see.

Last year, to be eligible to play in HOCO 7th grade (2029 class year), your birthdate could be no earlier than June 1, 2010. That was the 15 month window. Now, to be eligible to play HOCO 8th grade (2029 class years, your birthdate could be no earlier than June 1, 2009. In other words, they add an entire year to the 2029s.

The rumor is that Cabell wanted the option of pushing his 2028 son down into the 29 year and pushed HOCO on this because his son isn't good enough at the 28 level. Whether this is true or not I have no idea but it sounds like something he would do.

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I dislike CM too, but that’s silly. It’s because a substantial percentage of kids reclass at that point and it would be disruptive to teams (particularly at the elite level) if 30 percent or more of their roster is ineligible.

You want to reclass as you transition to private… there’s nothing in place to stop that now, but in my opinion you should only get to play grade 8 hoco once not twice. It’s ridiculous and disruption be damned.

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Kid is now on the appropriate age group B team.
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Kid is now on the appropriate age group B team.
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Kid is now on the appropriate age group B team.

Why wasn’t the kid on the right team in the first place with the club?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Maybe that was per of transitioning to age based? You can see the age guidelines here:

https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/document/8983-3156974/GHCLC_Spring_2025_Guidelines.pdf

There aren’t any exceptions for any of the grades that I see.

Last year, to be eligible to play in HOCO 7th grade (2029 class year), your birthdate could be no earlier than June 1, 2010. That was the 15 month window. Now, to be eligible to play HOCO 8th grade (2029 class years, your birthdate could be no earlier than June 1, 2009. In other words, they add an entire year to the 2029s.

The rumor is that Cabell wanted the option of pushing his 2028 son down into the 29 year and pushed HOCO on this because his son isn't good enough at the 28 level. Whether this is true or not I have no idea but it sounds like something he would do.


When your 2034 is in 8th grade he will be playing against boys born after June 1, 2014 and not the June 1, 2015 date that is common for this age group. So your 8th grader born on August 31, 2016 might be playing against a kid born on June 1, 2014. That is 2 years and almost 3 month difference. SMH...great job lacrosse and HOCO

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Actually, it makes sense. Kids who are held back for purposes other than athletic advantage would not be able to play lax for a year and would essentially be required to sit out bc they can’t play HS either. That’s exclusion. Sounds like a double struggle for some kids and even though you’re anonymous, whiney Meanywants your way, this is about the kids. After 8th grade year your kids going to be playing with men anyway and you’re going to have to fully cut the umbilical cord. What you should consider the most is the message you’re sending your kid and the weakness you’re ingraining in him. Those big boys can sniff that out in the locker room. You think I’m wrong? Let him find out the hard way.

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Dude..stop screaming at the wall. I have been through this rodeo a few times and your arguments are all played out. Don't get your panties in a bunch everytime someone simply states the facts. Take a seat on the bench...your holdback will be right next to you after all the young kids surpass him in HS.

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Actually, it makes sense. Kids who are held back for purposes other than athletic advantage would not be able to play lax for a year and would essentially be required to sit out bc they can’t play HS either. That’s exclusion. Sounds like a double struggle for some kids and even though you’re anonymous, whiney Meanywants your way, this is about the kids. After 8th grade year your kids going to be playing with men anyway and you’re going to have to fully cut the umbilical cord. What you should consider the most is the message you’re sending your kid and the weakness you’re ingraining in him. Those big boys can sniff that out in the locker room. You think I’m wrong? Let him find out the hard way.
They wouldn't have to sit out a year under an age model. If you go by age, it makes the most sense. The club team continues into that u14 and u15, u16 groupings.
Soccer does it. US Lacrosse world games does it. You can have 8th and 9th graders on the same year. But the age keeps the age gap smaller.
It's also helps with true evaluation of talent as opposed to old kids just dominating younger kids.

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I dislike CM too, but that’s silly. It’s because a substantial percentage of kids reclass at that point and it would be disruptive to teams (particularly at the elite level) if 30 percent or more of their roster is ineligible.

You want to reclass as you transition to private… there’s nothing in place to stop that now, but in my opinion you should only get to play grade 8 hoco once not twice. It’s ridiculous and disruption be damned.

LOL you're not wrong, a number of the 2028s played their 2nd 8th grade Hoco season this year. And a number of "2029s" (some turning 15 this fall...7th grade) will be playing their second 8th grade season this year. Madlax, Crabs, FCA, and Hawks all come to mind.

A intended to be helpful note also - if you have private school admissions folks in your circle, get some data from them when you see them. I highly recommend that anybody who's got their kid in a public or a private "non feeder" school to take a look at the acceptance rates at the better private schools for 9th grade these days. Get adjusted for the reality of 8th grade applications. I know that club directors are already filling your heads with dreams of "9th grade schollys" (maybe 2 per year per school btw). BUT.

There are a huge number of 2027 and 2028 laxers from "good schools" and "good families" with "good grades" who didn't get into their top 3 or 4 private high schools in MD.......the landscape is changing quickly and become intensely competitive at "most" of the WCAC, IAC, and MIAA top tier schools.

If you're in MoCo or HoCo you may not be seeing this (because by and large the public schools are some of the best in the country) but you'll note that the top 50 public HS in Maryland (almost entirely moco and hoco) include something like 3 (of 35) Balt County schools, 1 (of 30ish) in Baltimore City, 1 (of 18) in AACO, 0 (of 30) in PG County, 1 (of 10?) in Carroll County, and 1 (of 15?) in Harford County. That's an awful lot of male athletes with A's and B's looking for a decent private education. Rough math, probably 20,000 athletes in those "not great schools" counties, with 5,000 of them with good grades and parents willing/able to stroke a check for HS. Another 500 or so are already in feeder private schools. And maybe 100 out of state sports and academic prospects. Not counting public school 8th grade boys from MoCo, Hoco, DC, or Virginia, which, let's just add 1000.

So those roughly 6600 kids will be applying for roughly 800 MIAA-A, about 700 WCAC, and about 500 IAC student spots. Giving the average B student, AA/AAA 2 sport athlete a roughly 30% chance of being admitted to any of these schools for 9th grade.

And from what I'm seeing, it's tightening up even further...

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