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Top tier Athletes/lacrosse Players with average grades will have a ton of options at many great schools several of which are among the best lacrosse programs in the country.

Oh brother, I actually feel bad for people with such misconceptions. If a college coach doesn't offer a player a spot it is because the coach believes that other players are stronger and will help their program. I hope that you are not passing your attitude on to your children.

Grades Matter , period.

No, she was not allowed to vote. And you if you know anything about the girls who made it, would know they deserved it. Was a very well run tryout and every girl who made those teams did so due to their play at the tryout. It’s not that hard to count goals, assists, saves, gbs, and draw controls. The girls with the stats made the team. Nice to see an event that was not ruined by politics

Wiener YJ 24 top team has 14 commits already. With many more to come soon.
BC
Duke
Georgetown
Loyola
Navy
North Carolina
North Carolina
Pitt
Princeton
Quinnipiac
USF
Virginia
Virginia
Yale

Did anyone say that grades do not matter?

Did anyone say that grades do not matter?

Yes

You’re flat out wrong there, but it’s ok, the world needs ppl like u.

ASU-how many great recruits in last few years?
Sony brook-everyone says this is a “commuter school” with “lot of LI girls”
NU-are you aware how quickly they went from not existing to champs? Repeated how many times?
Fl-how many bad sessions has fl had in early years?
BC-didn’t things change with AWW arrival?
I detest typing but I can go on and on.
Underscoring my point is that every player junior up was recruited in an era when even 8th graders were recruited! You’re saying finding and having boyfriends after being recruited had no effect on their play years later? I disagree. NO WAY there was an accurate, statistically significant relationship between 8th grade skills and college skills! Also, mentioned above, with generally only 3 scouts/team, most girls are missed. Any iwlca summer event has ~350-450 teams, MAYBE 200 coaches from all levels at best, most( the coercive pool of) coaches are at just a couple dozen games max/4 games team = extremely few girls even seen. Plus the popular clubs with deep historical long connections with codes mean coaches see the same teams year after year.
Mid to high level d1 coaches, by time they’re coaching,
Have TWENTY-PLUS years playing watching and coaching lax, so, sorry ( if you’re a) bro, It’s as you say, “x’s and ohs”.
Again, see my first sentence.

You’re flat out wrong there, but it’s ok, the world needs ppl like u.

ASU-how many great recruits in last few years?
Sony brook-everyone says this is a “commuter school” with “lot of LI girls”
NU-are you aware how quickly they went from not existing to champs? Repeated how many times?
Fl-how many bad sessions has fl had in early years?
BC-didn’t things change with AWW arrival?
I detest typing but I can go on and on.
Underscoring my point is that every player junior up was recruited in an era when even 8th graders were recruited! You’re saying finding and having boyfriends after being recruited had no effect on their play years later? I disagree. NO WAY there was an accurate, statistically significant relationship between 8th grade skills and college skills! Also, mentioned above, with generally only 3 scouts/team, most girls are missed. Any iwlca summer event has ~350-450 teams, MAYBE 200 coaches from all levels at best, most( the coercive pool of) coaches are at just a couple dozen games max/4 games team = extremely few girls even seen. Plus the popular clubs with deep historical long connections with codes mean coaches see the same teams year after year.
Mid to high level d1 coaches, by time they’re coaching,
Have TWENTY-PLUS years playing watching and coaching lax, so, sorry ( if you’re a) bro, It’s as you say, “x’s and ohs”.
Again, see my first sentence.

Are you trying to respond to a specific post?

The above is a long winded incoherent rant, complete gibberish.

There has not been a single recent post that said grades do not matter.

Feel like you almost have to throw the last two years out as the teams with the most success were loaded with transfers mostly grad transfers before crushing schools like Stanford and Notre Dame for lack of success. Their administration was not going to allow them to reload with 5th years like UNC, Boston College and others did.

Add John Hopkins. That makes 15

Yes someone responded average grades get you a ton of options to d1. Which is not what I asked. We were talking too 10. Even top 20. I am gonna say grades matter and if your daughter isn’t a star on the field with a high gpa, a/p or honors, I bet is looked over. Coaches don’t want to deal with the headache of girls who need remodel/struggling. Move on to someone who can manage athletics and school work.

Looks like aprox 40 - 50 Long Island girls committed to DI programs so far with 15 - 20 headed to programs that usually finish in the Top 20. Congrats!

Does Elevate still exist or did they fold?

Please learn how to respond to a post so that the rest of us can follow the discussion.

Also, please work on your reading comprehension.

There were no posts that stated "Grades do not matter". There have been no post that state "average grades get you a ton of options to d1".

Below is the post that I assume you are responding to:

"Top tier Athletes/lacrosse Players with average grades will have a ton of options at many great schools several of which are among the best lacrosse programs in the country."

The post did not say that "average grades get you a ton of options to DI". The post indicated that Top Tier Athletes/Lacrosse Players with average grades will have a ton of options to many great schools (which they will). Several of those schools are also among the best lacrosse schools in the country.

"Top Tier Athletes/Lacrosse Players", the athletes who are identified as the best by the coaches at schools like Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern, Syracuse etc... will have opportunities at many great schools even if they have average grades. Not saying they will have opportunities at places like Princeton, Penn, Stanford, Duke, Hopkins etc... but there are many great schools that have the ability to bring in student athletes with "average grades" if they are considered by the coach to be one of their top recruits.

If you have the grades, and lax talent, and want to play good to great lacrosse, I would think you would choose Northwestern, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Yale, Hopkins, Duke. It’s a “no brainer”!! And you will have a degree that will open many doors. If not, it’s the pursuit of a dream that probably won’t happen. Comes down to risk/benefit

You’re the one that needs to read a post and help with reading. I feel sorry for your daughter

Did anyone ask about YJ Weimar?

15 so far. That is amazing.

Check out the commits and the quality schools the Liberty girls and Legacy girls are committed to! LI is killing it in the recruiting! Great schools, doors were definitely opened by the sport.

So players don’t need to be on the mighty YJ Bee teams if you live on LI. Probably better off being on one of the A teams on those two clubs

Anyone listen to the LILJ (long island lacrosse journal) podcast? They had an episode recently where they talked about recruiting and the best LI players in their opinion. They have watched alot of these girls for years and they're pretty spot on in their evaluations. It's a good listen. Basically they were all super high on UNC's 2024 class. Lot of love for YJ 2024 attacker going to UNC and Floyd girl going to Maryland.

It's about the player, not the club or where the player is from.

What great schools did Liberty girls commit to? Somebody on here keeps pumping them up

Imagine that... being high on girls going to UNC and Maryland.

Top academic and if you can get money even better. That’s the top choice in my opinion. No one cares about championships. Only the coaches and all the other people who make money off of it. And of course, the parents who lived to the kids.

Liberty commits so far going to Yale (goalie), Duke (defender), USC (attacker), ASU (mid), and Columbia (mid).

The person pumping up liberty is probably an owner because the younger teams are folding. Heard a rumor jesters is buying them.

I know. I can't believe it. Always thinking outside the box that LILJ

And they weren’t even one of the top 5 in the country! LI weak

Duke. Columbia, USC, Harvard, Yale, Colgate , ASU, Binghamton, Ohio State. Some pretty great schools there.

A quick perusal of their Instagram shows: Harvard, Colgate, Ohio State, USC, Yale, Columbia, and Duke among others.

I hope this is not true. Jesters already had 4 teams in certain age group. They couldn't possibly focus on the kids. With Elevate falling off the cliff, we need some good competition clubs in Nassau

Is this just a ploy to get jesters on the top of the discussion? Things have been kind of slow for them lately so maybe somebody looking for some attention.

I think the Liberty 24s are doing much better than the Jesters for recruiting?

According to who? Ask the top 3 college coaches in the country doing the recruiting of 24s what they think. That’s all that really matters. I think the LI girls were very high on their list and not weak at all. So, go back to your MD thread

Lol, sorry LI dad. You have a lot to learn!