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I'm so confused as to why there is this theory that Skywalkers has improved? If they have, how? The last time I saw them play it was a few weeks ago and they were most definitely not improved at that time. Did they bring on players? If so, where did those players come from?

Seems to me this "theory" has been placed here in an effort to recruit. I can't imagine why a player would want to move to a team that has never(?) won an NGLL game.

Accurate

Although I think M&D and Hero's are about equal. What are we really learning about M&D playing teams in that poor division? I think Hero's (and even BLC) get tough games every week. M&D gets one tough game (BLC) through the whole spring. Let's see how this shakes out.

Eye test from watching them last weekend. Offensive is much better. Defense still too poor to beat any top-20 team.

Picks for this week... Lots of games this week. Coppermine/Integrity and Heros/BLC most interesting games to me

Skywalker 12, CCLax 6
LBC 11, Stars 5
Heros 9, BLC 7
Coppermine 9, Integrity 8
NEMS 11, TLC 6
M&D 15, Heros White 2

M&D 14, TLC 3
MDU 12, Cavalier 4
LBC 9, Integrity 6
BLC 10, Stars 2
Heros 15, SW 4
Coppermine 11, CCLax 3
NEMS 12, Heros 5

Where in the world did you hear that?

For Sunday, I see LBC beating Integrity by 10

I would say Coppermine can't score double digits against anyone. But against CCLax, anything is possible.

Hero's takes out some aggression on SW

BLC has the most difficult schedule this Spring.

Can we talk about the refs for a moment?

I get its a tough job and parents coaches can be brutal and no doubt they are underpaid but I've noticed a few things in the 6-7 NGLL games I've watched:

1) Whistles on DCs
Either at the draw or the battle for the DC, false starts, holding, covering, seems like 40% of DCs are whistled. Was there some sort of rule change? Are they just calling things more than ever? Both teams seem to be getting this too. I mean I'm referring to what appears to be redraws going to one team or other.

2) Lack of yellow cards
MAybe its now 7th grade and they are letting more physical play happen, which is fine, but Ive seen many hits to head or crosscheck to body, either no call or no yellow.

3) Crease violations
I gotta say, my kid scored and stick def in crease, seems they either are not calling this, or assume feet and not stick is only thing that is crease violation

4) Time keeping
So its two 23 min halfs, but do they stop the clock on injury or last two min or every whistle? I noticed the last few games both at 2027 and other ages for my other kid, 2nd halves are going 25-26 min long.

Regarding 4, NGLL is supposed ot be stop time in last 2 minutes of half unless a team is up by 10.

I don't have an issue with #2 as much, though obvious headhits should be called. My complaint in the past (with older girls) was that MD games were overofficiated and when they played games up north or in FL/TX for recruiting events, they weren't used to the more physical style of play.

No new players added since last summer, the biggest year over year difference is the coaching which has been stellar.

I think SW has a good top 6 (all mids/attack), pretty good next 6-7 and then it drops off. If they can add 3-5 players, they will compete with most teams.

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Wild card will be Coppermine and if the Hopkins coach is really taking over to lead their recruiting next year.[/quote]
Where in the world did you hear that?[/quote]

That is coming straight from Coppermine parents at multiple age groups, apparently her sister is part of the Coppermine org

FWIW, I saw 4-5 yellows handed out at my niece's game on Sunday and 2 crease violations.

The female ref blew her whistle nonstop.

Where in the world did you hear that?[/quote]

That is coming straight from Coppermine parents at multiple age groups, apparently her sister is part of the Coppermine org[/quote]

Her sister is the head coach of the 2028 team. Apparently it is true that Tucker will be joining as a recruiting director.

When do the lines come out? I'm back to even money after my Pride/Stars parlay. Stars beat Cavalier outright which was a nice easy cover. I believe I have a lock for this weekend but need to see the lines first.

Second half of NGLL is stop clock in last two
Minutes. That may be why second half is longer. My daughters game was called like a tyker beginner game and it was miserable

Wednesday, got to finish a few more game tape views.

Haha! Fair Enough.

NGLL 2027 Week 3

Skywalkers Blue 27 vs CCLax 27
Skywalkers -7
I'm hoping CClax comes out inspired but the poor start and the rumors of SW improving, I gotta have them as a big underdog this week.

LBC 27 vs Stars Light Blue 27
LBC -7
LBC didn't impress last week, but neither did Stars. I gotta give it to LBC who I think gets it going again.

Hero's Green 27 vs BLC Blue 27
Hero's Green -3
Game of the Week. Hero's has a tough battle against MDU. BLC knows whats on the line here, likely a playoff bye. Given the roster switches, I expect a tough, physical battle here.

Coppermine Black 27 vs Integrity Green 27
Coppermine -2
Integrity can win the draw, and that will be big in this game. I think they play with a chip on their shoulder and give Coppermine all it can handle but come up just short.

TLC Red 27 vs NEMS 27
NEMS -6
NEMS needs to get things on track, they have not impressed so far. TLC can make a statement by keeping this tight.

M&D Black 27 vs Hero's White 27
M&D Black -12
White has to be feeling good after their shutout, but this is M&D and they will take it to them for 46 minutes.

Cavalier 27 vs MD United 27
MD United -8
Cavs didn't show much vs Stars and MDU looked good against Hero's. This one shouldn't be close.

TLC Red 27 vs M&D Black 27
M&D Black -15
M&D continues their slow walk to 8-0, TLC will be outmatched and it could be another 20 pts on the board for M&D.

Integrity Green 27 vs LBC 27
LBC -6
There's a chance for an upset here. Both teams rely on a few horses, and they played a lot of winter ball against each other.

BLC Blue 27 vs Stars Light Blue 27
BLC -11
You can call this a preview of the Capital 27 team as I expect many of these kids to be teammates there. BLC just too strong to make this competitive though.

Hero's Green 27 vs Skywalkers Blue 27
Hero' Green -11
It will be interesting to see how the Saturday games effect these Sunday matchups, but win or lose I expect HG to come out guns blazing. Their shooters will fire away.

CCLax 27 vs Coppermine Black 27
Coppermine -8
CCLax, if they get rolled Saturday may not have much desire in this game. Coppermine has to be tired of hearing how they are going downhill and should take it out in this game.

Hero's White 27 vs NEMS 27
NEMS -4
Its a must win game for Hero's White if they want a chance at the playoffs. They can certainly win this game, but I think NEMS gets it going and comes out, basically securing a playoff seed.

Give me Hero's White +12 against M&D and Hero's-11 against Skywalkers. Book it. Lol

Best post of the week...hilarious yet usually very accurate

If I am a top player from NEMS, TLC, Coppermine or bottom of A roster from BLC, M&D or Heroes, I am looking hard at SWB.

The program has a history of recruiting excellence, get in now before its too late.

Wild card will be Coppermine and if the Hopkins coach is really taking over to lead their recruiting next year.[/quote]


Regardless of recruiting director, can't see anyone going TO Coppermine. Recruiting relationships take a while to develop and Coppermine still won't be playing in top brackets in the big tourneys.

From my perspective, the big wild card will be M&D. Will they lose coaches as a result of the acqusition or be forced to play in more tourneys run by their owner group? Also remember CR's contract is up right when the 27s hit 10th grade.

If I was an M&D parent, I would be asking alot of questions between now and July.

Why would they force out M&D coaches? They likely play in different tournaments, but they still will play in top bracket against the top team, my main concern is the recruiting coordinators now are involved but honestly that can change at any club at any time.

College coaches know what they get from M&D and 2027 is no different. Those kids should ride that out through High School.

If you are good you are good no matter where you play. Play where you are happy.

I agree as long as M&D is allowed to play in the best tourneys and not forced into other lower level tourneys. I don't think much changes for the next couple years, however, if Chris leaves as expected in fall 2024, i would not be surprised if you see more significant changes.

Great lines! My parlay of the week was tough to pick. My sneaky play was going to be Hero's Green over BLC, but assumed the line was going to be closer to a pick 'em. "Vegas" is on point as always. BLC can't win the draw and is very average in their half court offense. Teams have figured out how to stop their fast break (get your middies back while only the attack rides) so they are not as strong as they once were. They do play a slow down offense which lends itself to low scoring close games though....

I'll stick with my original Hero's Green thought, although tougher to get behind at -3. I'll add MD United -8 to the two teamer. The Cavs are closer to a decent rec. team than a solid travel team.

Sorry to interrupt. But the entire 2028 thread was delete does anyone know how to get it started again?

Not sure what happened but that whole thread has devolved into a few Coppermine / M&D parents fighting over who is best team and why their 11/12 year old daughter will go D1

Regardless of recruiting director, can't see anyone going TO Coppermine. Recruiting relationships take a while to develop and Coppermine still won't be playing in top brackets in the big tourneys.

From my perspective, the big wild card will be M&D. Will they lose coaches as a result of the acqusition or be forced to play in more tourneys run by their owner group? Also remember CR's contract is up right when the 27s hit 10th grade.

If I was an M&D parent, I would be asking alot of questions between now and July.[/quote]

If you were a top player from NEMS, TLC, Coppermine or bottom of A roster from BLC, M&D or Heroes you would understand the value of staying put and looking for the next big thing for your kid.

Don’t be a club jumper. We don’t like it. Let your daughter play with friends and have fun. As a hs coach, I can tell you, she will be seen. Trust me.

If you were a top player from NEMS, TLC, Coppermine or bottom of A roster from BLC, M&D or Heroes you would understand the value of staying put and looking for the next big thing for your kid.

Don’t be a club jumper. We don’t like it. Let your daughter play with friends and have fun. As a hs coach, I can tell you, she will be seen. Trust me.[/quote]

Agree 100%. This also applies to coach recruiting as well. For any girl who has played on 3+ club, the first question from any coach is why. In the age of the transfer portal, coaches dont want kids who like to move around

Agree, the thread took a turn for the worse. They probably could sell tickets for their upcoming game in NGLL.

Need to restart the 28 thread somehow.

There is a "new thread" option, just start one

you must have more clout than I do, because there is no "new thread" option on my screen.

You may need an account like “SweepTheLeg”. Probably can’t do that as anonymous. Let’s get back to 27 lacrosse, this isn’t an IT support thread.

Don't think there will be as many as you BLC players at capital think . Of the top BLC players, a couple have older sisters playing at SW, so I expect SW to get as many if not more than Capital. Also, a couple BLC players want to play another sport in college, so they may not play club lax at all in high school, or at least not at the A/recruiting track level.

My guess is 27 Capital will be predominantly Pride Red players with maybe a few stars player 5-6 BLC players and probably 1 or 2 from a random VA club.

This sounds a lot like wishful thinking from either a Pride or SW parent.

I can't imagine more than 2-3 current Stars players making the Capital Blue 27 team, so this is probably a good analysis of what that team would look like.

Isn’t SW out of Baltimore (north) seems tough for besthesda kids to get up there but I guess it’s only May - July

Late breaking from Vegas.

Week 3 NGLL props


SW goals vs Heros Green. over/under: 3.5
Total M&D goals scored. over/under 30.5
Total CC Lax first half goals. over/under 5.5
Combined M&D and Heros Green margin of victory. over/under 42.5
Total goals in BLC/Heros game. over/under 15.5

Give me a 3-way parlay, M&D over 30.5, CCLax under 5.5 and M&D+Heros margin over 42.5

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