BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Girls 2029-6th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023

Oh yeah? Which one?

It's irrelevant who he/her daughter plays for.

Respectfully, your projections on "who should be ranked where" don't really line up with the real algorithm used for ranking and rating these teams. You should check out the USCL site where it's explained fully. The number you are most ignoring the significance of is the SCHED number.

The team "ratings" change significantly after teams reach their sixth ranked games. The number you see for 91 Roar there is not current. What is current, is taking the "sched" number for each of the competition they played (the strength of each team) and averaging it out to the number I gave you, 92.6. That's on the low end of the top 12 teams in terms of competition level. Their record in the five ranked games is also awful in comparison to the leading teams. Combine the two, and their ranking and rating will not be near what you have said. The only thing they have going for them is a high goal differential when they do win. But like I said, they're a good team. They're just doing a disservice to themselves by not playing in ranked tournaments in the fall. Urban Elite is irrelevant and will remain irrelevant unless they own a private jet. Their average competition is an 89, essentially making them equivalent to a B team. This actually matters in the rankings/ratings. Their record is good, but their frequency of play against high ranking teams makes them irrelevant. You'll see. Their rating of 97.57 will be adjusted after game six, as well- though they are meeting their expected goal differentials against competitors which is sorta noteworthy if we're going to even bother talking about a California team.

Stop it with the 91 nonsense ....not a good girls club and the team is average at best

Stop it with the 91 nonsense ....not a good girls club and the team is average at best

Stop it with the 91 nonsense ....not a good girls club and the team is average at best

Stop it with the 91 nonsense ....not a good girls club and the team is average at best

Maybe stop it w “91 is not a good girls club”. Why cuz you said so? It is a very different environment than the past when they did have issues and fell apart. The program now mirrors the boys w training and they seem to be doing ok

91 has, is, and always will be a terrible girls program - a story as old as time....now please can we talk about something else??!

Everyone knows its true just let it continue

It's actually a very silly argument. Just go take a look at the uscl rankings that were released and comb through each year 2024-2029....look at the top 10. You will see numerous years with YJ in the top 10 and yes that includes out of state Maryland teams as well . 91 has not one top10 team in any of these rankings . Why are we even having this discussion ? 91 is not a top girls program and never will be .

In all fairness, the 2029 team has a huge asterisk next to its name as it’s coached by Spallina. I believe they could absolutely be in the top 12, but would need to engage in more ranked play to achieve that.

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen...spallina doesn't know girls lacrosse . You can't " rah rah" a team to win and develop as they get older . They will lose and lose badly to the traditionally top girls program with coaches that know what they're doing . That's a fact

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen...spallina doesn't know girls lacrosse . You can't " rah rah" a team to win and develop as they get older . They will lose and lose badly to the traditionally top girls program with coaches that know what they're doing . That's a fact

Honest question, not criticism: Do you really think that girls lacrosse differs so much from boys lacrosse to the point that the coaching doesn't translate from one to the other? Sounds like a stretch to me. The man knows lacrosse. Period. I don't agree with every bit of his antics, but he knows lacrosse.

It's actually a very different game. The 8m, 7th player, draw/circle play other rules. Yes a good coach should be able to adjust but you need to know the ins and outs of the game.

91 Roar is the best 29 team on LI
No argument based simply on play over last 2 years.

Although not a 91 parent, I was curious about the rankings from all the chatter , usclub rankings don't register til you have 6 games against opponents of your age level, and if you look at 91 Roar they only have 5, but if you go by power rating, they're 96, which would place them currently at 5th in the rankings. Behind YJ, but right there, It will all adjust after first tourney of the summer, and they may be top ten, they may not, but this is one of the main reasons rankings are ridiculous in the fall and should be taken with a grain of salt until there is a larger sample size for these teams.

Although not a 91 parent, I was curious about the rankings from all the chatter , usclub rankings don't register til you have 6 games against opponents of your age level, and if you look at 91 Roar they only have 5, but if you go by power rating, they're 96, which would place them currently at 5th in the rankings. Behind YJ, but right there, It will all adjust after first tourney of the summer, and they may be top ten, they may not, but this is one of the main reasons rankings are ridiculous in the fall and should be taken with a grain of salt until there is a larger sample size for these teams.

We get it 91 parent ...rankings are ridiculous when you're not a part of them or are ranked low . By the way just so everyone is aware , USCL is also controlled by a 91 affiliate . So when/if 91 is ever ranked then you should automatically drop them 3-4 spots. Don't listen to the algorithm nonsense ....all BS

This is a silly and inappropriate allegation. You can’t accuse someone of wrongdoing before it’s happened. I’m a stats nerd and have never seen any funny business. Even if someone were to artificially inflate a rating number, it would harm a team because it would inflate their expected goal differential and require them to score higher in each game. Even if they were handicapped high for an initial rating, the proof is in the pudding when they compete and rankings adjust properly. There really is no playing with the algorithm.