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Heros obviously

She is a very talented player, but won't come close to starting as a freshman. Likely doesn't even make varsity. The kid is great but St. Pauls is that deep and they are smart enough not to have a freshman sit on the bench on varsity when she can get JV reps.

“Are you kidding me?” Guess private schools are the only option then for great education and top lacrosse recruitment. Not even listing great public schools all over the state. Are we only listing affluent towns as the best public schools? Joke.

BOC “private school” posters are then authority on this topic. Got it. Stay in your elitism bubble.

I disagree completely with this on so many levels. First of spsg usually takes 2-5 freshman each year depending on the team. so if that girl is really good, she has a good chance to make varsity. As for starting, very doubtful but I believe they are graduating a lot of seniors. But I really disagree with the point that it’s better to play jv than sit varsity. It isn’t about the game time, it’s about practicing regularly with some of the best players in the country on varsity. That is way more impactful than starting on jv for most girls looking to grow their game.

Are varsity teams making use of the ability to have "swing players" who are listed as varsity but also may play on the JV squad? I understand IIAM says they may use these players to help with #s on JV squads but also for player development. Not sure how I'd feel as a JV player if varsity players all of a sudden show up and take my PT, but on the other hand it's a good way for young Varsity players to get the development that comes from game experience.

Let's be honest here. The reason that many talented freshman are sitting on the bench on varsity is that they have overbearing parents who threaten to leave the school if their baby doesn't play varsity. Most coaches don't have the backbone or administration support to say no to a parent playing mid-six figures per year.

In terms of benefits of being on the varsity roster, it really depends on how the coach manages drills and reps in practice. Many coaches give very few reps to backups (I know one in particulate who has a 4:1 ratio on individual or small sided drills, which is similar to how most colleges do it) , other practice them as almost as much as starters.

Live Love Lax Brackets out

Interesting top bracket with M&D, BLC, YJ, FLG, Steps, and Jesters.

Heros in dramatically easier bracket with NEMS, Liberty, Pride, Prime Time and SW. Prime Time probably the only team who stays within single digits


I know brackets tend to be quirky here because teams can request morning or afternoon, but these seem much less balanced than normal

Are you kidding me? Roland Park, Severn, Garrison Forest, all very highly ranked for academics. Even B division schools like Park School, etc very high rated. Public schools mailed it in during Covid and have not recovered.[/quote]

Garrison is not known at all for their academics . Neither is at Paul’s

Where did you find it?

No playoffs for this tournament. So you want to play the best teams. I wouldn't want to waste time playing teams who you are gonna beat handily. This is the one tournament where it's OK to go 2-2 if you're a top team against top competition. No worries about missing playoffs

Garrison is not known at all for their academics . Neither is at Paul’s[/quote]

I would add McD, BM, and GCS to the list of very strong academic schools. SPGS and Maryvale not so much.

The website where you sign the waiver. It you click on teams, it shows the group you are in

GCS? As good as BM and McD?
No way

The original comment was most private schools aren't better academically than good public schools, so determining the top of privates not really the point.

Last free weekend until the girls last NGLL season starts. Hoping for an exciting and healthy year for everyone. Looking forward to the spreads if that person is still on here. (All for fun of course)

Old Vegas lines coming out shortly, just waiting on a few last minute looks and research. I'm thinking the gap is getting tighter amongst these girls.

Lots of games here. To be honest,Vegas doesn't have a feel for some of the new entries, so they may move these games OFF the board

Game totals

SW -4.5 vs. NEMS
MDU -3 vs Pride
Integrity -2.5 vs. Heros White
Coppermine -1.5 vs Stars
Renegages -1.5 vs. M&D Shore
Stars -3 vs. FCA
Coppermine -3 vs. Heros White
Renegades -3.5 vs. CCLax
Hero's Green -1.5 vs. BLC
M&D Shore -2.5 vs. CC Lax
Hero's Green -5.5 vs. Pride
M&D Black -14.5 vs Next Level
SW -8.5 vs. Next Level

Game Props
Total Goal Over/Under -- BLC/Heros : 15.5
Total Goals Scored -- M&D Black, SW (3 games): 49.5
M&D Black -- Goals Allowed vs. Next Level: 1.5

Season Long Props
M&D Black -- Goals Allowed: 36.5
BLC -- Total Goal Differential: 33
Next Level -- Total Goals Allowed: 95.5
M&D Shore: Total Wins: 2.5
Heros, M&D, BLC -- Combined Losses: 2.5

I would look where student athletes are committing. Many are very good academic schools. Not an elitist statement, but are many public school players committing to high end academic schools?

OLD VEGAS LINES


2027-NGLL Wk 1 Sky Walkers 2027 Blue NEMS 2027
SW -7.5

2027-NGLL Wk 1 PRIDE 2027 RED Maryland United 2027
MDU -2.5

2027-NGLL Wk 1 Integrity 2027 Green Hero's 2027 white
HW -2

2027-NGLL Wk 1 STARS 2027 Light BLue Coppermine 2027 Black
Copp-3

2027-NGLL Wk 1 M&D Shore 2027 Black Renegades 27
Renegades -2.5

2027-NGLL Wk 1 FCA 2027 Blue STARS 2027 Light BLue
Stars -4

2027-NGLL Wk 1 Coppermine 2027 Black Hero's 2027 white
Coppermine -3

2027-NGLL Wk 1 CCLax 2027 Black Renegades 27
Renegades -4

2027-NGLL Wk 1 Hero's 2027 green BLC 2027 Blue
HG -3.5

2027-NGLL Wk 1 M&D Shore 2027 Black CCLax 2027 Black
M&D Shore -4

2027-NGLL Wk 1 PRIDE 2027 RED Hero's 2027 green
HG -6.5

2027-NGLL Wk 1 M&D 2027 Black Next Level 2027 Blue
M&D -14.5

2027-NGLL Wk 1 Next Level 2027 Blue Sky Walkers 2027 Blue
SW -8


Wild how close we are on this. Some exact spreads.

Heros, M&D, BLC -- Combined Losses: 2.5

2s the mathematical min, so I'm going all in 1 of these 3 will lose to someone other than the other two.

They are great, they are the top-3 but they aren't indestructible.

The only big gap with old Vegas is the Integrity/Heros White game. Maybe Old Vegas didn't watch Heros play in the fall and doesn't know how much they lost vs. last year

I'd take the under here. M&D and BLC don't play MDU or Pride. So you are really looking at 2 games HG/MDU and HG/Pride


If it happens, it would likely be Pride on opening weekend, mainly because Heros will be playing back to back after their BLC game.

Even so, that's highly unlikely. Pride would need to win 80% of the draws (which is possible with their draw girl, just highly unlikely)

Unless MD United beats one of them....those 3 won't lose any other games outside themselves. Especially M&D and Hero's

Great stuff. TWO handicappers!

I'll take Pride +3 vs. MD United & Hero's Green -1.5 over BLC

Really Depends on the school/coach.

Princeton, Loyola, Service Academies have more Maryland Publics
Vandy, Duke, UVA, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Stanford have mostly, if not all, IAAM

Carolina has more Maryland Publics and NW & Cal only have 1 Maryland Player, both who came from a Public School

U of Maryland has a lot of Maryland Publics but 3x the IAAM kids.

and the rest of the "top" academic schools don't have a ton of Maryland kids.

Don't feel like looking up the rest of the Patriot League, but i would assume it sways private.


Baltimore Area Public |Rest of Maryland Public |IAAM|MoCo Private|School
3| 0| 1| 1|Princeton
0| 1| 3| 1|Harvard
0| 0| 1| 2|Yale
1| 1| 2| 1|Penn
0| 0| 0| 1|Cornell
1| 0| 1| 1|Columbia
0| 1| 0| 1|Brown
0| 0| 0| 2|Dartmouth
1| 0| 7| 2|Vandy
1| 0| 6| 0|Duke
0| 0| 5| 0|Virginia
0| 0| 3| 1|Notre Dame
1| 0| 0| 0|Northwestern
5| 3| 5| 0|Loyola
4| 3| 5| 0|US Naval Academy
4| 0| 1| 1|West Point
0| 0| 4| 0|Stanford
1| 0| 2| 1|Michigan
4| 0| 3| 0|North Carolina
5| 0| 16| 0|Maryland
1| 0| 0| 0|California
0| 0| 6| 0|Georgetown
0| 0| 3| 0|Southern California

The weekly lines are the best thing on this site.

Nice research.

fool between Duke, UVA, ND, there are 14 IAAM players and 1 MD public school kid?

Vegas does it's homework, its why its Vegas.

With all due respect to the girls now on BLC, there is still solid players on HW, and they did add some talent as well.

I don't think patriot league skews as private as you think. (Though private still a majority). I know that some schools have caps of private schools they can recruits. One of my son's classmates was a football recruit at a top Patriot league school who was told he could only have an offer if he did his senior year at a private school since the coach had already exhausted his number of private "slots". Haven't heard about this in lax, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Patriot league for you

Holy Cross -- no MD girls
Colgate -- no MD Girls
BU -- no MD girls
Lafayette -- 2 public, 1 IAAM A , 1 IAAM B
Bucknell -- 1 ISL, 1 public
Lehigh --- 3 IAAM A
American -- 4 iAAAM A 2 public

Boston College has 2 IAAM, 1 MoCo Private

And how much of these girls are making a career out of playing lacrosse professionally? If a girls wants it enough herself and is good enough then she can play in college whether went to public or private.

Isn't the fact that they can't make a career out of playing lacrosse kind of the point? If anything, good players might get extra money to go to a private high school that wants them (not all privates give money, but some do) and then use it as an edge to get into a college that might not otherwise accept them. If a good college is you endgame, deciding which HS is the best stepping stone for your DD makes sense.

100% accurate at every private school in Baltimore.

What high school in Baltimore costs mid six figures per year?

Carroll County has produced at least one state champion 16 years in a row, dating back to 2006. Some years multiple (Liberty and Century last season for example) Yes you read that right, for 16 straight years a state champion(s) was a Carroll County school. I am guessing you are a PG county parent?

He/she would be Moco based on the cities mentioned not PG but, I get your point...

terms of benefits of being on the varsity roster, it really depends on how the coach manages drills and reps in practice. Many coaches give very few reps to backups (I know one in particulate who has a 4:1 ratio on individual or small sided drills, which is similar to how most colleges do it) , other practice them as almost as much as starters.[/quote]

100% accurate at every private school in Baltimore.[/quote]

Top private school team drill together but the end of practice is comprised of 16-18 girls doing 7v 7’s or full scrimmages and the non-starters and girls who don’t play do not participate
Lots of girls at privates just standing around watching and “learning” from girls who Actually play

If you’re ok with that being the possibility for your kid then you’ll be fine

Impressive until you start looking at the numbers.

AACo for example has maybe 5 legit schools for lax. Most are 4A so they knock each other out.

PG and Montgomery not much in terms of lax. Frederick about same.

So how many schools does Carroll have that can contend and over how many 1A 2A 3A 4A?

No one can deny talent in Carroll, it’s there.

Top private school team drill together but the end of practice is comprised of 16-18 girls doing 7v 7’s or full scrimmages and the non-starters and girls who don’t play do not participate
Lots of girls at privates just standing around watching and “learning” from girls who Actually play

If you’re ok with that being the possibility for your kid then you’ll be fine[/quote]

And your kid is going to get valuable time on JV? Please, you're foolish to think JV practice and 15 games is going to be better for development.
That's why club is more important than high school.