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AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

We were told that no age group will have more than two teams this year and lower ages could potentially only have one.

What clubs are playing the spring league this year?

YJ Spring League

YJA
YJB
Igloo
YJ Carrante (2028 B)

NGLL
Jesters
Tradition
Legacy
LIberty
Lax On
Empire

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Untrue...My older daughter (not YJ) played last year and got the same amount of time as everyone else.

Asked anyone who played last summer. Most coaches have 14-15 field players in their roation, unless it is a blowout. Some coaches will give bench players a few minutes per game, but rarely much more. While watching the 26s last year, Maryland was the only team I saw that gave decent PT to the entire roster.

Do you really think a YJ coach will play someone from a competitive team over someone from his/her program?

Was true on top team last year.

Why aren't YJ teams doing NGLL?
Answer: Carol doesn't own it and can't profit over it.

Single handily destroys events.

One of the very few non YJ players to probably make it
what is NGLL?

Was definitely true on top 24 and 26 teams last year for field players. Goalies shared time. Core rotation for 26 Black was 5 middies, 4 D and 5 attack. rest of roster got minimal minutes in first half (though still played) of competitive games and then more minutes in [Censored] time. Very little play for bench players in playoff games.

To be fair, there was a Jesters girl who played over a YJ girl

National Girls Lacrosse League. Its a series of local league who has the national championship to coincide with final four.

Typically one of the top fields of any tourneys. A bracket will likely feature

MD Champ (likely Heros or M&D)
Eagle Stix
MadSkillz
PA Champ (probably NXT)
Upstate NY Champ (probably Aces)

Assuming Jesters wins Long Island, you will have 5 of top 7 games in the country.

American Select (or All American for that matter) are not showcases and don't claim to be. Why shouldn't best players play? No different than any high-level club event.

aside from Jesters those teams aren't very strong (from LI)

Clearly, you missed the point. I know it might come as a shock, but there are plenty of talented players who don't play for YJ! And those players might not see a field at American Select because it is tied so closely to YJ.

Aces isn’t doing it. Too many players that will be tied up with sectionals.

Are all the AS teams coached by YJ coaches only?

Yes

Just in case anyone had any ill conceived notion it wasn't a wee bit biased

THIS!! Teams play to win. The playing time you get is the playing time you get.

Completely agree. However, I would be upset if my daughter never even got a chance to impress coaches. If she isn't good enough, so be it. However, to never get a chance in something else.

If she isn't good enough, don't put her on the team! How can you charge 700 for a team that is supposedly made up of ALL elite players (so some parity is assumed) and have girls who rarely get to play? If this is the case, why would anyone pay this much money knowing their daughter might not get significant playing time? Especially at this age when coaches aren't watching anymore.

Well, this is a fundamental problem when the people picking the team are different than the people coaching the team.

However, I have no problem with this as as long as girls are given a shot. This is actually good prep for future showcases/teams where girls need to impress a coach they may not know well or are a backup and get limited reps which they need to maximize.

In terms of $$, this is where girls needs to be honest with themselves. Would you join a club team where you are one of the bottom players on the roster? Same applies here. If a girl thinks she is at the bottom of the roster, she should only accept the spot knowing she may not play much.

The positive thing about the LI team is that they are talented enough that there should be a couple of blowouts so bench players can get more PT.

If you want guaranteed playing time, sign up for a showcase instead. There are plentry of those around.

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

Yup. To be fair, the All American team is equally biased (if not more) to Jesters players. Its the reality of these all star events.

That being said, when the girls get older, these events have very little impact in recruiting. Girls who play for any of the top 4 LI clubs will have no problem getting exposure in front of the top coaches. Playing with your club, invite-only showcases, prospect days will all much bigger role in getting exposure.

These events are really only helpful for kids from non-core areas (think west coast and midwest) who don't play on top teams and have trouble getting exposure.

Coaches have already been release, just not assigned to teams.

Looks like 3 teams for 25,27,28 and 4 teams for 26s.

Much of all american for 25/26 group was YJ last year, so not biased.

Much of all american for 25/26 group was YJ last year, so not biased.
Save your money beyond the top team...not worth the $700 and Carol will be ok without it

invites out-- lets whining begin.

For reference

Black - A Team
Grey - B Team
Red -- C Team

Incorrect
Red B
Grey C

Curious if any non YJ made Black

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

2 from FLG at the minimum

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

She is going to do it with some other friends from her club who made it.

Actually, grey is b. Spoke to American select for clarification.