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Ahh yes. But this is the 2029 forum and I would venture to guess they won’t be a top 5 team when the fall rankings come out. Heros, Coppermine, MDU, Eagle Stix, Aces all ahead of them. They are 3-3 this fall with wins against B level talent and loses to Eagle Stix (blow out) and two to Coppermine. They have been a disaster since losing the NGLL Championship to Heros and from what I’m hearing, coaches have zero control over this team and parents. They refuse to set expectations and roles, allowing kids to just do their thing after mom/dad complains while their better players stand and watch. Why those better kids are staying right now is mind blowing as their loyalty will not be reciprocated once M&D decides these results are unacceptable. Don’t believe me, ask the parents of an older M&D player who learned loyalty is a one way street at M&D.

Their 2030 and 2031 teams are legit too. So what’s the issue with the 2029s? It’s an outlier. Either they are being out coached, as I said, or outplayed. Or both! They have fallen over the last 1-2 years. Denying that by showing me rankings from other ages is laughable at best. Thanks for commenting though “non club affiliated” M&D coach.

Good news is they are 11/12 years old (maybe older. Lots of holdbacks which doesn’t help their argument) so they have time to make a change. Either with better players or better coaches. I can tell you this, no top player from Coppermine, Heros, or MDU is looking at that team and saying, I want to play there. And those who went there over the last 2 years are trying to find a way out because the grass wasn’t as green as they thought. Pay twice as much money for inferior coaching, less practice, and less training isn’t something most parents want at the middle school ages. You go to M&D to develop for HS/recruiting years, not regress.

Good luck! Funny how all the lax dads on here bad mouthed the Coppermine coach yet it seems their staff is getting it done.

It's fall... Some girls have soccer and other commitments. Some girls are injured. Some teams were playing with very small rosters last weekend. M&D will be fine.

Heros on the other hand, looked better than ever. Well coached, and more importantly 5 or 6 girls who are just more physically mature - bigger, stronger, faster - than other girls playing in the 2029 age group. They will be tough to stop this spring.

Making your (M&D Coach?) case already as to why Heros beats M&D this Sunday? The Heros roster is essentially UNCHANGED over the last 3 years. Why have they blown by M&D? I won't speculate but I think the answer is clear to everyone outside of the M&D program. Not to mention, when M&D played us this fall their sideline looked full so, not sure "soccer and other commitments" had anything to do with their losses.

Making your (M&D Coach?) case already as to why Heros beats M&D this Sunday? The Heros roster is essentially UNCHANGED over the last 3 years. Why have they blown by M&D? I won't speculate but I think the answer is clear to everyone outside of the M&D program. Not to mention, when M&D played us this fall their sideline looked full so, not sure "soccer and other commitments" had anything to do with their losses.

Seriously, are you going to be okay?

Coppermine parents getting way too animated over middle school lacrosse? Who would have ever thought?

You must have visited the 2028 forum as well 😂

That would make sense since, especially since both 29 and 28 teams continue to win.

Tomorrow's Mid Atlantic games got canceled. Sunday teams will play 2 games and then a playoff and potential Championship.

Schedules:

All Teams Game 1 - 7:30AM
All Teams Game 2 - 9:45AM

Heros vs. Team91
Heros vs M&D

MDU vs Pride
MDU vs Renegades

M&D vs Renegades
M&D vs Heros

Coppermine decided to sit this one out which is a surprise given the field. They could have quieted the doubters on here

Two teams come out of the pool play and by the looks of the schedules, it would be surprising if it isn't MDU (who has an incredibly generous schedule) and Heros. With Heros winning the championship.

The best game should be the 9:45 game between Heros and M&D. Essentially being the 2029 Championship game as the winner most likely wins it all and the lost goes home.

Agreed that Heros is the best. Don't agree with M&D at the next best. MDU & Coppermine are right there with M&D if not better.

Eagles Stix 29 is right there with those teams.

Agreed, but we were talking about the 2029 class in the mid Atlantic

With the new proposed legislation to change grade-based clubs to aged-based clubs, which club gets impacted the most? Do any? I've heard that parents are sweating bullets on the boys' side.

With the new proposed legislation to change grade-based clubs to aged-based clubs, which club gets impacted the most? Do any? I've heard that parents are sweating bullets on the boys' side.

What date will they use for the Age cutoff? I'd assume 10/1 to align with how School grades are determined.

Effective Immediately for the Summer of 2023:

* September 1st to September 1st is the club season
* Players are to Play in the class they are currently in
* No player can play down in the summertime

Effective for 2023 Fall / 2024 Spring and Summer (Not Finalized)

* Age Verification through an online portal to upload DOB and Report Card
* Age Window for each class that is 16-18 months - TBD
- September 1st to December 1st - Vast Majority in favor
- September 1st to February 1st
- Birth Year with a window like hockey

This post is misleading. If you read the whole article you see there’s a lot of steps that have to be taken for this to become the norm in youth lacrosse. As they say, there’s a chicken or the egg situation where either clubs or tournaments have to lead the way. If tournaments go age based they run the risk of fewer teams participating if clubs aren’t aligned this way. If clubs go first they run the risk of having less competitive teams than those who don’t. Seems like it’s still a ways off based on article.

This post is misleading. If you read the whole article you see there’s a lot of steps that have to be taken for this to become the norm in youth lacrosse. As they say, there’s a chicken or the egg situation where either clubs or tournaments have to lead the way. If tournaments go age based they run the risk of fewer teams participating if clubs aren’t aligned this way. If clubs go first they run the risk of having less competitive teams than those who don’t. Seems like it’s still a ways off based on article.

M&D holdback parents cheering on this post as they try to maintain that competitive advantage in middle school lacrosse.

This is going to happen much quicker then most people may think.

I know of one club already going to lead the way come July tryouts.

24 #1 in the country last year
25 # 3
26 #1
27 #1
28 #2

I think the organization should fold. Seems like they're struggling

And that's a wrap for the fall season. Does anyone look to make moves based on their fall results?

Is there a reason only Coppermine makes changes midseason?

My only guess is they are trying to get to the top at all cost. I know of several parents who were blind sided last summer when kids showed up and played over their kid who was on the team all year. Then when those kids decided to leave (can't blame them) and go to another club after summer tryouts, they were told if they don't accept the Coppermine offer they will be removed from the roster before the last summer tournament. Club is cut throat but most clubs have the decency to wait till summer is over to make roster changes. Coppermine seems to be willing to add and delete at any time.

And that's a wrap for the fall season. Does anyone look to make moves based on their fall results?

All true. That last summer tourney is awkward for many teams, though, as it often occurs after tryouts and girls are cut. That being said, why girls and families still play for Mr Baldie and fired RPCS AD is beyond me. In any year, this could be your girl sitting when a new player shows up mid-season.

Coppermine is the only club that ever adds kids midseason. So not sure you will see much movement from the top clubs in the mid-atlantic.

lol - lots of salty parents. Coppermine added 1 girl in season last year. The rest of the so-called facts are untrue.

Nobody cares about Coppermine trying to compete with the big clubs. As a matter of fact, I can tell you, the bigger clubs don't even consider them in the same league. Club lacrosse eventually is about recruiting and being on Coppermine is not the same as Heros, M&D, LIYJ, Aces, etc. So no we aren't salty because no one outside your little club really pays attention to Coppermine. It just another game on our schedule...