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What grade based tournaments do your sons play where the team plays at the grade of the YOUNGEST player on the team??????? Seems like, in MD, anyway, the team has to play based on the oldest player on the squad for GRADE based tournaments.

Not bizarre, nut job. If all tournaments go age based and verified by birth certificate, this whole argument goes away. MD teams have been doing this garbage for years... It's a fact, not an obsession. Also, to the guys who keep posting the U age brackets... Stop. The problem is in grade based tournaments, teams drop down to lowest grade on the team. (i.e. U-15 into 2017)grade repeaters and hold back teams have huge advantage. Where I come from, that's cheating, and until the sport does something about it certain teams from certain states will continue to game the system. Case closed!!!

15/16 yr olds as 2017's seems a little exaggerated. I get your point with the lack of fairness? Really? So when your kid is of the recruiting age, which is scary close to the 2017's, are you going to complain to the D1 coaches that it's not fair that your Johnny is 3 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter then his peers and that he should recruit your son because that would be the fair thing to do? Give it a break and get a reality check. This past weekend my 14 yr old's 2017 team played against kids with full and really long beards that said they were 2016!!! Guess what? No one complained that it wasn't fair - they dug deep and played and won. So stop complaining and just stick to a less competitive arena if you and your son can't handle it.

How many rising 9th graders will have to leave their club team to play for a school program this year? Will that change the rosters on any of the top teams?

Terps Black beat several maryland teams plus beat Dukes.

Terps Black beat several maryland teams plus beat Dukes.

The rule for all tournaments is that the team has to play to their oldest player. In reality I know for a fact that a lot of teams play to their youngest player.

For example if a team this summer is split evenly between rising 9th and 8th graders they will play all their tournaments as an 8th grade team.

No player should be forced to play for their summer town team. There is an obvious conflict of interest when high school coaches are bullying kids to play for them (and pay them!) in the summer with the threat of benching them in the Spring. At some point the school's administration and county conference directors should be made aware of this behavior. In any other business, it's considered extortion.

Thanks for the suggestion but, I don't need a reality check. 15/16 year old is not an exaggeration when you have a 9/97 kid that was put into a prep school for a year & will now enter the 9th grade to graduate in 2017. It happens all of the time. As one poster stated, look @ the UNC roster. Again, I will ask why it is so difficult for people to say when their child was born? If you aren't doing anything wrong, it shouldn't be a problem. My son is a very mature looking 14 year old, who through the years has been questioned regarding his age & we have always answered the question.

IDK why you seem so angry or why you would suggest my son couldn't handle it & seek a less competitive arena. You have no idea who he is or what team he plays for. I never said my son didn't "step up" or "Man up" or whatever "Manly" thing you would like to call it. You said yourself that your 14 year old played kids with beards & were 2016!! The question was asked & everyone skirts the issue. I was just wondering why. As for complaining to the D1 coach, that just wouldn't happen, silly question.

i know a parent sending his kid to repeat the 8th grade to a prep school that cost about $40k per year....
pay me now or pay me later...

Smartest thing I've read on this board so far!

Your such a tool to say it is "none of my business" to know the age of the boys lining up across from my son are valid. It is absolutely MY BUSINESS as a parent to know the situation I am putting my child in.

I am not sure each parent need to personally know the age of the opposition's players, but someone of authority (on the opposing teams should) i think parents need to know that the ages were validated.

It sounds like you should stick to the town rec league for your son, or perhaps bowling or chess club. Beat it, whiney complainer

It sounds like you should stick to the town rec league for your son, or perhaps bowling or chess club. Beat it, whiney complainer

Anyone hearing about Baltimore teams "recruiting" some boys from LI to play next summer...heard about Crabs and also heard FCA is starting a LI chapter.

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So true! And I ask whiny complainer - who are you going to complain to when jr is a freshman in college as a 17 yr old playing against 24 yr olds???

And yet another moron chimes in

The same kid will probably do a PG year at a prep school after HS and enter college as a 20 or 21 year old freshman.

The same kid will probably do a PG year at a prep school after HS and enter college as a 20 or 21 year old freshman.

Anyone hearing about Baltimore teams "recruiting" some boys from LI to play next summer...heard about Crabs and also heard FCA is starting a LI chapter.

GC loses 2 defenseman and 3 middies as they are all going to Chaminade. 2 of the 3 middies didn't play at all while both defensemen started. It will be interesting to see how they do next year

Not hearing that but hearing more kids bypassing clubs altogether and using the time/money to play in more individual recruiting showcases. Eliminates the backlash from the clubs for missing practices and club tournaments in favor of a more targeted approach. I think over time the clubs are becoming less relevent as more and more showcase events for individual players pop up and more college coaches hold college specific propsect days etc.. Something to think about.

Anyone hearing about Baltimore teams "recruiting" some boys from LI to play next summer...heard about Crabs and also heard FCA is starting a LI chapter.

Not hearing that but hearing more kids bypassing clubs altogether and using the time/money to play in more individual recruiting showcases. Eliminates the backlash from the clubs for missing practices and club tournaments in favor of a more targeted approach. I think over time the clubs are becoming less relevent as more and more showcase events for individual players pop up and more college coaches hold college specific propsect days etc.. Something to think about.

As for Baltimore teams recruiting NY kids, get over yourself. God, you guys are obsessed with Maryland.

Express has been doing this for years with kids going to St. Anthony's. Very few have had the guts to stray and play for clubs other than the Express. That's as wrong as it gets.

Given the belief that Maryland plays down, does that mean the MD teams are "recruiting" LI 2016's for the 2017 teams?? Isn't that the usual argument around here?

surely the oldest kids they can put on the lowest grade based team would be the strategy...especially how MD teams go by the grade you coming out of not going into!!!

No great loss...thentwo D men were second string when GC gets back three club team D men; two of who were on the winning Brine national championship team Long Island north and 3 who were at Jake Reed; two of which were on same team that went undefeated, scored 80+goals and gave up less than 20 goals. Those two players did not come off the field except for water.

GC will more than make up for the attrition to the private schools.