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Amazing how many spots have decreased since athletes were granted an extra year because of covid. Is 2024 the last year affected ??
Seems like D1 is mostly done. Coaches talk about the last wave being presidents cup and how they want to be done by Christmas with their rosters. Seems like a few girls announced after New Years but might just be published late. I doubt much if any $ left for D1 but you may still see names going to D1 but the longer it goes the more likely that they will be practice players.
There are a ton of D2 and D3 schools that have yet to start signing players. They basically wait until after D1 is done to start committing players. Enormous amount of spots left and you will see them filling up between Feb and late summer into the fall of 2023.

Why do you break it down by division? You make it sound like all schools in each division are the same which they obviously are not. They are not the same academically and they are not the same athletically. Smart people use lacrosse to help their child find the best possible fit as well as to help them gain acceptance to the best possible academic institution and hopefully receive some financial assistance (merit, athletic, need).

Once you get outside the Top 10 - 15 Division 1 programs does it really matter what "Division" the program is? If the kid isn't going to one of the programs that always seem to be ranked in the Top 20 (most if not all of which are excellent academic schools as well) Does it really matter what division we are talking about? Not talking about a team that gets ranked once or twice every 10 years or so. Personal "fit" and quality of "academics" should be the priority, what athletic "division" a school is in really shouldn't be of concern.

If your daughter is offered a spot at some of the following she is most likely a legit top tier player but for the majority of players the following schools will not be an option.

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Notre Dame
Penn
Duke
Stanford
USC
Penn State
JMU
Michigan
Loyola

Once you start to get outside that list (and a few others) what difference does the division make? Help your daughter find the best academic, social, financial, athletic etc... fit possible.

If you are placing the "Division" as a priority you might want to reevaluate. That is not to say... you should not consider other schools that are DI, just saying that IMHO the "Division" should not be the driving factor when trying to find the best overall fit for a student athlete.

It doesn’t. And let’s be honest, all being at those teams mean lacrosse wise is another 1-4 games in the tournament. You could be on the 50th ranked team and the only difference is you probably aren’t going to play in the NCAA championship. That’s it. Oh. And the flex that your daughter plays top 10.

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https://laxnumbers.com/recruits.php

Amazing how many spots have decreased since athletes were granted an extra year because of covid. Is 2024 the last year affected ??
Seems like D1 is mostly done. Coaches talk about the last wave being presidents cup and how they want to be done by Christmas with their rosters. Seems like a few girls announced after New Years but might just be published late. I doubt much if any $ left for D1 but you may still see names going to D1 but the longer it goes the more likely that they will be practice players.
There are a ton of D2 and D3 schools that have yet to start signing players. They basically wait until after D1 is done to start committing players. Enormous amount of spots left and you will see them filling up between Feb and late summer into the fall of 2023.

Why do you break it down by division? You make it sound like all schools in each division are the same which they obviously are not. They are not the same academically and they are not the same athletically. Smart people use lacrosse to help their child find the best possible fit as well as to help them gain acceptance to the best possible academic institution and hopefully receive some financial assistance (merit, athletic, need).

Once you get outside the Top 10 - 15 Division 1 programs does it really matter what "Division" the program is? If the kid isn't going to one of the programs that always seem to be ranked in the Top 20 (most if not all of which are excellent academic schools as well) Does it really matter what division we are talking about? Not talking about a team that gets ranked once or twice every 10 years or so. Personal "fit" and quality of "academics" should be the priority, what athletic "division" a school is in really shouldn't be of concern.

If your daughter is offered a spot at some of the following she is most likely a legit top tier player but for the majority of players the following schools will not be an option.

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Notre Dame
Penn
Duke
Stanford
USC
Penn State
JMU
Michigan
Loyola

Once you start to get outside that list (and a few others) what difference does the division make? Help your daughter find the best academic, social, financial, athletic etc... fit possible.

If you are placing the "Division" as a priority you might want to reevaluate. That is not to say... you should not consider other schools that are DI, just saying that IMHO the "Division" should not be the driving factor when trying to find the best overall fit for a student athlete.

It doesn’t. And let’s be honest, all being at those teams mean lacrosse wise is another 1-4 games in the tournament. You could be on the 50th ranked team and the only difference is you probably aren’t going to play in the NCAA championship. That’s it. Oh. And the flex that your daughter plays top 10.

Yeah but if you are on the 50th ranked team (don't think they actually rank past 20 - 25) you most likely didn't have any offers from any top DI teams... There is a reason the same small group of programs are in the top 20 year in and year out... It's because they get the best players year in and year out... Although some on here like to knock DII and DIII the reality is once you go beyond the top 10 - 20 DI programs the talent level drops way off and many DII & DIII programs have just as much talent as the majority of DI programs.

As far as flex and chest pounding go, most do it until they can't. Only when reality sets in and mom and dad realize that little Charlotte will not be playing for a top tier team does it no longer matter.

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https://laxnumbers.com/recruits.php

Amazing how many spots have decreased since athletes were granted an extra year because of covid. Is 2024 the last year affected ??
Seems like D1 is mostly done. Coaches talk about the last wave being presidents cup and how they want to be done by Christmas with their rosters. Seems like a few girls announced after New Years but might just be published late. I doubt much if any $ left for D1 but you may still see names going to D1 but the longer it goes the more likely that they will be practice players.
There are a ton of D2 and D3 schools that have yet to start signing players. They basically wait until after D1 is done to start committing players. Enormous amount of spots left and you will see them filling up between Feb and late summer into the fall of 2023.

Why do you break it down by division? You make it sound like all schools in each division are the same which they obviously are not. They are not the same academically and they are not the same athletically. Smart people use lacrosse to help their child find the best possible fit as well as to help them gain acceptance to the best possible academic institution and hopefully receive some financial assistance (merit, athletic, need).

Once you get outside the Top 10 - 15 Division 1 programs does it really matter what "Division" the program is? If the kid isn't going to one of the programs that always seem to be ranked in the Top 20 (most if not all of which are excellent academic schools as well) Does it really matter what division we are talking about? Not talking about a team that gets ranked once or twice every 10 years or so. Personal "fit" and quality of "academics" should be the priority, what athletic "division" a school is in really shouldn't be of concern.

If your daughter is offered a spot at some of the following she is most likely a legit top tier player but for the majority of players the following schools will not be an option.

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Notre Dame
Penn
Duke
Stanford
USC
Penn State
JMU
Michigan
Loyola

Once you start to get outside that list (and a few others) what difference does the division make? Help your daughter find the best academic, social, financial, athletic etc... fit possible.

If you are placing the "Division" as a priority you might want to reevaluate. That is not to say... you should not consider other schools that are DI, just saying that IMHO the "Division" should not be the driving factor when trying to find the best overall fit for a student athlete.

It doesn’t. And let’s be honest, all being at those teams mean lacrosse wise is another 1-4 games in the tournament. You could be on the 50th ranked team and the only difference is you probably aren’t going to play in the NCAA championship. That’s it. Oh. And the flex that your daughter plays top 10.

Yeah but if you are on the 50th ranked team (don't think they actually rank past 20 - 25) you most likely didn't have any offers from any top DI teams... There is a reason the same small group of programs are in the top 20 year in and year out... It's because they get the best players year in and year out... Although some on here like to knock DII and DIII the reality is once you go beyond the top 10 - 20 DI programs the talent level drops way off and many DII & DIII programs have just as much talent as the majority of DI programs.

As far as flex and chest pounding go, most do it until they can't. Only when reality sets in and mom and dad realize that little Charlotte will not be playing for a top tier team does it no longer matter.


They don’t but you can get a feeling with RPI rank. Yes some D2 teams can spank some lower end D1 teams but that wasn’t my point. My point was referring to the difference in a season between 20 and 50. It’s he NCAa tournament. The same would be for ranked D2 and D3 and not.

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https://laxnumbers.com/recruits.php

Amazing how many spots have decreased since athletes were granted an extra year because of covid. Is 2024 the last year affected ??
Seems like D1 is mostly done. Coaches talk about the last wave being presidents cup and how they want to be done by Christmas with their rosters. Seems like a few girls announced after New Years but might just be published late. I doubt much if any $ left for D1 but you may still see names going to D1 but the longer it goes the more likely that they will be practice players.
There are a ton of D2 and D3 schools that have yet to start signing players. They basically wait until after D1 is done to start committing players. Enormous amount of spots left and you will see them filling up between Feb and late summer into the fall of 2023.

Why do you break it down by division? You make it sound like all schools in each division are the same which they obviously are not. They are not the same academically and they are not the same athletically. Smart people use lacrosse to help their child find the best possible fit as well as to help them gain acceptance to the best possible academic institution and hopefully receive some financial assistance (merit, athletic, need).

Once you get outside the Top 10 - 15 Division 1 programs does it really matter what "Division" the program is? If the kid isn't going to one of the programs that always seem to be ranked in the Top 20 (most if not all of which are excellent academic schools as well) Does it really matter what division we are talking about? Not talking about a team that gets ranked once or twice every 10 years or so. Personal "fit" and quality of "academics" should be the priority, what athletic "division" a school is in really shouldn't be of concern.

If your daughter is offered a spot at some of the following she is most likely a legit top tier player but for the majority of players the following schools will not be an option.

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Notre Dame
Penn
Duke
Stanford
USC
Penn State
JMU
Michigan
Loyola

Once you start to get outside that list (and a few others) what difference does the division make? Help your daughter find the best academic, social, financial, athletic etc... fit possible.

If you are placing the "Division" as a priority you might want to reevaluate. That is not to say... you should not consider other schools that are DI, just saying that IMHO the "Division" should not be the driving factor when trying to find the best overall fit for a student athlete.

It doesn’t. And let’s be honest, all being at those teams mean lacrosse wise is another 1-4 games in the tournament. You could be on the 50th ranked team and the only difference is you probably aren’t going to play in the NCAA championship. That’s it. Oh. And the flex that your daughter plays top 10.

Yeah but if you are on the 50th ranked team (don't think they actually rank past 20 - 25) you most likely didn't have any offers from any top DI teams... There is a reason the same small group of programs are in the top 20 year in and year out... It's because they get the best players year in and year out... Although some on here like to knock DII and DIII the reality is once you go beyond the top 10 - 20 DI programs the talent level drops way off and many DII & DIII programs have just as much talent as the majority of DI programs.

As far as flex and chest pounding go, most do it until they can't. Only when reality sets in and mom and dad realize that little Charlotte will not be playing for a top tier team does it no longer matter.

Final 2022 Top 50 (RPI) Same as most years with some exceptions.

1 North Carolina
2 Boston College
3 Maryland
4 Northwestern
5 Florida
6 Syracuse
7 Stony Brook
8 Loyola
9 Rutgers
10 Denver
11 Princeton
12 James Madison
13 Duke
14 Virginia
15 Jacksonville
16 Johns Hopkins
17 UConn
18 Michigan
19 Massachusetts
20 Notre Dame
21 Southern California
22 Temple
23 Ohio State
24 Yale
25 Penn State
26 Vanderbilt
27 Stanford
28 Arizona State
29 Navy
30 Saint Josephs
31 Richmond
32 Vermont
33 Fairfield
34 Mercer
35 Army West Point
36 Virginia Tech
37 Drexel
38 Davidson
39 Towson
40 Georgetown
41 UAlbany
42 Louisville
43 Colorado
44 Liberty
45 Mount St. Mary's
46 High Point
47 Penn
48 Monmouth
49 Canisius
50 Pittsburgh

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Posting this link again in an effort to save all of you from the ill-advised speculation that typically dominates these forums...

https://laxnumbers.com/recruits.php

Amazing how many spots have decreased since athletes were granted an extra year because of covid. Is 2024 the last year affected ??
Seems like D1 is mostly done. Coaches talk about the last wave being presidents cup and how they want to be done by Christmas with their rosters. Seems like a few girls announced after New Years but might just be published late. I doubt much if any $ left for D1 but you may still see names going to D1 but the longer it goes the more likely that they will be practice players.
There are a ton of D2 and D3 schools that have yet to start signing players. They basically wait until after D1 is done to start committing players. Enormous amount of spots left and you will see them filling up between Feb and late summer into the fall of 2023.

Why do you break it down by division? You make it sound like all schools in each division are the same which they obviously are not. They are not the same academically and they are not the same athletically. Smart people use lacrosse to help their child find the best possible fit as well as to help them gain acceptance to the best possible academic institution and hopefully receive some financial assistance (merit, athletic, need).

Once you get outside the Top 10 - 15 Division 1 programs does it really matter what "Division" the program is? If the kid isn't going to one of the programs that always seem to be ranked in the Top 20 (most if not all of which are excellent academic schools as well) Does it really matter what division we are talking about? Not talking about a team that gets ranked once or twice every 10 years or so. Personal "fit" and quality of "academics" should be the priority, what athletic "division" a school is in really shouldn't be of concern.

If your daughter is offered a spot at some of the following she is most likely a legit top tier player but for the majority of players the following schools will not be an option.

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Notre Dame
Penn
Duke
Stanford
USC
Penn State
JMU
Michigan
Loyola

Once you start to get outside that list (and a few others) what difference does the division make? Help your daughter find the best academic, social, financial, athletic etc... fit possible.

If you are placing the "Division" as a priority you might want to reevaluate. That is not to say... you should not consider other schools that are DI, just saying that IMHO the "Division" should not be the driving factor when trying to find the best overall fit for a student athlete.

It doesn’t. And let’s be honest, all being at those teams mean lacrosse wise is another 1-4 games in the tournament. You could be on the 50th ranked team and the only difference is you probably aren’t going to play in the NCAA championship. That’s it. Oh. And the flex that your daughter plays top 10.

Yeah but if you are on the 50th ranked team (don't think they actually rank past 20 - 25) you most likely didn't have any offers from any top DI teams... There is a reason the same small group of programs are in the top 20 year in and year out... It's because they get the best players year in and year out... Although some on here like to knock DII and DIII the reality is once you go beyond the top 10 - 20 DI programs the talent level drops way off and many DII & DIII programs have just as much talent as the majority of DI programs.

As far as flex and chest pounding go, most do it until they can't. Only when reality sets in and mom and dad realize that little Charlotte will not be playing for a top tier team does it no longer matter.

Final 2022 Top 50 (RPI) Same as most years with some exceptions.

1 North Carolina
2 Boston College
3 Maryland
4 Northwestern
5 Florida
6 Syracuse
7 Stony Brook
8 Loyola
9 Rutgers
10 Denver
11 Princeton
12 James Madison
13 Duke
14 Virginia
15 Jacksonville
16 Johns Hopkins
17 UConn
18 Michigan
19 Massachusetts
20 Notre Dame
21 Southern California
22 Temple
23 Ohio State
24 Yale
25 Penn State
26 Vanderbilt
27 Stanford
28 Arizona State
29 Navy
30 Saint Josephs
31 Richmond
32 Vermont
33 Fairfield
34 Mercer
35 Army West Point
36 Virginia Tech
37 Drexel
38 Davidson
39 Towson
40 Georgetown
41 UAlbany
42 Louisville
43 Colorado
44 Liberty
45 Mount St. Mary's
46 High Point
47 Penn
48 Monmouth
49 Canisius
50 Pittsburgh

And in relation to t he point made…..if a kid went to High Point, which is not considered top lax (the record holder of goals in a season basically not even getting any play) and a kid went to Stanford, USC, or Hopkins (speaking only about lax. Not school) the only difference was one game they played in the tournament. Not sure why some people here think there’s only top 25 or it’s terrible lax. Kids still have a ball playing in Coastal Carolina which is around 80.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

LMAO. You’re assuming the kid can get into Georgetown. If that’s the case a kid should go to only IVY leagues or top schools regardless of lax.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…


🤔Most kids can’t get into schools like Georgetown and top schools aren’t going to lower their standards to let them in because they play lax. And if it was all about school then they should just go to a school and disregard playing lax. Plenty of top schools in the country that don’t offer lax.

And it’s not about scholarship because most people won’t get a scholarship. If they are lucky they get 30% with the average much closer to 10% scholarship. And that won’t come close to the money parents paid to go to “all those meaningless tournaments” you mentioned.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…


🤔Most kids can’t get into schools like Georgetown and top schools aren’t going to lower their standards to let them in because they play lax. And if it was all about school then they should just go to a school and disregard playing lax. Plenty of top schools in the country that don’t offer lax.

And it’s not about scholarship because most people won’t get a scholarship. If they are lucky they get 30% with the average much closer to 10% scholarship. And that won’t come close to the money parents paid to go to “all those meaningless tournaments” you mentioned.

R4cv The point is that many players choose to play at a school where they will play in the NCAA tournament. Many of these players passed on going to a high academic schools for that reason. Obviously, they’re not going to pass on playing lax because they enjoy the sport and team camaraderie. Most of these top players would get at least 30 to 50% athletic and financial aid if needed.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

LMAO. You’re assuming the kid can get into Georgetown. If that’s the case a kid should go to only IVY leagues or top schools regardless of lax.

Sports get you in to schools that you could not get in otherwise. Ivies do not give athletic scholarships but schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Georgetown do.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

LMAO. You’re assuming the kid can get into Georgetown. If that’s the case a kid should go to only IVY leagues or top schools regardless of lax.

Sports get you in to schools that you could not get in otherwise. Ivies do not give athletic scholarships but schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Georgetown do.

The sports get you into schools comment doesn’t apply for certain schools. Marylands top Freshman last year had committed to Stanford her junior year but then couldn’t get in academically so she went to Maryland. Whether it happens in men’s sports I don’t know, but I know for a fact the top recruit in NJ and top 10 in the country was going to Stanford before admissions didn’t let her in. And her grades were great. Just not Stanford great.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

LMAO. You’re assuming the kid can get into Georgetown. If that’s the case a kid should go to only IVY leagues or top schools regardless of lax.

Sports get you in to schools that you could not get in otherwise. Ivies do not give athletic scholarships but schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Georgetown do.

The sports get you into schools comment doesn’t apply for certain schools. Marylands top Freshman last year had committed to Stanford her junior year but then couldn’t get in academically so she went to Maryland. Whether it happens in men’s sports I don’t know, but I know for a fact the top recruit in NJ and top 10 in the country was going to Stanford before admissions didn’t let her in. And her grades were great. Just not Stanford great.

Still need good grades but not the same as a regular student.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

LMAO. You’re assuming the kid can get into Georgetown. If that’s the case a kid should go to only IVY leagues or top schools regardless of lax.

Sports get you in to schools that you could not get in otherwise. Ivies do not give athletic scholarships but schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Georgetown do.

The sports get you into schools comment doesn’t apply for certain schools. Marylands top Freshman last year had committed to Stanford her junior year but then couldn’t get in academically so she went to Maryland. Whether it happens in men’s sports I don’t know, but I know for a fact the top recruit in NJ and top 10 in the country was going to Stanford before admissions didn’t let her in. And her grades were great. Just not Stanford great.

Still need good grades but not the same as a regular student.

The lack of knowledge and understanding regarding recruiting, athletics, differences between DI DII DIII, athletic scholarships, merit based aid, need based aid, college admissions etc... is truly astounding.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

LMAO. You’re assuming the kid can get into Georgetown. If that’s the case a kid should go to only IVY leagues or top schools regardless of lax.

Sports get you in to schools that you could not get in otherwise. Ivies do not give athletic scholarships but schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Georgetown do.

The sports get you into schools comment doesn’t apply for certain schools. Marylands top Freshman last year had committed to Stanford her junior year but then couldn’t get in academically so she went to Maryland. Whether it happens in men’s sports I don’t know, but I know for a fact the top recruit in NJ and top 10 in the country was going to Stanford before admissions didn’t let her in. And her grades were great. Just not Stanford great.

Still need good grades but not the same as a regular student.

The lack of knowledge and understanding regarding recruiting, athletics, differences between DI DII DIII, athletic scholarships, merit based aid, need based aid, college admissions etc... is truly astounding.

Obviously... Do you have any insight???

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

LMAO. You’re assuming the kid can get into Georgetown. If that’s the case a kid should go to only IVY leagues or top schools regardless of lax.

Sports get you in to schools that you could not get in otherwise. Ivies do not give athletic scholarships but schools like Stanford, Northwestern, Georgetown do.

The sports get you into schools comment doesn’t apply for certain schools. Marylands top Freshman last year had committed to Stanford her junior year but then couldn’t get in academically so she went to Maryland. Whether it happens in men’s sports I don’t know, but I know for a fact the top recruit in NJ and top 10 in the country was going to Stanford before admissions didn’t let her in. And her grades were great. Just not Stanford great.

Still need good grades but not the same as a regular student.

The lack of knowledge and understanding regarding recruiting, athletics, differences between DI DII DIII, athletic scholarships, merit based aid, need based aid, college admissions etc... is truly astounding.

Obviously... Do you have any insight???

Of course not. He / She just wants everyone to know how much of an expert they (the anonymous poster) are. Especially when it comes to recruiting D1 DII DIII need based aid , college based admissions and everything else the braggart said no one knows about. Love how they left no examples of where someone or everyone as this guy referred to, went wrong

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Forgot to add. I agree with him.

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This is typical scorned parent speak! As soon as your kid doesn’t go D1, the whole it doesn’t matter what division you play chat starts. Congrats to the girls who were able to commit to a D1 school, don’t let the negativity alter what you have accomplished.

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This is typical scorned parent speak! As soon as your kid doesn’t go D1, the whole it doesn’t matter what division you play chat starts. Congrats to the girls who were able to commit to a D1 school, don’t let the negativity alter what you have accomplished.

My daughter went top D1 but it doesnt matter !!!! She still needs to like where she is going, concentrate on her grades , make lasting friendships and HAVE FUN ! 4 years will be over in the blink of an eye and then real life starts..let all these girls go to wherever they land and appreciate the fact they can still play a sport they love for another 4-5 years and hopefully look back and appreciate it

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This is typical scorned parent speak! As soon as your kid doesn’t go D1, the whole it doesn’t matter what division you play chat starts. Congrats to the girls who were able to commit to a D1 school, don’t let the negativity alter what you have accomplished.


Yeah. I don’t agree with this. Doesn’t take much to make D1 these days. D1 college coaches will tell you there’s plenty of D2 teams that

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…


🤔Most kids can’t get into schools like Georgetown and top schools aren’t going to lower their standards to let them in because they play lax. And if it was all about school then they should just go to a school and disregard playing lax. Plenty of top schools in the country that don’t offer lax.

And it’s not about scholarship because most people won’t get a scholarship. If they are lucky they get 30% with the average much closer to 10% scholarship. And that won’t come close to the money parents paid to go to “all those meaningless tournaments” you mentioned.

R4cv The point is that many players choose to play at a school where they will play in the NCAA tournament. Many of these players passed on going to a high academic schools for that reason. Obviously, they’re not going to pass on playing lax because they enjoy the sport and team camaraderie. Most of these top players would get at least 30 to 50% athletic and financial aid if needed.
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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

I think the ones that end up at BC, UNC, will do just fine as far as a school goes and how it’s looked at academically. Plus, they will probably be part of a championship at some point in 4 years. Win , win. Great Academics and great lacrosse. Different definition of “best” I guess. The Highest academics is not always what’s best fur the kid. Lots of depressed kids at those schools.

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This is typical scorned parent speak! As soon as your kid doesn’t go D1, the whole it doesn’t matter what division you play chat starts. Congrats to the girls who were able to commit to a D1 school, don’t let the negativity alter what you have accomplished.


Yeah. I don’t agree with this. Doesn’t take much to make D1 these days. D1 college coaches will tell you there’s plenty of D2 teams that
can beat D1 teams. On the island look at Adelphi. They would smoke a team like Campbell or BU

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It’s pretty scary that some of you are actually parents to children. The fact that so many of you come on this site and bash kids is pathetic. There many good colleges and lacrosse programs above the rank of 20! There are 127 D1 womens lacrosse programs, it shows the game is growing and spreading out in this country. The need to put down a girl for choosing a program not in the top 20 is laughable. Like anything, there are strong D2/3 programs to also choose from, nobody should be put down regardless of what division or rank they are playing in. The rankings change every year, a sleeper team picks up some good recruits, and moves up, that’s how it works. Stop bashing everyone and be happy for these girls, they will play the game they love and get an education. .

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…


🤔Most kids can’t get into schools like Georgetown and top schools aren’t going to lower their standards to let them in because they play lax. And if it was all about school then they should just go to a school and disregard playing lax. Plenty of top schools in the country that don’t offer lax.

And it’s not about scholarship because most people won’t get a scholarship. If they are lucky they get 30% with the average much closer to 10% scholarship. And that won’t come close to the money parents paid to go to “all those meaningless tournaments” you mentioned.

R4cv The point is that many players choose to play at a school where they will play in the NCAA tournament. Many of these players passed on going to a high academic schools for that reason. Obviously, they’re not going to pass on playing lax because they enjoy the sport and team camaraderie. Most of these top players would get at least 30 to 50% athletic and financial aid if needed.
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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

I think the ones that end up at BC, UNC, will do just fine as far as a school goes and how it’s looked at academically. Plus, they will probably be part of a championship at some point in 4 years. Win , win. Great Academics and great lacrosse. Different definition of “best” I guess. The Highest academics is not always what’s best fur the kid. Lots of depressed kids at those schools.

BC has won exactly 1 championship in their 31 year history of playing DI lacrosse... UNC has won 3 championships in their 27 year history. Certainly not the best academic or lacrosse schools. I guess you are correct when in your mind you think "best"...

Lots of great academic schools as well as great lacrosse programs. Kids should try to find the best overall fit and enjoy the ride.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…


🤔Most kids can’t get into schools like Georgetown and top schools aren’t going to lower their standards to let them in because they play lax. And if it was all about school then they should just go to a school and disregard playing lax. Plenty of top schools in the country that don’t offer lax.

And it’s not about scholarship because most people won’t get a scholarship. If they are lucky they get 30% with the average much closer to 10% scholarship. And that won’t come close to the money parents paid to go to “all those meaningless tournaments” you mentioned.

R4cv The point is that many players choose to play at a school where they will play in the NCAA tournament. Many of these players passed on going to a high academic schools for that reason. Obviously, they’re not going to pass on playing lax because they enjoy the sport and team camaraderie. Most of these top players would get at least 30 to 50% athletic and financial aid if needed.
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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

I think the ones that end up at BC, UNC, will do just fine as far as a school goes and how it’s looked at academically. Plus, they will probably be part of a championship at some point in 4 years. Win , win. Great Academics and great lacrosse. Different definition of “best” I guess. The Highest academics is not always what’s best fur the kid. Lots of depressed kids at those schools.

BC has won exactly 1 championship in their 31 year history of playing DI lacrosse... UNC has won 3 championships in their 27 year history. Certainly not the best academic or lacrosse schools. I guess you are correct when in your mind you think "best"...

Lots of great academic schools as well as great lacrosse programs. Kids should try to find the best overall fit and enjoy the ride.


Yea, and another observation I have made. Kids with the most successful professional parents gravitate towards sending their kids to the very best academic school that has good lax that their kid can get into. For example, they choose Duke, Princeton, Stanford or Georgetown over BC, UNC, MD. Do you think they’re onto something?

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…


🤔Most kids can’t get into schools like Georgetown and top schools aren’t going to lower their standards to let them in because they play lax. And if it was all about school then they should just go to a school and disregard playing lax. Plenty of top schools in the country that don’t offer lax.

And it’s not about scholarship because most people won’t get a scholarship. If they are lucky they get 30% with the average much closer to 10% scholarship. And that won’t come close to the money parents paid to go to “all those meaningless tournaments” you mentioned.

R4cv The point is that many players choose to play at a school where they will play in the NCAA tournament. Many of these players passed on going to a high academic schools for that reason. Obviously, they’re not going to pass on playing lax because they enjoy the sport and team camaraderie. Most of these top players would get at least 30 to 50% athletic and financial aid if needed.
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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

I think the ones that end up at BC, UNC, will do just fine as far as a school goes and how it’s looked at academically. Plus, they will probably be part of a championship at some point in 4 years. Win , win. Great Academics and great lacrosse. Different definition of “best” I guess. The Highest academics is not always what’s best fur the kid. Lots of depressed kids at those schools.

BC has won exactly 1 championship in their 31 year history of playing DI lacrosse... UNC has won 3 championships in their 27 year history. Certainly not the best academic or lacrosse schools. I guess you are correct when in your mind you think "best"...

Lots of great academic schools as well as great lacrosse programs. Kids should try to find the best overall fit and enjoy the ride.


Yea, and another observation I have made. Kids with the most successful professional parents gravitate towards sending their kids to the very best academic school that has good lax that their kid can get into. For example, they choose Duke, Princeton, Stanford or Georgetown over BC, UNC, MD. Do you think they’re onto something?

Jumping in on this. As it has also been said most kids can't get into Duke, Princeton, Stanford or Georgetown. There is nothing wrong with a kid going to Penn State or Ohio State if that's where they want to go and play. As for the "most successful parents" comment, that's just ridiculous comment.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…


🤔Most kids can’t get into schools like Georgetown and top schools aren’t going to lower their standards to let them in because they play lax. And if it was all about school then they should just go to a school and disregard playing lax. Plenty of top schools in the country that don’t offer lax.

And it’s not about scholarship because most people won’t get a scholarship. If they are lucky they get 30% with the average much closer to 10% scholarship. And that won’t come close to the money parents paid to go to “all those meaningless tournaments” you mentioned.

R4cv The point is that many players choose to play at a school where they will play in the NCAA tournament. Many of these players passed on going to a high academic schools for that reason. Obviously, they’re not going to pass on playing lax because they enjoy the sport and team camaraderie. Most of these top players would get at least 30 to 50% athletic and financial aid if needed.
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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

I think the ones that end up at BC, UNC, will do just fine as far as a school goes and how it’s looked at academically. Plus, they will probably be part of a championship at some point in 4 years. Win , win. Great Academics and great lacrosse. Different definition of “best” I guess. The Highest academics is not always what’s best fur the kid. Lots of depressed kids at those schools.

BC has won exactly 1 championship in their 31 year history of playing DI lacrosse... UNC has won 3 championships in their 27 year history. Certainly not the best academic or lacrosse schools. I guess you are correct when in your mind you think "best"...

Lots of great academic schools as well as great lacrosse programs. Kids should try to find the best overall fit and enjoy the ride.

That’s ridiculous to knock BC and UNC on academics and lacrosse. They are probably the top choices if you’re trying to get the best academics and the best lacrosse you can combined at a single school. They are both ranked high as national universities and consistently one of the last few teams left standing at the end of the season.

Just be happy for all of these kids getting a chance to play the sport they love in college and stop putting them down because you think they made a bad choice. If they’re happy and proud of their accomplishments, great - good for them.

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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…


🤔Most kids can’t get into schools like Georgetown and top schools aren’t going to lower their standards to let them in because they play lax. And if it was all about school then they should just go to a school and disregard playing lax. Plenty of top schools in the country that don’t offer lax.

And it’s not about scholarship because most people won’t get a scholarship. If they are lucky they get 30% with the average much closer to 10% scholarship. And that won’t come close to the money parents paid to go to “all those meaningless tournaments” you mentioned.

R4cv The point is that many players choose to play at a school where they will play in the NCAA tournament. Many of these players passed on going to a high academic schools for that reason. Obviously, they’re not going to pass on playing lax because they enjoy the sport and team camaraderie. Most of these top players would get at least 30 to 50% athletic and financial aid if needed.
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Why would you ever play for many of those schools if you were able to get into a high academic school and get athletic money?? Let’s just take Georgetown for example. The school is ranked 40 in regards to lacrosse but academically it is in the top 12. Why would anyone possibly choose a state school over an opportunity like Georgetown… let’s remember we got into lacrosse to get into the best academic school not to play in a tournament. Did you not get your fill with all the meaningless tournaments over the past 8 years…

I think the ones that end up at BC, UNC, will do just fine as far as a school goes and how it’s looked at academically. Plus, they will probably be part of a championship at some point in 4 years. Win , win. Great Academics and great lacrosse. Different definition of “best” I guess. The Highest academics is not always what’s best fur the kid. Lots of depressed kids at those schools.

BC has won exactly 1 championship in their 31 year history of playing DI lacrosse... UNC has won 3 championships in their 27 year history. Certainly not the best academic or lacrosse schools. I guess you are correct when in your mind you think "best"...

Lots of great academic schools as well as great lacrosse programs. Kids should try to find the best overall fit and enjoy the ride.


Yea, and another observation I have made. Kids with the most successful professional parents gravitate towards sending their kids to the very best academic school that has good lax that their kid can get into. For example, they choose Duke, Princeton, Stanford or Georgetown over BC, UNC, MD. Do you think they’re onto something?

Jumping in on this. As it has also been said most kids can't get into Duke, Princeton, Stanford or Georgetown. There is nothing wrong with a kid going to Penn State or Ohio State if that's where they want to go and play. As for the "most successful parents" comment, that's just ridiculous comment.

If you got a chance to hang out at the Rutgers vs Princeton tailgate, you would know what I mean! And many schools could interchange for Rutgers/Princeton. Of course this is generally speaking

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

You are allowed to talk to coaches at an event to get to know them and get feedback on your game. Coaches just can't discuss recruiting (offers, levels of interest, etc.)

Also, not sure how much of an advantage this is. Its not like Stony Brook has a history of getting the top YJ recruits.

Also, other coaches are allowed access. Many top coaches have watched YJ practices over the years.

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

You are allowed to talk to coaches at an event to get to know them and get feedback on your game. Coaches just can't discuss recruiting (offers, levels of interest, etc.)

Also, not sure how much of an advantage this is. Its not like Stony Brook has a history of getting the top YJ recruits.

Also, other coaches are allowed access. Many top coaches have watched YJ practices over the years.


I know what coaches are allowed and not allowed. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Having a coach have non stop contact with a player is a slippery slope. Stony Brook May not have been successful in the past but have they ever had the #1 club team in the country during the recruit year and it’s coached by a top 5 NCAA coach. No they haven’t. So that’s a moot point. And it’s not a YJ comment anyway. The point that was made is that there is definitely a conflict of interest there. Whether it is for a top program like YJ or a team like Metro. It shouldn’t happen.

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You’re nuts to think if top college coaches coaching club in a recruit year doesn’t have an advantage.

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

You are allowed to talk to coaches at an event to get to know them and get feedback on your game. Coaches just can't discuss recruiting (offers, levels of interest, etc.)

Also, not sure how much of an advantage this is. Its not like Stony Brook has a history of getting the top YJ recruits.

Also, other coaches are allowed access. Many top coaches have watched YJ practices over the years.


I know what coaches are allowed and not allowed. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Having a coach have non stop contact with a player is a slippery slope. Stony Brook May not have been successful in the past but have they ever had the #1 club team in the country during the recruit year and it’s coached by a top 5 NCAA coach. No they haven’t. So that’s a moot point. And it’s not a YJ comment anyway. The point that was made is that there is definitely a conflict of interest there. Whether it is for a top program like YJ or a team like Metro. It shouldn’t happen.

It doesn’t matter if it’s a top coach or a top team. YJN, not a top team, committed someone to Pace this year. You can’t tell me there was no collusion there with the head coach during the year.

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

You are allowed to talk to coaches at an event to get to know them and get feedback on your game. Coaches just can't discuss recruiting (offers, levels of interest, etc.)

Also, not sure how much of an advantage this is. Its not like Stony Brook has a history of getting the top YJ recruits.

Also, other coaches are allowed access. Many top coaches have watched YJ practices over the years.


I know what coaches are allowed and not allowed. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Having a coach have non stop contact with a player is a slippery slope. Stony Brook May not have been successful in the past but have they ever had the #1 club team in the country during the recruit year and it’s coached by a top 5 NCAA coach. No they haven’t. So that’s a moot point. And it’s not a YJ comment anyway. The point that was made is that there is definitely a conflict of interest there. Whether it is for a top program like YJ or a team like Metro. It shouldn’t happen.

It doesn’t matter if it’s a top coach or a top team. YJN, not a top team, committed someone to Pace this year. You can’t tell me there was no collusion there with the head coach during the year.


You people are so paranoid and delusional... if you dont think the coach is scrupulous or has integrity, then dont go to their school... but your thoughts on that dont mean that they are doing anything against the rules while they coach club... these coaches have their career on the line, so why would they collude for one player and risk their job and livelihood??? also, there are other threads on here saying there should be no daddy coaches; if there are no daddy coaches, and no high school or college coaches, then who the heck do you think is going to coach these kids??? trust the process, follow your gut, but dont detest on others. Envy is a bad look.

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

You are allowed to talk to coaches at an event to get to know them and get feedback on your game. Coaches just can't discuss recruiting (offers, levels of interest, etc.)

Also, not sure how much of an advantage this is. Its not like Stony Brook has a history of getting the top YJ recruits.

Also, other coaches are allowed access. Many top coaches have watched YJ practices over the years.


I know what coaches are allowed and not allowed. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Having a coach have non stop contact with a player is a slippery slope. Stony Brook May not have been successful in the past but have they ever had the #1 club team in the country during the recruit year and it’s coached by a top 5 NCAA coach. No they haven’t. So that’s a moot point. And it’s not a YJ comment anyway. The point that was made is that there is definitely a conflict of interest there. Whether it is for a top program like YJ or a team like Metro. It shouldn’t happen.

It doesn’t matter if it’s a top coach or a top team. YJN, not a top team, committed someone to Pace this year. You can’t tell me there was no collusion there with the head coach during the year.


You people are so paranoid and delusional... if you dont think the coach is scrupulous or has integrity, then dont go to their school... but your thoughts on that dont mean that they are doing anything against the rules while they coach club... these coaches have their career on the line, so why would they collude for one player and risk their job and livelihood??? also, there are other threads on here saying there should be no daddy coaches; if there are no daddy coaches, and no high school or college coaches, then who the heck do you think is going to coach these kids??? trust the process, follow your gut, but dont detest on others. Envy is a bad look.

"Envy is a bad look." LMAO. Not one of these posts about coaches showed any "destesting" or envy towards kids. Come on, you're kidding yourself if you think lax college coaches don't bend the rules. I guess it's just coaches in college basketball and football that "collude for one player and risk their job and livelihood???" Since they are the only ones' we ever hear about getting caught.

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

My bet is the "#1" girl on YJS doesn't land at SB. She's going to join her brothers up north.

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

My bet is the "#1" girl on YJS doesn't land at SB. She's going to join her brothers up north.

Going out on a limb with that bet.

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

My bet is the "#1" girl on YJS doesn't land at SB. She's going to join her brothers up north.

And #2 through 22?

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To change the subject, 2024 weren't allowed contact with college coaches until September 1. The same goes for the 2025 this year. So how can a college coach be allowed to coach club? They have access to those kids for years. The Pace coach coached 2024s in club for YJN. But A prime #1 example would be the 2025 #1 Ranked team has Spallina. How is that allowed? JS has access to his girls where other coaches are allowed zero access. Plus there's a ton of different ethical things that would come to the phone calls from recruiting.

My bet is the "#1" girl on YJS doesn't land at SB. She's going to join her brothers up north.

Going out on a limb with that bet.
Bet #2 is he's gone as well...

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Girls who want to stay home or don't get offers they are hoping for will go to SB....girls who want to go away will do so, simple as that. SB gets the LI kids who get overlooked or under valued by the other top 10 programs or simply want to stay on LI

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