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Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #411270 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A I also heard that Jesters are building their own indoor training facility. If that’s true they would be the only club on Long Island who is prioritizing training and that’s all I care about for my kid.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #411279 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Been the rumor for a couple years now, but I'll believe it when ground is broken

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411282 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous I also heard that Jesters are building their own indoor training facility. If that’s true they would be the only club on Long Island who is prioritizing training and that’s all I care about for my kid. Doesn’t team 91 have their own indoor facility?

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #411290 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Congratulations IGLOO on doing it the right way . They will lie and make stuff up . We will be at tryouts

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411293 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Igloo failed miserably and will fail again. Heard a rumor they put Sam Tilt as girl’s Director who has been fired from three clubs in four years. That’s a bit alarming I’d say! Did Tilts leave Jesters? Going to Igloo as Girls Program Director (and coach of a few teams)...she's fantastic - good pick up by them Agreed she has been fantastic with my daughters and more important than anything my daughters leave her confident and happy. Great role model and I can't imagine the type of person, or their motive, in spreading detest.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411294 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I also heard that Jesters are building their own indoor training facility. If that’s true they would be the only club on Long Island who is prioritizing training and that’s all I care about for my kid. Doesn’t team 91 have their own indoor facility? 91 has one but very very small

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411304 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I also heard that Jesters are building their own indoor training facility. If that’s true they would be the only club on Long Island who is prioritizing training and that’s all I care about for my kid. Doesn’t team 91 have their own indoor facility? 91 has one but very very small m 91 facility is not very small. It’s actually very good for training/stick skills the way they utilize it. But not big enough to scrimmage go full field

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #411307 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A As some of us are looking to switch clubs this summer, it would be great to poll 1. How many times a week and how long do you practice 2. Parent coach or trainer led practices 3. Goalie coaching during practice Would be great to hear from the clubs that have contributed so far on this thread.. Jesters, Liberty, YJ, Top Guns, and anyone else. Thank you.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411309 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous As some of us are looking to switch clubs this summer, it would be great to poll 1. How many times a week and how long do you practice 2. Parent coach or trainer led practices 3. Goalie coaching during practice Would be great to hear from the clubs that have contributed so far on this thread.. Jesters, Liberty, YJ, Top Guns, and anyone else. Thank you. Please also post which team - so for example liberty black Vs liberty red.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411368 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous As some of us are looking to switch clubs this summer, it would be great to poll 1. How many times a week and how long do you practice 2. Parent coach or trainer led practices 3. Goalie coaching during practice Would be great to hear from the clubs that have contributed so far on this thread.. Jesters, Liberty, YJ, Top Guns, and anyone else. Thank you. Please also post which team - so for example liberty black Vs liberty red. Thoughts?

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411407 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous As some of us are looking to switch clubs this summer, it would be great to poll 1. How many times a week and how long do you practice 2. Parent coach or trainer led practices 3. Goalie coaching during practice Would be great to hear from the clubs that have contributed so far on this thread.. Jesters, Liberty, YJ, Top Guns, and anyone else. Thank you. Please also post which team - so for example liberty black Vs liberty red. Thoughts? Can't a parent be a trainer too?! I'll assume you believe that so called trainers are better than parent coaches. There are plenty of parents who know the game, can coach and are fully invested into the team.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411710 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous As some of us are looking to switch clubs this summer, it would be great to poll 1. How many times a week and how long do you practice 2. Parent coach or trainer led practices 3. Goalie coaching during practice Would be great to hear from the clubs that have contributed so far on this thread.. Jesters, Liberty, YJ, Top Guns, and anyone else. Thank you. Please also post which team - so for example liberty black Vs liberty red. Thoughts? Lacrosse has historically been selfish sport. Don’t expect a reply here as parents don’t want you taking Suzie’s spot on a team.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #411801 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous As some of us are looking to switch clubs this summer, it would be great to poll 1. How many times a week and how long do you practice 2. Parent coach or trainer led practices 3. Goalie coaching during practice Would be great to hear from the clubs that have contributed so far on this thread.. Jesters, Liberty, YJ, Top Guns, and anyone else. Thank you. Please also post which team - so for example liberty black Vs liberty red. Thoughts? Lacrosse has historically been selfish sport. Don’t expect a reply here as parents don’t want you taking Suzie’s spot on a team. Crickets….lol.. you’re not wrong

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #411822 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A 91 practices 2-3 x per week based on season. Outdoors at Hills, indoors in Commack. Head coach is in HOF at stony Brook as a player and is very high energy and great w the girls. Other 3 coaches are dads who have girls on the team but all coach in high school as well. Girls director does goalie training and they have an off season goalie program. Great group of girls

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #412052 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I also heard that Jesters are building their own indoor training facility. If that’s true they would be the only club on Long Island who is prioritizing training and that’s all I care about for my kid. Doubtful, given where interest rates are and the banks are not lending like they used to. The cost to service the debt would be more than what they are collecting in fees For all the teams ($x,xxx per player) . They could go to an alternative lender but would be more expensive than bank financing. There’s always the option that someone would pony up the cash but doubtful. so bottom line… unlikely you also don't need indoor space to prioritize training, you just need access to fields consistently.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #412077 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I also heard that Jesters are building their own indoor training facility. If that’s true they would be the only club on Long Island who is prioritizing training and that’s all I care about for my kid. Doubtful, given where interest rates are and the banks are not lending like they used to. The cost to service the debt would be more than what they are collecting in fees For all the teams ($x,xxx per player) . They could go to an alternative lender but would be more expensive than bank financing. There’s always the option that someone would pony up the cash but doubtful. so bottom line… unlikely you also don't need indoor space to prioritize training, you just need access to fields consistently. This model only works if you have a partner in another sports who can committ to taking a good chunk of the field time. The rumor for a while has been the SUSA is looking to build an indoor soccer facility. I'm sure they would be more than open to having a lax club share costs with them

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #412087 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Jesters is renting space and calling it their own.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #412241 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Jesters is renting space and calling it their own. Leasing

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #413839 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Do your homework. Liberty 2030 beat Legacy, Jesters and Tradition. But that's right you are posting anonymously. Fact check!!!! rzeyza

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #414148 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Do your homework. Liberty 2030 beat Legacy, Jesters and Tradition. But that's right you are posting anonymously. Fact check!!!! rzeyza Again, 2 of these were to B teams. fact check!

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #414379 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous In terms of rankings would put Tradition over Legacy given their 8-4 win over Legacy Blue this past October at the Fall Queen of the Island. 1. YJ Babst 2. Jesters Black 3. Tradition 4. Legacy Blue 3. Top Guns? I have no idea haven’t seen TG play against any of the above. Have generally seen the top 4 at the same tournaments. Not sure about TG. Standings in MD. 1. M&D - World Beaters, bow before them. 2. MD United - Incredibly good. Very skilled offensively 3. Heros Green - good, not great 4. BLC - good, not great. 5. Coppermine - Avg

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #414525 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous In terms of rankings would put Tradition over Legacy given their 8-4 win over Legacy Blue this past October at the Fall Queen of the Island. 1. YJ Babst 2. Jesters Black 3. Tradition 4. Legacy Blue 3. Top Guns? I have no idea haven’t seen TG play against any of the above. Have generally seen the top 4 at the same tournaments. Not sure about TG. Standings in MD. 1. M&D - World Beaters, bow before them. 2. MD United - Incredibly good. Very skilled offensively 3. Heros Green - good, not great 4. BLC - good, not great. 5. Coppermine - Avg Accurate, M&D, tremendous size advantage and speed. Defense attacking. Will beat you on draws. MDU, legit speed. can score from all over as well. good defense/goalie play Hero's, solid team, lacks dominant scorer but good all around BLC, a few very tall girls, solid, DC is strength Coppermine, average is accurate.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #414650 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A July 22nd

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #414907 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A I agree this is accurate (and consistent with league results last two years), although I think the gap between 3-5 is narrowing.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #415100 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous In terms of rankings would put Tradition over Legacy given their 8-4 win over Legacy Blue this past October at the Fall Queen of the Island. 1. YJ Babst 2. Jesters Black 3. Tradition 4. Legacy Blue 3. Top Guns? I have no idea haven’t seen TG play against any of the above. Have generally seen the top 4 at the same tournaments. Not sure about TG. Standings in MD. 1. M&D - World Beaters, bow before them. 2. MD United - Incredibly good. Very skilled offensively 3. Heros Green - good, not great 4. BLC - good, not great. 5. Coppermine - Avg Accurate, M&D, tremendous size advantage and speed. Defense attacking. Will beat you on draws. MDU, legit speed. can score from all over as well. good defense/goalie play Hero's, solid team, lacks dominant scorer but good all around BLC, a few very tall girls, solid, DC is strength Coppermine, average is accurate. Finally some good NY/MD match ups at Lax for the cure. M&D/HerosGreen/BLC vs LI Top Guns (Rose Bracket) MDU vs YJN/Pred's (Carnation Bracket)

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #415288 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Looking to move clubs also 2030 girls..we were looking at the jesters but got turned off by the merger..so which clubs are the best for development and training?

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #415379 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Looking to move clubs also 2030 girls..we were looking at the jesters but got turned off by the merger..so which clubs are the best for development and training? Tons of 2030 on LI to choose from but what turned you off about the merger?

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #415471 Joined: Jun 2023 Posts: 1 Alxd18 Back of THE CAGE Alxd18 Back of THE CAGE Joined: Jun 2023 Posts: 1 They already have 3 teams at that level..will this affect playing time and development?

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #415548 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous In terms of rankings would put Tradition over Legacy given their 8-4 win over Legacy Blue this past October at the Fall Queen of the Island. 1. YJ Babst 2. Jesters Black 3. Tradition 4. Legacy Blue 3. Top Guns? I have no idea haven’t seen TG play against any of the above. Have generally seen the top 4 at the same tournaments. Not sure about TG. Standings in MD. 1. M&D - World Beaters, bow before them. 2. MD United - Incredibly good. Very skilled offensively 3. Heros Green - good, not great 4. BLC - good, not great. 5. Coppermine - Avg Accurate, M&D, tremendous size advantage and speed. Defense attacking. Will beat you on draws. MDU, legit speed. can score from all over as well. good defense/goalie play Hero's, solid team, lacks dominant scorer but good all around BLC, a few very tall girls, solid, DC is strength Coppermine, average is accurate. Finally some good NY/MD match ups at Lax for the cure. M&D/HerosGreen/BLC vs LI Top Guns (Rose Bracket) MDU vs YJN/Pred's (Carnation Bracket) Keep in mind, the the MDU B team is in Carnation.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #416348 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Top teams heading into the next tournaments 1. YJ babst 2. MS United East 3. M&D black 4. Hero’s Green 6-5 win over top guns this last weekend 5. LI Top Guns 6. Legacy 7. Jesters

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #416367 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Top teams heading into the next tournaments 1. YJ babst 2. MS United East 3. M&D black 4. Hero’s Green 6-5 win over top guns this last weekend 5. LI Top Guns 6. Legacy 7. Jesters I'd have to put M&D in top-2 at worst. All three of those teams (YJ, MDU and M&D) can beat each other, there's a big tier drop.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #416792 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Has any club directors announced anything about lax moving to an alignment by birth year and not grade. This is similar to what soccer does. So most girls in this age group would be 2012 and anyone born before would have to move up to the 2011 which is essentially the class moving to 7th grade this upcoming fall

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #417024 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Anyone know who coaches 2030 legacy? Where they practice? Any other info appreciated

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #417286 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Anyone know who coaches 2030 legacy? Where they practice? Any other info appreciated I think they practice in East Islip. I've always been impressed with their coaching and how they play the game. Good club that is just too far of a drive or us from out east.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #417463 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Practice in east islip 2x a week Legacy 2030 Blue coaching staff Bayport varsity girls assistant East islip boys head coach Ward Melville boys head coach Babylon girls asst. coach JMU current player

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #417885 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Anyone know who coaches Top Guns 2030. The A team seems good but always hear chirping

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #418305 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Congrats to YJ for an undefeated season. Think their defense is best on Long Island for this age group. Don’t see them slowing down. Also.. sheesh such a large team. may be movement going out over the summer. Think Top Guns and Jesters get better and everyone else stays the same. My final rankings on Long Island for this age group: 1. YJ Babst 2. Top Guns 3. Jesters 4. Legacy Big drop 5. GC Tradition 6. Team 91 7. Igloo 7. YJ wilkom 8. YJ Mullen 9. Top Guns purple

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Anonymous #418436 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Congrats to YJ for an undefeated season. Think their defense is best on Long Island for this age group. Don’t see them slowing down. Also.. sheesh such a large team. may be movement going out over the summer. Think Top Guns and Jesters get better and everyone else stays the same. My final rankings on Long Island for this age group: 1. YJ Babst 2. Top Guns 3. Jesters 4. Legacy Big drop 5. GC Tradition 6. Team 91 7. Igloo 7. YJ wilkom 8. YJ Mullen 9. Top Guns purple Tradition and 91 not far behind those teams. Also not sure YJ defense is their strength- they don’t play a lot of D cuz midfield so strong.

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #418447 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Everyone is chasing Babst but the gap will close this year and next - I think some will be surprised at where some move from and go to

Re: Girls 2030-5th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Team BOTC #418453 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Saw a lotta YJ at the camps the 2 major camps this week…