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Hahahahaha. Love this!!!

Venom
Rebels
Express (never beat Venom, split on Legacy)
BTB (tied Rebels)
Legacy (downward spiral)
Rush (not enough data)
S2S (beat igloo)
Surge (beat igloo twice)
Igloo (winless vs quality teams)
Turtles (also winless vs quality teams and about to implode)

No it wasn’t

They lost.

Is express legit ?

It’s over with, but for the record 2 calls were made very early and was not accommodated.

No it wasn’t[/quot

Ok what was it then ? Obviously not what was posted on tourney machine.

7-4

Tourney says 6-4

Who won S2S express play date

There should be no second team for any of these clubs

Now we are combining A and B teams from clubs to decide how a team did? Ok, got it.

How is igloo above rush??

7-4

Good question

There should be no second team for any of these clubs[/quote]

Because you said so? What if kids want to play but can’t make an A team

Might be the densest comment in a while. So kids that are developing should not have a club or organization to play with?

Which team played zone defense? Venom?

Rebels

Zone defense in 6th grade tells you the coaches don't have their priorities straight. Prioritizing team wins in a mediocre May tourney over player development. Rebels parents are loud and proud on the board. Would love to hear how they think playing zone in 6th grade is helping their middies and poles become better players.

Thanks for your concern, Coach. I'm sure the Rebels will be just fine.

Hilarious. Zone defense in club lacrosse, what a waste.

Its rare, at least amongst the big clubs, that there is any real focus on developing 2nd team players.

Surge seems to be doing a good job.

Yeah yeah we know. I read the 95 or so posts about how great they are.

New Rankings:
Venom
Express
Rebels
Legacy
BTB
RUSH
S2S
Surge
Igloo
Turtles

I think BTB, RUSH, S2S and SURGE should hold the 5th spot together. I believe that on any given day one of these teams beats the other. Very equally matched.

Top players will always leave for other programs if they don’t get pulled up to top team. That’s why these B teams have constant turnover.

Legacy beat rebels in same tourney. They are both solid. Rebels def well coached and better than last year but the zone is a turnoff- they have been playing that since 3rd grade

I think it’s all about playing time. If you’re not getting a lot, you might want to think about playing elsewhere.

Of course those kids should play. There should be more clubs, that’s all. The 2nd teams detract from the club in my opinion.

Surge is an excellent B team. They are in a tough situation finding good matchups. Playing in B tournaments is a guaranteed sweep. At least on the island. Everyone knew they would have no trouble at all last weekend. If they moved up into the other division, they wouldn’t have won a game. I suppose it’s best for them to play up and sacrifice their record for better completion. I don’t know the right answer for that and am glad that I don’t have to make those decisions.

Surge is the exception because the best of the best try out for 91 so you get a better runoff. With that said when they were Havoc before becoming surge they were not good. When they cut players from venom, surge benefits.

The rebels went 1-2-1 not exactly lighting the tournament field on fire. Playing zone defense since 3rd grade is irresponsible of their coaching staff or any program that plays predominantly zone defense. Teaching it as a change of pace or situational lacrosse is another story.

Its rare, at least amongst the big clubs, that there is any real focus on developing 2nd team players.[/quote]

Surge seems to be doing a good job.[/quote]

Surge is the exception because the best of the best try out for 91 so you get a better runoff. With that said when they were Havoc before becoming surge they were not good. When they cut players from venom, surge benefits.[/quote]

I give the kids and parents credit for going to surge after playing for the venom. A lot of others would have tried to find another A team. But I agree, they'll lose to the top teams and beat up "B" teams.

Surge coaches care and those players and that team are developing. While they don't have the stud athletes, they are certainly not treated like a typical 2nd team in an organization. Better than most of the top teams in many LI programs.

This should come to no surprise to anyone who knows the Rebels coach. He is the same guy who stayed in the B bracket for PAL to avoid teams like West I, GC and Manhasset etc who all play in the A.

You can definitely see that. Maybe some good kids give them a shot and then ya never know. Just what we need another good 91 team lol

But if they are winning with zone why does it matter. Kids are closing something right

They went 1-2-1 I hardly call that winning. All it is hiding.

Because it’s not about winning!!! It’s about developing as a player to get to the next level. Kids aren’t learning how to play defense correctly if they’re going to run zone.