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Actually a rule like this would work pretty well, because it incentivizes and justifies the parents to police themselves. A fake parent pretending to be a butt will be obvious to the real parents of the team he is "supporting" and they would ask him with before the officials got involved. But when real parents are acting that way, a rule like this gives the perfect cover for parents to rein them in, as in "c'mon, we don't need another ridiculous penalty like the one we got last week."

2022 Results:
2026: Crabs over DC Express 14-8
2027: Hawks over Next Level 10-6
2028: Next Level over FCA
2029: Madlax over Hawks 8-4
2030: BLC-DC Express over Madlax 7-5
2031: Madlax over Wolfpack 11-7

DC Teams very well represented.

2032: Hawks over Blue Claws 6-3

Agree,

2nd graders cmon, man

Let the coaches engage with the refs as much as they want. Refs need to toughen up. The best refs love to jaw with the coaches and the players.

Any announcements on the division alignments for this season yet?

LOL. It's the HOCO league. Come back the week before the season starts.

Unfortunately this is accurate.

Every. Single. Year.

According to the "GHCLC Important Dates" document -

"Division Alignment ▪ Will take place during month of February o Schedule Release ▪ League Schedule Release Tentative Date: Wednesday, March 1st"

I don't get why they would make those claims when they know there is no way they are releasing any sort of schedule (partial or full) before March 18th. This is our sixth season and it has always been like this. We have come to expect it by now.

Initial alignments have been out for a couple weeks.
Maybe HoCo is trying to get things out on time this year?

Hahahahaha. Not a chance. Same brilliant brains in charge.

I'm one to pounce on the ineptitude of government AND I detest the last minute schedule with the HoCo league.

That said, let's remember that this a government run league that is hands down the best BOYS club league in the country, from the facilities to the (overall) bracketing of competition tiers. Yes there are some well run box lax leagues too.

Some easy things they could fix:
1) Fix the archaic roster challenge policy. No problem with the $50 fee, and in fact, just make it $100, digital payment instead of cash, and have an outside referee contractor handle it instead of putting a 48 hour limit on challenges, in person, at HoCo, when in fact the actual HoCo rep may be on vacation that week (which has happened).

2) Go ahead and schedule the dang playoff games so everyone can put them on our calendars instead of "Oh yeah, playoff game 800pm tomorrow, hope the entire roster is free on a friday night."

They should hire moms to run the league. The schedule would be out well in advance.

The real reason schedules are delivered at the last minute for the season is to eliminate the gamesmanship all of these coaches try in terms of ducking certain squads or targeting others to avoid Ls or pick up easy Ws.

If you receive more than your first game a week before the season starts, it will be the first time in 10 years that has happened. It's because coaches are given a prelim schedule, they complain for changes, which upends everything and causes a delayed release. Was a coach for many years. Happens year after year. Some coaches are never happy with the first schedule they are given and argue for changes, and the league folds to angry coaches instead of standing their ground.

The coaches and clubs are the reason things come out so late. From being insulted at not being Elite, or saying we are terrible and should be in the lowest bracket (just to sandbag wins) there is a lot going on.

Lots of complaints about brackets, asks for special accommodations on certain weekends, refusal to play certain teams week 1 yadda yadda.

It’s a lot. And overall they do a better job than anyone else.

Girls NGLL league schedule was released today. Three times as many teams to organize and they get it out a month ahead of time. Let’s go HoCo.

Actually been out for about a week, but some things have been tweaked (haven't looked close enough to know what exactly).

Two tournaments next weekend should move a few teams around depending on the outcomes.

Congrats to HOCO for getting out the full schedule before the first game has been played.

Not quite. Still letting teams make their own bye weeks and delaying complete schedules for everyone else.

Anyone know what organization is used to supply referees to HoCo?

why would you want to know that

why would you want to know that?... here we go little johnnie lost because of the refs

Maybe he wants to be a ref.

Southern Lacrosse Officials Association. They also do local college and MIAA games.

Ok let me guess - Are you the madlax Dad that ran out on the field to yell at the refs and then with a few other dads followed the refs out into the parking lot?

Today?

Sat 27 aa ML vs preds game - a fantastic display of parenting.

Wait, let me grab some popcorn before you start the story!

Do tell- That’s too juicy a comment not to give some payoff!

Isn’t this type of behavior what we have grown to expect from ML dad

Imagine spending years and years arguing for playing time for your little student only to get him suspended for two games.

Suspended for what?

It is not fair to keep us hanging.

Madlax didn’t even play a game yesterday. with you talking about?

27 DMV game

Yes, MadLax did play. Its 2027 DMV team (B team) played Predators and lost 5-8.
It sounds like maybe a ML player did something that earned a two game suspension and his Dad confronted the ref in the parking lot?
Perhaps someone can confirm or deny and provide details?