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What is wrong with you?

Not my son, He is a sophomore with a guaranteed ATHLETIC scholarship that can't change, to a top school (Not Ivy) we negotiated very carefully to ensure his success! Committing to an Ivy is very risky, unless it's the right kid!

Remember a few very important points.

[1] Injury : Any type of injury could eliminate this guaranteed athletic scholarship. Academic money will not disappear as easily.

[2] Golden Tickets and Academics : Ivy League coaches will have golden tickets that allow them to walk specific players through admissions (via a "likely letter") who are on the margin. Expect that an Ivy coach will have no more than three such admission waivers available. Striving for an Ivy education is wonderful if your student-athlete can actually complete the academics. (Hint : If you are not tasting your first Advanced Placement courses as a sophomore, you are behind the curve academically.)

[3] Athletic Money : Ivy League teams do not have money for lacrosse - so the angle has to be about the academics quality.

[4] Guarantees and NLIs : Fourth and most importantly, while it might be comforting to point to your negotiations and guarantees, nothing and we mean nothing is guaranteed without a National Letter of Intent. BOTC just wants you to be very clear about what the word guarantee actually means in this context.

I must disagree with a number of your statements. It does vary by school but the school we committed to which is a top 10 program and top 40 Nationally ranked college, stated that the scholarship offered will not change from the verbal agreement. It can only go higher based on performance. SAT requirements are quite reasonable. Injury will not affect scholarship. We were assured that they committed to our son. Coaches were very firm about that. Research has also shown us that it is extremely rare for a school to rescind a verbal agreement. I could not even find one instance where it actually happened. What does happen, is kids decommit due to a variety of reasons. The only thing that could affect the agreement is questionable moral behavior (arrest, ect) Or failure to maintain reasonable GPA. Every school and kid are different in what they offer. Some people are looking for their above average (not top) kid to walk into an Ivy, that happens , but be prepared to pay big $$. We were looking for a substantial financial package. was a win-win for us, my son, and the awesome school he committed to.

Ours is a voice of experience; if you choose to disagree, we are fine with that. BOTC can only offer words of advice based on practical and actual experience.

You are correct when you say that verbal offers are rarely withdrawn. We did however want to caution you that there is ground to cover over the next two years that can occasionally alter the best laid plans.

Congratulations and good luck with your student-athlete's collegiate selection and remaining scholastic years.

Ours is a voice of experience; if you choose to disagree, we are fine with that. BOTC can only offer words of advice based on practical and actual experience.

You are correct when you say that verbal offers are rarely withdrawn. We did however want to caution you that there is ground to cover over the next two years that can occasionally alter the best laid plans.

Congratulations and good luck with your student-athlete's collegiate selection and remaining scholastic years.

We have been close to it already and have close friends that have been through it CAGE is right. I wish you well but you newbies touting firm offers early is just not accurate until you sign

You forgot to tell everyone that it cost $850 for one practice a week and 3 tournaments that cost a combined 2,000. Toury fee . Please I would be shaking your hand also. We are all idiots,

So which is it an express 2016 or manhasset 2016.

So which is it an express 2016 or manhasset 2016.

Both, however Express was responsible for getting the kid noticed. So I would say Express deserves the bulk of the credit. Of course the kid is a great player but so are alot of others. Connections matter!!

wolverines piranahs terps...... are they like 91 teams extreme orange white???

Express 2016 top lefty attack from Manhasset just committed to Duke! Well deserved!

Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !

The original post clearly states that the boy is from Manhasset. The fact is that he plays for his HS Team and for a Club Team (The Long Island Express). The original post did not attempt to deminish the fact that he played for his HS Team.

Why do the "town folk" want so badly to deminish the value of playing for express? Why the Hate?

Be happy for the boy.

I am happy for the boy. However, if your spelling is any indication of what a typical express player is capable of, he won't be able to make the grade at Duke! Diminish, not "deminish."

BTW I am a big believer in Express and the other clubs and the opportunity they create for the boys. However, there seemed to be an inference that MHS had absolutely nothing to do with his being recruited. The fact that he has been able to succeed at the club AND the high school level is what drew Duke to him. Plus having good grades at a good high school!

Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !

This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?

Plus the fact that he is a year older than the boys he competes against.

Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.

Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.

Surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!

This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?

The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School

Colgate not in same hemisphere as Duke. btw, hopefully they are starters if they are juniors at the nade...

surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!

The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School

Colgate not in same hemisphere as Duke. btw, hopefully they are starters if they are juniors at the nade...