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Due to the first "Friday Night Lights" in recent NGLL history, Old Vegas is publishing week 2 lines on Sunday night.

Game Lines

Heros - 8.5 vs. SW
M&D -17 vs. FCA
Integrity -1.5 vs. NL
Coppermine -6 vs NEMS
MDU -10 vs. CCLax
HW - 5 vs. MCE
Pride -4.5 vs. SW
Integrity +6.5 vs MDU
M&D Shore -3 vs. NL
Renegades -5 vs. FCA
Pride - 10.5 vs. Rebels
M&D Shore -4 vs. NEMS
Stars +8.5 vs BLC
BLC -13 vs. Rebels
M&D -12.5 vs. Stars


Weekly props:

M&D total goals scored: over/under 30.5
Total yellow cards MDU/Integrity: over/under 4.5
SW total goals allowed: over/under 23.5

Sorry your kid lost

The small stat guys is parent for which team?

Based on results and watching a few games. A few observations (although some are obvious)

M&D Shore may be a bit better than thought. 2-0 start despite playing less than stellar competition is still 2-0

Hero's Green appears in mid-season form

BLC needs to lean on their talented scorers. The ball control offense they employ makes it tough to come back from when down.

Pride Red 0-2. Still a top team, but that's a tough schedule to begin the season. Can't afford too many more losses if trying to make playoffs. A loss to SW would probably keep them out of playoffs

SW has a tough weekend coming up. Probably involved in both best games of the weekend. Against Hero's and Pride. SW have a few girls looking for a little revenge against their former Hero's team.

Any optimism of Renegades potentially making a playoff run is in trouble. Losing 2 games this weekend against softer teams. Plus they have games against Coppermine, Hero's and M&D. Always next year.

Shore is definitely improved, however, they probably have the quirkiest schedule in NGLL. Start off with 4 games against lower half teams and finish with 3 games against top 4 plus Skywalkers.

By the looking of things yesterday, the Skywalkers game on 4/16 could effectively be a playoff game, assuming no 4-4 teams make the top 8.

Heros Green

After all of that good work, you tell us that you are clueless and are just guessing and making stuff up with no knowledge behind it. HG has never had a backup GK.....

But I would go to Vegas with you because your guesses are spot on.....

Friday Night Lights Edition. lol. love it

Give me MDU -10 over CC Lax
SW + 8.5
Integrity - 1.5

3 team parlay

Please explain how Shore improved? They made it to semi finals of NGLL last year right? You think they are championship level now?

well Shore beat Renegades who they lost to in the fall.

That's improvement.

Stat guy doesn't understand stats. His stats are conflated to promote his kid and her friends. Stat guy is discrete about it.

More head scratching results from Coppermine. Blowout of Stars but a 1 goal loss to Hero's White.

Fall shouldn't even matter. The whole emphasis on it is laughable.

Could Coppermine success or failure depend on the refs? They, to me, are one of the more physical teams we play and I’ve seen them get 6 YCs in a game, if refs don’t call it tight, it’s a huge benefit to them.

Only works against equal talent teams. If the decide they want to play overly-physical ball against Hero's or M&D type teams, it won't do them any good. Even SW has a few physical players.

Those teams have the type of kids who can put a physical hurting on teams if that's the way it has to go. But they (unlike Coppermine) don't need to because of the skill players.

I’m picturing you lying on a couch telling your therapist about “stat guy”, seriously seek help.

A friend said Coppermine will be okay. They were a little rusty yesterday with some very correctable mistakes. They had not played a game since November. Will contend for one of the 8 playoff spots. Plus their toughest game is their last against BLC. Their biggest test will be against SW.

Half of the Pride team is out next weekend for Spring Break. It's not a real dedicated bunch. Could potentially be 0-4 and out of playoff contention two weeks in! Adjust the betting lines accordingly.

If Pride's backup can't beat Rebels, then they wouldn't have make playoffs anyway. As long as they have their draw guys and a couple of their top attacking players, they should still beat SW

Half of the Pride team is out next weekend for Spring Break. It's not a real dedicated bunch. Could potentially be 0-4 and out of playoff contention two weeks in! Adjust the betting lines accordingly.[/quote]


If Pride's backup can't beat Rebels, then they wouldn't have make playoffs anyway. As long as they have their draw guys and a couple of their top attacking players, they should still beat SW[/quote]

Thought SW was all world after reading these threads 😂😂😂

I don't think lack of skill is why some teams are physical and others aren't. Highschool lax is literally 5x times more physical, so these girls are just fine- they just need to adjust accordingly. At this stage of 27 club level, all the average and above teams have, at the very least, average skilled players at all positions. And unless kids are running 4.3s and intercepting every passes, there is no way to play good D without a moderate level of physicality. If you're going to cry about it, pray for a tight ref or put a helmet on your child.

What was the skywalkers final score? I saw them up 7 to 2 before half (and dark). The D looked physical and the refs were calling it pretty tight from what I saw. Anywlone know the M&D age group that played the 6pm game?

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If Pride's backup can't beat Rebels, then they wouldn't have make playoffs anyway. As long as they have their draw guys and a couple of their top attacking players, they should still beat SW[/quote]

Thought SW was all world after reading these threads 😂😂😂[/quote]

Even for SWB advocates, noone said or implied all world. They underperformed last year. Now they may not underperform. Don't support buffoonery by being a bufoon. Everyone wants to be optimistic for their kids. And here you are taking shots.

If Pride's backup can't beat Rebels, then they wouldn't have make playoffs anyway. As long as they have their draw guys and a couple of their top attacking players, they should still beat SW[/quote]

Thought SW was all world after reading these threads 😂😂😂[/quote]

Unless SW had half its lineup out for spring break yesterday, only beating NL by 3 doesn't exactly scream playoff team.

27s I assume

2030 red

As for age group of the 6pm game, not sure but Please don’t ask age group until NGLL has the guts to follow US lax rules and stop incentivizing bad behavior of holdbacks. Just ask grad year as that is apparently all that is needed CR to be ok with, it clearly isn’t player safety

Put a helmet on your child... which really means, we play dirty so be ready. It is across the Coppermine brand. Physical play is okay, dirty play is not. But as you can see on this forum (across all ages) the reputation has been established.

We have played Coppermine many times and completely disagree with any comment about them playing dirty. I have found their parents to be pleasant and in no way encourage dirty play. Some kids are just more aggressive and physical than others. They have their share of timid girls too. I don’t think we have any dirty teams in our Mid-Atlantic NGLL. Now NY teams that generally wears helmets do tend to be more physical and more swipes above the head.

Not original poster, but Coppermine plays dirty. They poke with the [Censored] of stick away from ball, they slash, they cross check. I like the parents, I find them for the most part pleasant but the play is above and beyond and if the refs watched closer, it would be plenty more yellow card, which I would guess they would lead the NGLL 2027 already in.


Obviously just my experience in seeing 5-7 games of theirs over the years.

i wouldn't say the SW games are going to be the best for SW. Why are those few girls on SW looking for revenge against Hero's? Are they still upset about being cut?

Clarification. By wear a helmet I was referencing the implication, based on the sensitivity I picked up, you don't like physical play. I don't condone dirty play. However, I have watched my kid play physical and heard parents whine about it, despite it not being a foul. Even girls lax has a significant amount of legal rough play. And honestly, I don't want helmets to turn lax into a combat sport, but it is an option.

Now, Ive not seen what i would consider dirty play from Coppermine. And, I'd say there are a FEW reasonable and nice Coppermine parents(who don't strike me as advocating for dirty play). Coppermine, like a few teams, has its "my kid is incredible, im incredible" parents. But so what? Don't stand near them. Or don't talk to them.

Renegade parents have consistently been unsavory, more so than any team I've ever seen.

I had no idea age and grad year were such a big deal in girls lax. It makes sense, I just had no idea.

Clarification. By wear a helmet I was referencing the implication, based on the sensitivity I picked up, you don't like physical play. I don't condone dirty play. However, I have watched my kid play physical and heard parents whine about it, despite it not being a foul. Even girls lax has a significant amount of legal rough play. And honestly, I don't want helmets to turn lax into a combat sport, but it is an option.

Now, Ive not seen what i would consider dirty play from Coppermine. And, I'd say there are a FEW reasonable and nice Coppermine parents(who don't strike me as advocating for dirty play). Coppermine, like a few teams, has its "my kid is incredible, im incredible" parents. But so what? Don't stand near them. Or don't talk to them.

Renegade parents have consistently been unsavory, more so than any team I've ever seen.

I had no idea age and grad year were such a big deal in girls lax. It makes sense, I just had no idea. Don't be daft. If you play an old team, whether by being cut, traded or other, there is going to be some energy. You know, like if you kept rubbing it in that someone's kid got cut, that parent might have "energy" towards you... and vice versa if the tables were turned. But, fortunately everyone gets to hide behind their keyboards...

SW dad here.

No one (parent or player) has bad blood, ill intent or seeking revenge against any team we are playing.

All games from this age up will be fast and physical but only parents who are living through their kids really stoke this BS of revenge. This board is wacko

The best part is neither of the hero’s girls on SWB got cut last year. This is just a jackoff that gets off on spreading rumors about 14 year old girls. I guess if that makes you sleep better at night. I think it is just pathetic.

The Real Old Vegas Lines Week 2 2027

Hero's 2027 green vs Sky Walkers 2027 Blue
Hero's -9

M&D 2027 Black vs FCA 2027 Blue
M&D -17

Integrity 2027 Green vs Next Level 2027 Blue
Integriy - 6

Coppermine 2027 Black vs NEMS 2027
Coppermine -7

Maryland United 2027 vs CCLax 2027 Black
MDU -8.5

Hero's 2027 white vs MC Elite Midnight
HW -7

PRIDE 2027 RED vs Sky Walkers 2027 Blue
Pride -5

Integrity 2027 Green vs Maryland United 2027
MDU -6

Next Level 2027 Blue vs M&D Shore 2027 Black
Shore -7

FCA 2027 Blue vs Renegades 27
Renegades -3.5

PRIDE 2027 RED vs Rebels 27
Pride -11.5

M&D Shore 2027 Black vs NEMS 2027
Shore -4.5

STARS 2027 Light BLue vs BLC 2027 Blue
BLC -8.5

BLC 2027 Blue vs Rebels 27
BLC -12

M&D 2027 Black vs STARS 2027 Light BLue
M&D -10.5

Baby needs a new pair of shoes.

Give me
SW + 9 vs Hero's
Stars +8.5 vs BLC
FCA +17 vs M&D (nobody can lose that bad at 8th grade can they?)

Love this. I've got parent friends on all these teams. I'd be more comfortable with over/unders. What do you have for us?

Lock of the Week:

BLC -8.5 over Stars

Going with the underdogs here. Careful on M&D, in NGLL (with 46 min) they dropped 22, 19, 21 in NGLL 2022. They will not take their foot off the petal.