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I'm an SWB parent. The organization is fine. It isn't behind the times. Players are good enough. Coaching structure for the team is off for this year, that's really it. Teams have ups and downs. All this other talk about players, recruiting and etc is just people taking out of boredom or bad intent.

Hero's isn't really a big point team are they? When we lost they where efficient, but didn't strike me as a run and gun up tempo team. I thought that was more M&Ds style.

Not even close to true. They stress nothing except trying to win. Find the best athletes and let them play Street ball now. High school teams are solid but have a style that won’t benefit all in high school. The director sits in a chair now. The lady isn’t a great coach. The alumni were good players but are just subbers on the sideline. Coppermine and Nems are grinding away and will get more with less than sw middle school teams. The 27 coach can only win when handed talent and didn’t dominate with the 22 team.

To be fair, she dominated recruiting with them which is kinda the point.

And if you don't think Mike is going to bring in major new talent to this team over the next two summers, then you are new to MD club lacrosse.

To be fair, she dominated recruiting with them which is kinda the point.

And if you don't think Mike is going to bring in major new talent to this team over the next two summers, then you are new to MD club lacrosse.

Can you make it any more obvious you're on the Coppermine bandwagon? The top MS and younger players are at Coppermine? That's just completely false. What would Hero's, M&D, and MU have to say about that? That's hilarious.

To be fair, she dominated recruiting with them which is kinda the point.

And if you don't think Mike is going to bring in major new talent to this team over the next two summers, then you are new to MD club lacrosse.

You mean the guy sitting in a chair now ? They haven’t really brought in 24 or 25 talent to get to the top. Their 26 team is avg. 27 is not athletic in the midfield and team is just avg overall. Kayla Treanor would struggle with this group. They just aren’t that good and spots might be open because they need to replace some of it to get to top 20. No coach dominates recruiting. Good players get seen by good teams. The coach has very little influence on where they end up. Sw always has good athletes.

This was out of SW, Coppermine, and NEMS. Hero's, M&D, and MU weren't part of the thread. Try to keep up.

The bigger question is where is the "major talent" coming from they speak of? Players from M7D, Hero's or MDU are not coming to SW unless they get cut. And that means they are not major talent. Otherwise, I don't see a lot of high end talent on other lower tier teams.

Not saying SW (or any team) cannot improve. But the 27 team is never getting anywhere close to the top 2 or 3 teams.

Can you make it any more obvious you're on the Coppermine bandwagon? The top MS and younger players are at Coppermine? That's just completely false. What would Hero's, M&D, and MU have to say about that? That's hilarious.

The Coppermine bandwagon doesn't live in reality. They think their club is a top club, meanwhile their top talent will all leave for the better recruiting at the Big clubs. Don't fall for the late night infomercial sale tactics that Coppermine is pushing. The MS teams will not have the same talent come HS, book it now.

SW is desperately trying to hold on to past reputation. SW does not have a dedicated recruiting person and if they did it’s hard to get average players to the top schools all the parents want. You can stay on the sinking sw ship if you want but try to make others think they should be getting on board too.

Go away Coppermine Dad.

And Hero's is done with tryouts at this point (not to say they may not try to add, but probably done with letting girls go).

I assume you are referring to out of state kids?

This thread was entertaining because it mixed good analysis, mildly absurd hottakes and good old fashion self-aggrandizement, hidden behind keyboards. This is spiraling for really no reason, absent just trying to transfer negative energy. Ok, we get it the big 3 are mostly who we thought they are. SW parents are trying to protect the shield. Coppermine parents are establishing their relevance by virtue of comparison.

Can we get back to ngll playoffs and summer tourneys? I feel like otherwise this will make for very tense sidelines.

Hold on, googling “self-aggrandizement“

If the 27 SW team has defenders repeatedly attempting to clear by themselves without “getting rid of it” up field then they have definitely lost their edge.

If the 27 SW team has defenders repeatedly attempting to clear by themselves without “getting rid of it” up field then they have definitely lost their edge.

Can you clarify your point by example? I'll speak on it once I understand your point.
For example are you saying xnay to running the ball up the field at speed and comfortably dumping after O set is settled?
Or, are you referencing turnovers resulting from redefends and slow ball movement?

Can you clarify your point by example? I'll speak on it once I understand your point.
For example are you saying xnay to running the ball up the field at speed and comfortably dumping after O set is settled?
Or, are you referencing turnovers resulting from redefends and slow ball movement?

To be fair, having their best defender run the ball up the field like a freight train is usually more effective that other defenders throwing soft rainbow passes across the field. Their settled play D has actually improved but their clearing game is still a disaster.

These must be paid Coppermine trolls...they are on all the middle school forums disparaging other clubs.

It’s the 28 parents, absolutely the worst sports parents

Most of the turnovers are from poor stick skills and poor spaces on the clear. Way too many passes intro traffic or passes the are lobbed instead of crisp. Only one of their starting defenders ever looks to play the ball backwards and then swing it. (In fairness, I think this is sometimes done because there is no confidence that her teammates can catch the ball.

They have a couple of big, powerful defenders who have some success running through double and triple teams. It works against poor turnovers but seldom does against better teams.

Clearing the ball is their #1 issue (followed by lack of draw control), the amount of unforced turnovers per game on clears is bonkers.

Those turnovers force the already tired D and mids to redefend and give up easy goals.

Good news is it’s fixable if the girls are willing to listen. It’s not rocket science, short and efficient passes to move the ball methodically up the field. Instead they rush and just throw bad passes and turn it over. Vicious cycle

They lost a couple of really close games due simply to clears and points immediately after turnovers

Way too much time and went through all the schedules:

1 Hero's Green and M&D (8-0): Just don't see anyone upsetting them this year and they don't play eachother
3 MD United (7-1): Favorable schedule with only loss to Hero's Green. Pride is only other "tough" game
4 BLC, Pride & Skywalkers (6-2): BLC got done dirty by the schedule makers. 1 of 3 teams to get both M&D & Hero's Green (others are Next Level & Renegades). Pride loses to Hero's Green & MD United. Skywalkers gets a great schedule draw and could move up to tie for #3 if they can upset Pride - time to see if they have added enough pieces to make the step up this season.
7-11 Hero's White, Integrity, M&D Shore, Renegades & Stars (5-3/4-4): this is where it will get messy. A bunch of teams that look to be 5-3 or 4-4 and too many scenarios to predict who gets the honor of being opening round fodder for M&D and Hero's Green.
12-13 CCLax & Coppermine (3-5): Both could move into the 7-11 group, but Coppermine is such an enigma to figure out.
14 NEMS (2-6): Lost too much with other teams making improvements
15-18 FCA, MC Elite, Next Level & Rebels (1-7/0-8): tough first season in the A division.

And Hero's is done with tryouts at this point (not to say they may not try to add, but probably done with letting girls go).

And Hero's is done with tryouts at this point (not to say they may not try to add, but probably done with letting girls go).

And Hero's is done with tryouts at this point (not to say they may not try to add, but probably done with letting girls go).