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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.

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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.

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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

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In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

You really are dense, If your IVY student is a slacker academically who used lacrosse to get into the school they will not go far . The poster hands you an article that did the research but you know better because your oldest is not doing as well as you had hoped. Princeton would cost 80k a year for my kids they would have been better saving the 360 k and learning a trade than attending . It really depends on what you want to do for a career , most people have no idea where their MD, Accountant , DDS, Attorney etc went to undergrad. Your reply to the post about the article is nonsensical.

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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

You really are dense, If your IVY student is a slacker academically who used lacrosse to get into the school they will not go far . The poster hands you an article that did the research but you know better because your oldest is not doing as well as you had hoped. Princeton would cost 80k a year for my kids they would have been better saving the 360 k and learning a trade than attending . It really depends on what you want to do for a career , most people have no idea where their MD, Accountant , DDS, Attorney etc went to undergrad. Your reply to the post about the article is nonsensical.

Lol, it is extremely rare for an IVY student to be a slacker. I have a IVY kid and team culture is that of success on and off the field. There are no “slackers” on his team. I am also very good friends with several other IVY/top 20 school families who say the same. You clearly know nothing, but that’s okay. It takes all types to make the world go around. I gave you advice from personal experience. My oldest is fine but has had to work ten times harder to reach the same goals as a top 10 grad. Like I stated before, with all other factors equal (major, gpa), the IVY grad has a huge advantage. Of course there are exceptions, but why not put your child in the best possible position to be successful? That shouldn’t be too hard to understand

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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

You really are dense, If your IVY student is a slacker academically who used lacrosse to get into the school they will not go far . The poster hands you an article that did the research but you know better because your oldest is not doing as well as you had hoped. Princeton would cost 80k a year for my kids they would have been better saving the 360 k and learning a trade than attending . It really depends on what you want to do for a career , most people have no idea where their MD, Accountant , DDS, Attorney etc went to undergrad. Your reply to the post about the article is nonsensical.

Lol, it is extremely rare for an IVY student to be a slacker. I have a IVY kid and team culture is that of success on and off the field. There are no “slackers” on his team. I am also very good friends with several other IVY/top 20 school families who say the same. You clearly know nothing, but that’s okay. It takes all types to make the world go around. I gave you advice from personal experience. My oldest is fine but has had to work ten times harder to reach the same goals as a top 10 grad. Like I stated before, with all other factors equal (major, gpa), the IVY grad has a huge advantage. Of course there are exceptions, but why not put your child in the best possible position to be successful? That shouldn’t be too hard to understand

“”””””” That shouldn’t be too hard to understand””””””

Ha.. Ha…. You must be new to this … 🤣

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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

You really are dense, If your IVY student is a slacker academically who used lacrosse to get into the school they will not go far . The poster hands you an article that did the research but you know better because your oldest is not doing as well as you had hoped. Princeton would cost 80k a year for my kids they would have been better saving the 360 k and learning a trade than attending . It really depends on what you want to do for a career , most people have no idea where their MD, Accountant , DDS, Attorney etc went to undergrad. Your reply to the post about the article is nonsensical.

Lol, it is extremely rare for an IVY student to be a slacker. I have a IVY kid and team culture is that of success on and off the field. There are no “slackers” on his team. I am also very good friends with several other IVY/top 20 school families who say the same. You clearly know nothing, but that’s okay. It takes all types to make the world go around. I gave you advice from personal experience. My oldest is fine but has had to work ten times harder to reach the same goals as a top 10 grad. Like I stated before, with all other factors equal (major, gpa), the IVY grad has a huge advantage. Of course there are exceptions, but why not put your child in the best possible position to be successful? That shouldn’t be too hard to understand

“”””””” That shouldn’t be too hard to understand””””””

Ha.. Ha…. You must be new to this … 🤣

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Some "Caliber" schools didn't have good team grades to make "All Academic" yet you applaud those schools for their lacrosse. So which is it? Lacrosse or Academics. If both Stony Brook hasn't made the academic cut in the last few years....

Gibberish.

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In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

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In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

Very typical, someone posts something relevant and informative without attacking any player, program, university etc... and some low life comes on with a snide comment.

Looks like your soul has already been [Censored] out. Sorry life has treated you so poorly that you feel the need to lash out without provocation. Hopefully things will improve for you.

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In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

Very typical, someone posts something relevant and informative without attacking any player, program, university etc... and some low life comes on with a snide comment.

Looks like your soul has already been [Censored] out. Sorry life has treated you so poorly that you feel the need to lash out without provocation. Hopefully things will improve for you.

I'm pretty darn happy, but I'm always interested in how all of your comments are always so negative. It sounds like you may be projecting.

Not everyone wants to be the same things when they "grow up."

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In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

Very typical, someone posts something relevant and informative without attacking any player, program, university etc... and some low life comes on with a snide comment.

Looks like your soul has already been [Censored] out. Sorry life has treated you so poorly that you feel the need to lash out without provocation. Hopefully things will improve for you.

I'm pretty darn happy, but I'm always interested in how all of your comments are always so negative. It sounds like you may be projecting.

Not everyone wants to be the same things when they "grow up."

Actions speak louder than words, you went out of your way to make a disparaging reply to a post that was not offensive to anyone. You are what you are and I am sure everyone knows what that is.

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In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

Very typical, someone posts something relevant and informative without attacking any player, program, university etc... and some low life comes on with a snide comment.

Looks like your soul has already been [Censored] out. Sorry life has treated you so poorly that you feel the need to lash out without provocation. Hopefully things will improve for you.

I'm pretty darn happy, but I'm always interested in how all of your comments are always so negative. It sounds like you may be projecting.

Not everyone wants to be the same things when they "grow up."

Actions speak louder than words, you went out of your way to make a disparaging reply to a post that was not offensive to anyone. You are what you are and I am sure everyone knows what that is.

And what is that?

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Do you think after the Spallina kid goes to Clemson, BOTC will put back up the 2025 forum page so parents can start connecting with each other?

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Do you think after the Spallina kid goes to Clemson, BOTC will put back up the 2025 forum page so parents can start connecting with each other?


Seriously why is the girls 2025 page disabled? I’ve started using the fan lax forum page instead

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Do you think after the Spallina kid goes to Clemson, BOTC will put back up the 2025 forum page so parents can start connecting with each other?


Seriously why is the girls 2025 page disabled? I’ve started using the fan lax forum page instead

Your lucky. That page is 1000 times better

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Yep. She made her decision and just like that the page is back up. Will announce after she calls all the colleges and lets them know.

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In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

And what professions do you deem virtuous? Please tell us all.

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Go to the best school you can get into with lax as a helper! NOBODY cares about lacrosse and will not No your name a year after you graduate….but the school you go to will open doors and create opportunities. Be smart!!

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges

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Go to the best school you can get into with lax as a helper! NOBODY cares about lacrosse and will not No your name a year after you graduate….but the school you go to will open doors and create opportunities. Be smart!!

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges

Exactly!

Many of the top academic schools in the country have women's lacrosse.... Over the past several years the programs listed below have proven themselves (based on performance year in and year out) to be the strongest DI programs (maybe a few others as well). All are excellent schools (yes, I know they are not all equal) that can offer great opportunities for women's lacrosse players. When you look at the Top Academic schools many are also top lacrosse schools and without Lacrosse, most of our daughters would not be able to gain admittance. Be thankful !!

A lot of crossover between the list below, the four lists previously posted and the US News Top 20 - 25 etc...

Incredible opportunities out there for young lacrosse players.

- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse
- JMU
- Stony Brook
- Folrida
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Loyola
- Penn
- Duke
- Denver
- Stanford
- Penn State
- Hopkins
- USC
- Colorado
- Navy
- Umass

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Not sure Stony Brook and UMass belong on any top academic list, but I def see your point; take advantage of the opportunity for life beyond school/lax.

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Not sure Stony Brook and UMass belong on any top academic list, but I def see your point; take advantage of the opportunity for life beyond school/lax.

Why go after SBU when there are many on that list ranked academically below them.

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Not sure Stony Brook and UMass belong on any top academic list, but I def see your point; take advantage of the opportunity for life beyond school/lax.

Why go after SBU when there are many on that list ranked academically below them.

The list above is referring to top "lacrosse" programs not top "academic" schools. All of the schools above are good schools and can be a good fit and the right choice for some.

As for SBU, they jumped up a bit in the US News Rankings this year and have surpassed some of the other top lacrosse schools in terms of academic ranking but we will always find haters on here trying to knock athletes, teams, schools etc...

Some want the best academic school, some want the best lacrosse school, some want to be close to home, some want a big school, some want a small school, some want warm weather, some want a city school, some want the west coast, some want southern, some are not sure what they want...

If you are going through the recruiting process, just help your daughter find the best fit for her.

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Not sure Stony Brook and UMass belong on any top academic list, but I def see your point; take advantage of the opportunity for life beyond school/lax.

Why go after SBU when there are many on that list ranked academically below them.

The list above is referring to top "lacrosse" programs not top "academic" schools. All of the schools above are good schools and can be a good fit and the right choice for some.

As for SBU, they jumped up a bit in the US News Rankings this year and have surpassed some of the other top lacrosse schools in terms of academic ranking but we will always find haters on here trying to knock athletes, teams, schools etc...

Some want the best academic school, some want the best lacrosse school, some want to be close to home, some want a big school, some want a small school, some want warm weather, some want a city school, some want the west coast, some want southern, some are not sure what they want...

If you are going through the recruiting process, just help your daughter find the best fit for her.

That makes way too much sense remember it’s all about either the best academic school or the best lacrosse not the best fit .

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Florida State adding women's lacrosse

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Florida State adding women's lacrosse

Great news!

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OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

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OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

I like the defensive off sides greencard. Go back to the old system on the ride but make it on the second foul its a greencard.

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USF grabbing another 9 kids. What the heck is their roster gonna look like in 2025. 45-50 kids. That’s insane. I’m sure kids will be jumping ship realizing they are never gonna step on the field.

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OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

I like the defensive off sides greencard. Go back to the old system on the ride but make it on the second foul its a greencard.

Can you enlighten me what the greencard penalties in the midfield? I'm not as current with the rule changes.

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OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

I like the defensive off sides greencard. Go back to the old system on the ride but make it on the second foul its a greencard.

Can you enlighten me what the greencard penalties in the midfield? I'm not as current with the rule changes.

Just about anything. You touch a player green card, you enter the circle to early on the draw green card, charge green card, cross check green card, embellishing on a foul green card. The new rules have slowed the game down and made it awful to watch. D1 coaches need to demand an emergency rules committee meeting before the spring to discuss.

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OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

I like the defensive off sides greencard. Go back to the old system on the ride but make it on the second foul its a greencard.

Can you enlighten me what the greencard penalties in the midfield? I'm not as current with the rule changes.

Just about anything. You touch a player green card, you enter the circle to early on the draw green card, charge green card, cross check green card, embellishing on a foul green card. The new rules have slowed the game down and made it awful to watch. D1 coaches need to demand an emergency rules committee meeting before the spring to discuss.
I believe it’s a test run & will be voted on before the Soring season. It’s awful! Green cards within seconds of a game starting, literally.

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Off topic but relevant. LA 2028 has approved lacrosse, as a Sixes game, for the 2028 Olympics. Great news.

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Off topic but relevant. LA 2028 has approved lacrosse, as a Sixes game, for the 2028 Olympics. Great news.

It's better than nothing. I don't understand why do a Sixes game other than to level the playing field a bit as most other countries will be far behind the US.

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How is Fall Ball going? Whose looking good? Any freshman getting in? Also, what’s the deal with U20?? Why did they spilt squads into those who made it and those on bubble. Some big BC transfer did nothing will still make it? NW girls got lots of free passes as well. It’s a shame that the tryout wasn’t fair!

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I would hope freshman are seeing the field during fall ball - why wouldn't they? It's fall ball!

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