BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2028-7th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023

I’ve I’m accurate, according to the post on Instagram there will be 20 teams in the north Qualifier

10 from Long Island

Venom/Express

Legacy/Rush/S2S/Rebels

Igloo A/Surge/BTB/Igloo B

The Non LI teams are tough to gauge as they have to be age appropriate

Boston Blue Jays/2way/Express North

Prime time/Cavalry/91 Tristate

Albany Power/Tristate/Orange Crush/Predators


The east qualifiers is certainly lacking Md teams

There will be good competition there though with BBL and Freedom

91 Tri-state would be in the North qualifier.
Tri-State is a separate program from NJ so they would be in the East qualifier.

Last year they took roughly half the teams from each qualifier. Who are the 9 or 10 from the North that will make it?

The top 5 you listed above look like automatics - Venom, LIE, 2W, EN, and the Blue Jays based on what they've done this fall.

It's likely only 4 or 5 of these teams make it. Who's in and who's out?
Legacy/Rush/S2S/Rebels/Prime time/Cavalry/91 Tristate

Texas Nationals 2028 have almost all kids too old for WS. Their 2027 WS team did nothing because they had to play with the 2028 kids due to age ineligibility.

Madlax Capital is a joke. They lost this fall a number of games to lesser opponents and then retroactively changed their team name in those tournaments (NAL and Adrenaline Gold Cup) to "Madlax Monuments" so it wouldn't affect their summer rankings. Class act there.

Totally. That kid is huge. Good thing is he will peak early as well and you don't get better playing against younger and lesser players.

Think McCabe Millon is a double reclass actually. Think he is graduating HS at almost 20 years old.

Holy cow, such a lost take.

Agree. How bout play a real sport like football. Almost none of these lacrosse "studs" could compete at a high level in a sport that actually requires supreme athleticism.

I curious to see how 2way and EN do without their holdbacks

If 5 teams go from the North my guess would be Venom, Express, Boston, Legacy and the 5th could be between EN, 2Way, Rush, S2S, Rebels

Tristate got beat by Surge pretty handily, so that’s a bit of a stretch

Schedules will be another big variable

Last year 9 teams qualified from north. And although everyone will moan about the schedules 1 of best aspects of the qualifier is that you can lose multiple games and still play your way in. So no matter what your “schedule” you will get a pretty fair shake

«posted on a 7th grade lacrosse message board”

They have an ineligible player or 2

Both can be true. First time on here and it's totally entertaining.

What about Express? Both LI and North?

Word is Colorado Kings are coming to win the World Series after being close last year losing to Machine in the semis in OT.

Cool

Which goalie?

National teams are so lopsided. Is it age or just some teams are all in and others just in it?

One of them

Guess they won’t make the World Series again 91 wanna bees.

Did Venom lose a defender and a middie for the World Series or was that a made up story?

Made up. 100% on age

Fake news

World Series is using:
Player Authenticate

The Legacy continues….those lumberjax beat up weak teams then lose to the good ones

Big whoop. Who makes sure the kids on the field that day are legit? The problem with player auth. is they can verify on computer all they want but unless the refs on the field check the day of its useless.

Exactly. Cheaters gonna cheat.

A lot can be done to prevent cheating. In many instances opposing teams know the kids who currently are older so they wouldn’t get away with it if people know them. Authentication is a great first step. Coaches, tournament directors, ref’s can all play a part in keeping people from cheating. If you are caught cheating tournament directors can ban players, coaches and teams in future tournaments as well. There’s a ton of things that can be done, hopefully this is a first step towards age based lacrosse. Many other sports have age based sports without issue. Lacrosse can do it too.

If one player is on the field that shouldn’t be then player auth should be out of business.

If you are caught cheating then that organization loses its privilege to be in world series of lacrosse for next two years and also obviously loses its title or whatever place they finished in for the current year. That will make those think twice before cheating... let them have to tell their youngers kids on deck what they did

that sounds like a reasonable punishment/penalty, happy to hear there are strong repercussions in place

Holdbacks vs on age teams.
The holdbacks win.
Don't bother spending your time and $ on this event unless you are a holdback.

Save your $ on National teams. Most of the big clubs don’t have national teams nor do they need them. They were created for kids in states with no real good competition to play against better teams. Northeast doesn’t have that problem. If you attend one of these tournaments you will quickly see there are plenty of holdbacks and kids who just play down in grade. When some of the local teams can beat their own National team you know it’s just a waste of time and money.

This post is spot on. If you doubt it, check out the rankings for any grade. There are no national teams that are considered top teams, at any grade level. Team 91 use theirs for small markets, to give decent players the opportunity to play with other decent (not great) players. They don’t allow players from their Long Island based teams to play on the national team. Absolutely save your money.

Pretty sure there was a Team 91 Venom kid playing for JM3 National at Club Nationals

91 most certainly allows kids from LI to play on their national teams.

91 allows their L.I. Kids to play but most don’t want to which proves the point that these teams are useless.

Why would they? The fee is outrageous for 2 tournaments. And to pay holiday travel prices? Also take a look at which tournament the program entered them in these past few days. Skipped the Florida one they played in last year and went to Texas where guess who created their own Club World Championship and no one showed up?

The LI parents aren't dense. No one believes their 12yr old (14 in MD years) are being watched by college coaches.