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Does anyone know how good jr lizards were this year in summer (2017) ?

yeah sure, blame the fact that the two best kids jumped on the kids themselves...cmon man...everyone on long island knows why they jumped.

What kids and why did they jump

I don't! Why did they jump? & BTW who knows if they will be the "best" on the next team they go to

If everyone knows the reason why don't you explain it for us?

Does anyone know when the Express are going to announce their 2017 "Superteam". It was around this time last year. That's all we heard about. Would be great to see how many of those kids were retained. Especially after some of the top players left the Turtles. Anyone know where they ended up? Terps? fl$? 91?

They didn't have teams

Looking for some input on the recruiting camps for this age:

National Invite 175 - This fall and next summer
3D Blue Chip - Winter - FL
Phily Freshmen - Fall
Fab Frosh - Summer in CT
Maverick Showtime - Summer
Any others worth noting?

Quite a few already , could be dropping $2,000 in 1 year for camps.

My opinion in order of importance/cache developed from speaking with a lot of the top club coaches, college coaches, and parents of older boys:

Fall: Philly Freshman Showcase, Nat'l 175, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip

Summer: Maverick Showtime, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip, Black Card (NSCLA teams only), Top 205

Try and attend as many college showcases at schools of interest as possible. Although the school invite boys individually the showcases must be open to all to be NCAA compliant

Do you recommend the indivudual college camps over the showcases or in addition?

Personally if your son has a group of schools he is targeting, the on campus prospect clinics are much more effective. Again anyone can sign up to these, but helps if you know when they are offered so you don't get shut out.

The Brine Nationals had a boat load of college coaches watching the High School teams, of course, you have to make one of the Long Island teams to attend.

There shall be no "super team" for express.

The turtle shell has fracture and precious vital fluids have been irreparably spilled as 3-4 first line players left for hopes of better experiences as a player and a person.

fl$ has failed to gain a dominant increase in quality players. They have retained many very good players.

Express lost some quality players but has the depth to replace and maintain a strong base.

91 has been flooded with talented players seeking to form a cohesive unit of national championship level experienced players. Their prospects look good in that regard.

My 2018 son just got the invite to Jake Reed 3d Blue Chip camp in January. Would love to hear thoughts from any 2017'er whose son went? Worthwhile? Did son get picked for summer camp? Thanks for any input.

Wow, you have your pulse on the top teams and know which kid went where when none of the rosters have been posted.

Because he's a 91 fruitcake that no matter what they do over there will never match what Express has. Aint nobody got time for dat!

For my son, it was a great experience. Very good position-level training from 3D combined with first showcase-type experience (4 games). For Mid-Atlantic region, good competition with many of the best players from LI, NJ, PA, etc. Also, for 8th graders, this is the only avcenue to Jake Reed which my son made. Don't do it for college exposure (none), although making Jake Reed is a plus, do it b/c it is well-run, good training, good competition, and will give your son some epxerience with showcase-type events and play against pretty good competition. However, this all has to be weighed against the expense as it isn't cheap.

Has anyone's son received an invite for Jake Reed for summer? I know Fall Jake Reed invites have already gone out and Jake's website/twitter says summer invites will be out by October 1st. Just not sure if summer invites have been sent out yet. Thoughts?

Thanks a lot for your thoughts. Really very helpful.

Yes we did. The bottom of the email states there will be no direct invites to the summer camp without going through the winter proce$$...

That is true only for the 2018s/8th graders. The older grades have 120 direct invites (60 based on performance at Jake Reed rising freshman camp out of the 120 invited/60 from Jake that are self-selected) that will go out by October. I am asking for the 2017 kids not the 2018s but thanks.

Correct as far as I have been informed by a very reliable source

Wrong again....just have good friends with kids on all the teams mentioned and have been informed as to such events.

I would have to disagree, however, with your assessment of the current status of the Express Vs 91 content. Phantom coaches (albeit good coaches) on one program Vs enthusiastic and experienced coaches in another growing program is not really an arguable point. One has become a pure money grab; the other a true learning experience for the players.

So you put down every organization less 91 then you state you have no connection to 91...I don't buy it but then again no need to. Enjoy your true learning experience this year as next year you will most likely have a different flavor in your mouth.

A couple of overrated turtle kids left for fl$. Several Express kids are getting cut and MC is recruiting some replacements. 91 is picking up possibly another Express kid. Bottom line is most kids are going to be in a good home one way or the other

Where is the put down in the above statement? If you take observations and reports by parent of the kids on those teams and read "put downs" as your interpretation; then clearly you are a very sensitive and uninformed individual prone to subjective claims.

Do your research. Then make an intelligent and informed comment.

BTW, What is it with the vast numbers of you Long Island guys and your emotional knee jerk petulant reactions to any discourse that differs from your own?

Insecurity and poor education is not a justifiable indication for rampant ignorance.

Definitely do Maverik and or Jake Reed. If you are realistic with your kids ability and have a good grasp of what level (D1, D2 or D3) he can play I recommend trying to get on campus of the schools you are interested in for their prospect camps.

Stop talking about individual kids. It is totally inappropriate. Back of the Cage should not allow this type of discussion.

BOTC has already handled the questionable posts that identified an individual player.

Where is the put down in the above statement? If you take observations and reports by parent of the kids on those teams and read "put downs" as your interpretation; then clearly you are a very sensitive and uninformed individual prone to subjective claims.

Do your research. Then make an intelligent and informed comment.

BTW, What is it with the vast numbers of you Long Island guys and your emotional knee jerk petulant reactions to any discourse that differs from your own?

Insecurity and poor education is not a justifiable indication for rampant ignorance. [/quote]

Blah, blah, blah...your eloquent use of the English language is shallow yet amusing. Great use of the Thesaurus. Like the "throw in" of you Long Island guys...deep!

I held my son out of the 3d Camp last year. I spoke with a recent D1 player who is now coaching and he said between the Travel Team he plays for and his High School Teams exposure, he would be fine and not need this type of camp.

I'm not sure if he was correct but wonder why we don't hear more opinions on this forum from coaches and past players who have real life experiences and benefit from this forum through their clinics and teams.

Blah, blah, blah...your eloquent use of the English language is shallow yet amusing. Great use of the Thesaurus. Like the "throw in" of you Long Island guys...deep! [/quote]

Thanks for the compliment. English is my first language and thankfully I do not require the use of a thesaurus. Did you have trouble spelling that; or was it necessary to run into your child's study to learn to it? Not quite sure of your "deep" connotation. Sarcasm was intended on your part yet was not very "deep" at all. Shallowness: Yes; It is the one thing to avoid while attempting to converse with the typical blue collar Long Island simple minds who truly believe lacrosse will be their child's savior into a university hoping to compensate for years of video gaming instead of studying.
Please, return to your comic books and NASCAR events ASAP and do not concern yourself with adult dialogues as you might suffer a momentary epiphany of intelligent thought processes. Eek!! Perish the thought or the extremely remote possibility!
Have a nice day living vicariously through your child.
:-)

Are the outlaws going to become a better team this year? heard they picked up some solid players

Thanks for the compliment. English is my first language and thankfully I do not require the use of a thesaurus. Did you have trouble spelling that; or was it necessary to run into your child's study to learn to it? Not quite sure of your "deep" connotation. Sarcasm was intended on your part yet was not very "deep" at all. Shallowness: Yes; It is the one thing to avoid while attempting to converse with the typical blue collar Long Island simple minds who truly believe lacrosse will be their child's savior into a university hoping to compensate for years of video gaming instead of studying.
Please, return to your comic books and NASCAR events ASAP and do not concern yourself with adult dialogues as you might suffer a momentary epiphany of intelligent thought processes. Eek!! Perish the thought or the extremely remote possibility!
Have a nice day living vicariously through your child.
:-) [/quote]

I didn't realize Oxford had lacrosse. Wow!

Can anyone confirm if Express tryouts had a big turnout yesterday? I heard not really.

over 100

They might/might not be better. Depends on how new Gladiators mesh with the entrenched Huntington crowd....I see playing time issues arising with the Huntington crew.

You should forget Jake Reed, overrated. Maverick Showtime had much more press and D1 representation this past summer. My son did both and Showtime was superior. They also gave the boys a really nice package of equiptment. You also need an invite

The 2018 has close to 200 and the 2017 was some were around 150. After you count in the late arrivals. Lot of talent in the top 40 kids or so. Looks like a lot of the same kids from Terps and Treps Black. Dropped off after that.