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OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.
Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????
Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore. Again, what are you basing this on? MDU had the same number of teams 28 and younger in the semi-finals and finals as Coppermine. Coppermine has one great team (28) and 2 particularly strong teams (27 & 29) at younger years. But as many people have pointed out in the past, having strong young teams isn't necessarily predictive of success at older ages for a number of reasons. I don't see any solid logic to crown Coppermine future "top 3" over other clubs. And it's not because they have access to fields - most teams have access to fields. I don’t see a huge gap between 3 and 4. Put MDU at 4 and Coppermine at 4 if that makes you happy. My point is more about Skywalkers. MDU has had past success and will continue to do so. Coppermine has not had great teams in the past, but is likely to capture that Skywalkers/Baltimore talent moving forward to compete with M&D for the same players. I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently. " I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently" Talk about flawed logic. Why not apply that to Crush vs MDU? Yes, an area as big as "Baltimore" and with a population density many times greater than Anne Arundel County, you are going to find more lacrosse talent. None of that means Coppermine is "better" than MDU. Does this same logic apply with Severna Park and Broadneck considered lesser than say Delaney or Loch Raven HS? Is St. Mary's lesser than John Carroll due to this logic as well? " I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently" What an stunad. Coppermine will fade as always in high school. If the top players stay at coppermine and MDU, there is no reason that they would fade away. That is the whole point of the recent conversations. MDU area top teams at 28s, but not typically top teams in HS. Will they stay together and build the program or will their top players leave and the high school ranks for 28s will trend the way of years past with M&D, Heros, and Skywalkers being at the top. For reference since everyone loves numbers. UA 150 (the #1 invite only showcase inthe country for 24s and 25s) released rosters by club last week. Here are the breakouts by club. About 400 girls in total across the country. To be fair, Robinson Sports co-runs this event which explains why so many M&D girls. That said, its pretty directions round talent levels. Sky Walkers 28 M&D 31 Hero's 12 NEMS 12 MDU 3 Capital 11 Pride 5 Integrity 4 TLC 3 Coppermine 3 MC Elite 2 CCLax 2 Outside DMV Yellow Jackets 17 STEPS 10 Top Guns 13 Team 180 12 Florida Select 11 HHH 8
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2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable
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Final Power Rankings:
#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7 lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on. By a goal....I could see either being at #2.
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2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games?
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Final Power Rankings:
#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7 Really top heavy. Hopefully MD teams can perform well against the out of state teams. I'll be interest to see how FCA, Pride, Crush do. FCA is in the same group as 10-12, they shouldn't be 6. Pride, Hoco and Next Level are all higher/better.
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Are we to really believe this is the downfall of Skywalkers? I really don’t see that happening!
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Is it the coaching or the lack of talent on the team? ( I am truly asking that question because I don’t know). What teams are you considering? We are also looking. I heard the 28 coach left and looking at their 27 team hasn’t gotten better. We are most likely going to try out for Coppermine. I made sure to pay attention to the parents and besides the 1 or 2 people on here that have a grudge, the parents seemed very nice. Team seems to be coached well and Coppermine offers a lot when it comes to fields, winter space. Lastly my daughter knows a few girls on that team and she likes them. I want my daughter to be pushed and want to get better each day. Which coach left? 2028/29 Blue Coaches: Kathy Liotta & Jordan Sdanowich & Rayna Deltuva
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2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games? They still are the champs, so how do they not deserve the # 1? M&D and Coppermine separated themselves as the top 2.
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2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games? They still are the champs, so how do they not deserve the # 1? M&D and Coppermine separated themselves as the top 2. interchangeable, meaning they are just as likely to lose to one of the other 2. They are NGLL Champs.
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2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games? They still are the champs, so how do they not deserve the # 1? M&D and Coppermine separated themselves as the top 2. interchangeable, meaning they are just as likely to lose to one of the other 2. They are NGLL Champs. Guess what, they didn't lose though, so they go to # 1, that's how things work when you win the Championship and the Runner Up goes to # 2.
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It seems strange to me when people try to create their own interpretations about which teams are the best for any age group, especially for the 2028 age group since this is the principal group in this thread. When comparing teams that play in the same league, i.e., NGLL mid-Atlantic, the logical method is to use the final standings leading to the NGLL National tournament. Every other method reflects more on the wishes of the commentor and not what is real.
Likewise, results of any tournament of a league, i.e., NGLL, should form the basis of deciding any ranking of participating teams in the tournament.
The only time someone's personal prioritization makes any sense is when the commentor is comparing teams that have not played each other or were not represented in the tournament. For example, someone could logically argue that Coppermine was better than any team in the NGLL national tournament except for Eagle Stix, Aces, and M&D. (They may or may not be right, but it is strictly a matter of opinion.) It would be wishful thinking to rank Coppermine ahead of the team (M&D) that defeated it to get to the NGLL national tournament or to rank Coppermine higher than the two teams that defeated M&D to reach the NGLL finals.
That is my opinion - right or wrong!
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It seems strange to me when people try to create their own interpretations about which teams are the best for any age group, especially for the 2028 age group since this is the principal group in this thread. When comparing teams that play in the same league, i.e., NGLL mid-Atlantic, the logical method is to use the final standings leading to the NGLL National tournament. Every other method reflects more on the wishes of the commentor and not what is real.
Likewise, results of any tournament of a league, i.e., NGLL, should form the basis of deciding any ranking of participating teams in the tournament.
The only time someone's personal prioritization makes any sense is when the commentor is comparing teams that have not played each other or were not represented in the tournament. For example, someone could logically argue that Coppermine was better than any team in the NGLL national tournament except for Eagle Stix, Aces, and M&D. (They may or may not be right, but it is strictly a matter of opinion.) It would be wishful thinking to rank Coppermine ahead of the team (M&D) that defeated it to get to the NGLL national tournament or to rank Coppermine higher than the two teams that defeated M&D together reach the NGLL finals.
That is my opinion - right or wrong! Good news....we can move on from the NGLL conversation, because they get their 1st cracknat eachother today at impulse
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2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games? They still are the champs, so how do they not deserve the # 1? M&D and Coppermine separated themselves as the top 2. Well hero’s loss today at lax by the sea probably knocks them down to 4th. (Albeit in a 25 min playoff game)
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It seems strange to me when people try to create their own interpretations about which teams are the best for any age group, especially for the 2028 age group since this is the principal group in this thread. When comparing teams that play in the same league, i.e., NGLL mid-Atlantic, the logical method is to use the final standings leading to the NGLL National tournament. Every other method reflects more on the wishes of the commentor and not what is real.
Likewise, results of any tournament of a league, i.e., NGLL, should form the basis of deciding any ranking of participating teams in the tournament.
The only time someone's personal prioritization makes any sense is when the commentor is comparing teams that have not played each other or were not represented in the tournament. For example, someone could logically argue that Coppermine was better than any team in the NGLL national tournament except for Eagle Stix, Aces, and M&D. (They may or may not be right, but it is strictly a matter of opinion.) It would be wishful thinking to rank Coppermine ahead of the team (M&D) that defeated it to get to the NGLL national tournament or to rank Coppermine higher than the two teams that defeated M&D together reach the NGLL finals.
That is my opinion - right or wrong! Good news....we can move on from the NGLL conversation, because they get their 1st cracknat eachother today at impulse NGLL. Lax for the cure Mid Atlantic. The only 3 that the competition means something right now. The rest are playdays and should be used for development. Stop with the bs rankings from Tom IAmInsecure and Harry that has a kid playing.
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And M&D loss to crush probably knocks them to 5th right? This was the point of the post that the top 4 or 5 teams are very competitive in a very good age group.
Just enjoy the ride!
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And M&D loss to crush probably knocks them to 5th right? This was the point of the post that the top 4 or 5 teams are very competitive in a very good age group.
Just enjoy the ride! Agree! Not much of a goal differential between the 4 clubs.
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Summer Genesis Origins Buzzy Ouchies Bracket. One team definitely does not belong:
Aces Elite
Crush
Eagle Stix
Legacy LI
MD United
NEMS
Coppermine
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Summer Genesis Origins Buzzy Ouchies Bracket. One team definitely does not belong:
Aces Elite
Crush
Eagle Stix
Legacy LI
MD United
NEMS
Coppermine I count two that don’t belong — NEMS and Legacy
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Live Love Lax predictions? Looks like most of NGLL A is playing in Live Love Lax this weekend.
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Live Love Lax predictions? Looks like most of NGLL A is playing in Live Love Lax this weekend. No playoffs No t shirts No college recruiting. Just lots of parents thinking these games mean more than just fun and learning for the girls.
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Live Love Lax predictions? Looks like most of NGLL A is playing in Live Love Lax this weekend. No playoffs No t shirts No college recruiting. Just lots of parents thinking these games mean more than just fun and learning for the girls. Yeah, seems difficult to make predictions knowing that many teams use these showcases as opportunities for development, where all girls on roster get plenty of PT.
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Regardless that’s gonna be an entertaining bracket to watch.
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Regardless that’s gonna be an entertaining bracket to watch. For the most part...really depends on the match ups.
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Final Power Rankings:
#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7 lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on. By a goal....I could see either being at #2. Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday.
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Final Power Rankings:
#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7 lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on. By a goal....I could see either being at #2. Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday. 6-5
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Final Power Rankings:
#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7 lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on. By a goal....I could see either being at #2. Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday. 6-5 But I thought MDU was better than Coppermine? That aged well.
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Final Power Rankings:
#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7 lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on. By a goal....I could see either being at #2. Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday. 6-5 Are we ranking based on NGLL season and playoffs or continuing with tournament results ? M&D lost to Crush 8-5 while MDU and Coppermine beat Crush 6-5 and 8-6 respectively. Does this mean M&D doesn't deserve #1 ? M&D beat Coppermine in NGLL Championship and deserves all the accolades and #1 Ranking as did Coppermine in the previous year.
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Final Power Rankings:
#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7 lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on. By a goal....I could see either being at #2. Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday. 6-5 But I thought MDU was better than Coppermine? That aged well. As said, they are pretty all close together. Yes, losing twice by a single goal each time, can't really say one is better or worse right?
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It was 6-5, were you there or do you have trouble reading a red and blue numbered sign?
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Final Power Rankings:
#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7 lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on. By a goal....I could see either being at #2. Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday. 6-5 Are we ranking based on NGLL season and playoffs or continuing with tournament results ? M&D lost to Crush 8-5 while MDU and Coppermine beat Crush 6-5 and 8-6 respectively. Does this mean M&D doesn't deserve #1 ? M&D beat Coppermine in NGLL Championship and deserves all the accolades and #1 Ranking as did Coppermine in the previous year. Again, they are all basically even.
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Who cares? It was a showcase. As has been pointed out, many teams play for development, not to win.
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Not sure why I keep coming back here, its like a car crash.
There are so many talented girls in the area that play for different clubs.
Who's the best, what's our ranking, showcase vs NGLL...just enjoy the atmosphere of competitive lacrosse in Maryland!
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Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D
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Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D Yes. They have soccer conflicts.
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Coppermine is ranked #1 based on the updated USClub rankings. Crazy since they didn't win NGLL. The rankings are a bit flawed as they give huge points for blowouts, regardless of competition. If they play in weak divisions, they will likely maintain, though Lax for Cure has only one playoff bracket so they would be forced to meet top teams.
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Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D Looks like Coppermine is in the top Division for Live Love Lax, were in top Division for Impulse, didn’t get into Lax for the Cure and Mid-Atlantic hasn’t been scheduled yet.
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Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D And Maryland United. And Heros. And maybe Yellow Jackets.
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Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D All you people make me sick! Give props to all the teams in MD. They all work hard and fight for the top spot. The problem is...you parents that get on here and talk trash about other people's kids, clubs and schedules without any real knowledge of the situation. Anonymity allows people to behave terribly on this site.
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