BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums MID-ATLANTIC LACROSSE MARYLAND FORUM Holdbacks

Did they? Who? Names
Or it didn’t happen.

And in fairness, every team in the league has had kids play on national teams.

Smart people know this.
Comments like this are from trolls. Or the completely clueless.
Both deserve to be ignored and have likely never played the game at a high level themselves.

EVERY TEAM HAS KIDS THAT STARTED ON F/S AND DEVELOPED TO NATIONAL TEAM ROSTERS? Please post some facts to back your claim OR just stop posting [Censored]


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I GUES IT HAPPENED.....

Yea, but do you actually play the younger kid? You sit the older, better kid during games so your younger player can develop? Cool if you do, but I highly doubt, that you'll lose games, to develop the younger player.

MM?

He's not a real HS coach.
He's a club coach.

Crab Feast tournament adds an age-matrix to their Instagram post about the tournament…
Wow.

Hypocrites

Has anyone seen an update to the previous article where they said a decision would be made in December and released in early January. Seems May to April is what is being used. Was this a one off decision by Crab Feast?

Still favors 1 year holdbacks.

Agree and honestly encourages late spring early summer bdays to hold back. Otherwise they may end up “trapped” their 9th grade year as now they have to move up an age group given they are on grade or play with 8th graders. From a recruiting standpoint they would have no choice but to move up a grade once they get to HS.

Encouraging? Who holds their kid back based off of a new age matrix for a lacrosse tournament?

Agree and honestly encourages late spring early summer bdays to hold back. Otherwise they may end up “trapped” their 9th grade year as now they have to move up an age group given they are on grade or play with 8th graders. From a recruiting standpoint they would have no choice but to move up a grade once they get to HS.

Trajectory is an important term when talking about HS development. Statistics don't always tell the truth, but they're good in a pinch.

Statistics say that for the big schools like CHC and LB, making Fresh-Soph team in 9th puts you on track to make the Varsity roster in 11th, if you don't quit. But likely you'll be on the bench for that year. Many will quit or "wash out" because boo hoo, you're not getting recruited in 10th grade if you're on JV in 10th grade. But some stick around, play a small varsity role in 11th, and not surprisingly, have a fun spring senior year playing with very little stress (college decisions made, whatever they are). Most kids who ever suit up for fresh-soph won't play a major role on varsity, that's a stastical probability. And for many kids, that's just fine. And if it's not fine, you can transfer out of the second nicest school on New Cut Road, into the nicest school on New Cut Road, as soon as they finish building it.

Final point: Puberty is not an equalizer. If your club coach is telling you that your 7th grade son is on track to "make an impact on varsity in 9th grade," then he is generally lying to you. An "elite" 14 year old generally looks weak against an "elite 17-19 year old"......as you'll see if you attend any MIAA tryouts in 4 weeks or so.

What coach is telling parents that their son is on track to make varsity in 9th grade?

Be specific.

The Wild hypotheticals are unreal around here.

Wait, you talking ‘bout college CLUB lacrosse being able to beat a D1 program?!

THIS PLACE IS OFF THE RAILS.

If you take ANYTHING on here seriously, you cray.

Boys Latin doesn’t allow holdbacks.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA. Thanks for that laugh.

2 specifically: a current Team 91 coach (remember, they "place more players in elite high schools than any club!"), and a former FCA coach who (I believe) was preaching the BK gospel at the time.

You are full of it.

BL created the holdback system with King Crab being a MAJOR part of it. Now they are on to their next experiment in the lax arms race-lax dorm dwellers.

Does anyone know what the status of the hold backs will be next year? WIll Hoco allow holdbacks?

This might as well become the new high school thread since the high school thread no longer works and BOTC doesn't seem to care about fixing it.

Everyone makes varsity at Gilman….numbers dot allow for a true JV. Gilman’s JV also doubles as their fresh/soph team. Gilman lacrosse is pathetic. The coach is cringe worthy, total incompetence!! Any freshman that enrolls makes varsity for football and lacrosse, Gilman is now a rich kid country club sports school …. golf, squash, racquetball and tennis. Only the rich kids can afford to play those sports. I did t think Gilman would ever become such an “elitist” school.

Yea whats the deal with HS thread ?/

I have reported it twice, and the admins keep suggesting the problem is on my end. Evidently they are so busy adding advertising popups and videos to the site they don't feel the need to fix it.

Still broken

Still broken, Hard to believe they cant fix it? Probably a slow learning holdback doing IT

It’s always been elitist.

What are you talking about lol. Your surprise is confusing.

1 Freshman made varsity at Gilman this year.

I laughed.

BAD COMPARISON!!!

Gilman kids have always been elitist.
They have just recently become soft too.

If any of you have 2030s needing a ride to tournaments or needing private lessons let me know, my kid can help them out. Yea yea, I know he is 6'3" and technically should be in the 17th grade by now, but do what. There isn't a 2030 that he can't blow by with his amazing swim dodge. And when he puts on the wheels he looks like a deer leaving the other kids behind.

The UMD freshman goalie showing why public school kids often struggle in big college situations- Not used to playing a hard schedule, week in and out, like the MIAA A kids.

HE IS A FRESHMAN PLAYING EVERY MINUTE OF THE GAME IN THE BIG 10!! Back off.

So what's your excuse for the kid from St Mary's?

UMD goalie is no yet ready for prime time! Maybe someday but not up to the D1 level yet!

Gilman has zero talent beyond next year. The fact only one freshmen made the varsity shows that! Unfortunately there is nothing there that would attract anyone. The administration doesn’t care and the coach offers nothing. Amazed Gilman could only find someone this bad to fo the job. Time to drop to the N conference.

I'm sorry that easily verified facts are hard for you. Ask the parents of any current 2nd year 8th grader if their elite level club coach advocated for the kid's holdback (which generally they do), and if so, did they project how much better the player would be as a 9th grade holdback (which generally, they'd say, "Oh he'll have a chance to start!").

Spend more time around grifting coaches and you'll see!