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Jealous because he uses his money to improve his son, while you just sit on the hand-me-down couch your mommy gave you and drink cheap beer and whine to all the other losers.

I actually have not heard of any holdbacks on LI. I'm not saying that there are not any, I've just never heard of it. On one of my kids' teams, there's one kid born in Sept and one in Late August, and those are the oldest on the teams. The age cutoff for grades (December 1) I think is different from other areas as well.

And to be clear, the 2 "older" kids are in the same grade as everyone else.

That’s what happens when they get held back…

Ah. Sorry I was under the impression that holdback meant a full year older (rather than just a few months) or that kids were in different grades. Is that not right?

Funny. You are the know it all guy. Nobody can make an an observation without being this low class lost. Moving on, yes the PG years allows a player to look like a stud playing younger players. These type schools are part of the whole holdback problem.

Oh, so you are the only ‘know it all guy.’ LoL
You have not only made a childish Logical Error, which you do not have the brain capacity to comprehend, but your massacre of English grammar shows your lack of basic language and communication skills.
Moving on …there are parents who actually use their resources to improve their children; now go back to your old couch ‘Jealous dad’ and have another beer.

As a HS club coach I prefer holdbacks to non holdbacks. The extra year is the difference between winning and losing in Club and their HS team. For you that dont like it, well that's your issue as majority of coaches want the older players.

holdback dads telling our kids to hit the wall to compete. How about your kid stays in his grade and works harder.

#bantheholdbacks

This... Is what's wrong with the sport of lacrosse. Way to go.... Coach 😂

Sorry your son cant compete on grade. Get with the program. Maybe have him try harder

Thanks for your comment-your exposure is what we always knew to be true. You like holdbacks so you can beat younger players who are still developing physically & mentally. Congrats. If you are holding your son back for sports only, why?

Doubt this is a coach- As a coach, I want players that can play and compete- regardless of color, national origin, and yes AGE- Age is a number that tells me NOTHING. I have seen too many holdbacks that end up being slightly larger, but a pain in the rear, immature and bad fundamentals, that end up crumbling on the sideline because they don't know how to face adversity when they face kids their own size or skill- this holdback advantage starts to even out the deeper you get into HS.

In fact, two equal players or even "close", who are say 1-1.5 years apart, I will take the younger player, as he has more room to grow (and I am not talking physically).

My son is not a holdback and competes at the elite level. My advice would be the same; hit the wall because holdbacks are the norm and are not going anywhere.

What age?

Playing up is the way to get to the top. Hard short term and worth it.

Thanks for the words of wisdom Kooper’s coach. And congratulations on your 1 and 8 season. lol

Rising Freshman

Give it up guys - my son just completed his freshman year in the MIAA at the JV level and played against Juniors who were hold backs so they were really senior age - makes them better in my opinion. If your kid can’t hang go play baseball.

Playing jv at mt st Joe doesn’t count

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hammerhead. No one cares what happens in HS. Its the Youth & MS years that concern everyone due to the safety issues. Puberty vs non puberty.

highly doubt a holdback junior would be on JV

Right bc all kids hit puberty at the same time. Obviously your kid plays soccer too!!!

Happened all the time at Loyola Blakefield?

CHC just played BL in the JV championship game. BOTH teams had plenty of juniors-some were probably senior age.

Lol love calling out the trolls on this board. I detest to disappoint you but no JRs are permitted on the JV team at Loyola. If you doN’t make varsity as a JR you’re cut. Check CH JV roster or BL.

https://www.loyolablakefield.org/team-detail?Team=212115&SeasonLabel=2021%20-%202022

Previous years. Kids that were JRs they don’t put the grad year next to.

No whining and just work.

They are ashamed to and should be. Cut em or play on Varsity as juniors. This is where CHC & BL keep them so they don't go to other schools to play and be developed.

Only freshman & sophomores play JV @ MSJ, unlike BL & CHC. Oh, that is why they were the top two teams in 2022. If not holding back, lets just put juniors on JV-just another loophole. BK will never tell you not to come to CHC, he will just delay putting any effort into developing you and keep you from Varsity for as long as possible. Instead he will keep you content by winning a JV title as a junior. They don't even pull this trick in public school. Why you ask? So he can inflate rosters to keep these kids instead of transferring to play elsewhere. He will string them along until the senior year until they don't see the field at all in most cases.

You are no more a coach than a politician is honest. HS is about winning, that is it. Older players are mature and better players than same age . Of course occasionally there are exceptions. Not talking about them. The majority of MIAA are older players which is where the best go to play. Yes, if we lived in a fair world everyone would be on age, it isnt. I will take holdbacks each year and get more the next. At HS level having a team of college Freshman age is giving you an edge or at least competing against the ones that have the same.

Your wrong schools that have Fresh/Soph teams often have Juniors on the JV squads

'You are no more a coach than a politician is honest. HS is about winning, that is it. Older players are mature and better players than same age . Of course occasionally there are exceptions. Not talking about them. The majority of MIAA are older players which is where the best go to play. Yes, if we lived in a fair world everyone would be on age, it isnt. I will take holdbacks each year and get more the next. At HS level having a team of college Freshman age is giving you an edge or at least competing against the ones that have the same.'

100% correct. It is not cheating, it is a fact of life. It is not just a MD thing either. It is all around the country, including "The Island". Nothing anyone can do about it unless a relevant governing body is created that implements programs like U.S. Soccer.

Preach brother man! It would be great if you could win with just "on age" players but the reality is you probably won't. holdbacks will help you win!

JV is where you get hungry to start on varsity. Great spot to be on.

100% accurate.

It's why one player went down last year and their season fell apart.

CH doesn't develop talent. They recruit more with empty promises and keep kids from going to the competition.

But parents are too slow to realize it. The smart parents are looking at incoming FR (JV/FreshSoph team) vs outgoing SR (Varsity team) roster numbers and seeing what programs don't throw away kids.

Well said, Sir!

Inside Lacrosse Breaking news:

“Age Based Classification coming to Youth Lacrosse”

To happen by Spring 2024, likely to occur by fall 2023.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...cation-is-coming-to-youth-lacrosse/60381

Sounds like NLF, US Lacrosse, True, 3Step are all on board.

Didn't CHC have not 1 but 2 kids start out on F/S teams and went on to make and play for National team!? Sounds like at least a little development....