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True '26 added kids who were rostered elsewhere, mid-season.What parent thinks that is a good move?And what club wants those types of families?

Nobody thinks it's a good move or a good look unless you're one of those families being brought in mid-season to suddenly be "featured." And let's be honest it happens at tournaments with the elite teams all the way down to the rec club teams.

If my kid had been putting in time as the featured middie all fall/winter/spring and suddenly it's May 1 and suddenly he/she is #4 because 3 random kids became available (and the coach likes them)...........just no.

Most clubs will do it if it means winning. Most parents go along with it if it means winning.

So was this why True KP 26 dropped out of the playoffs ? Coincidence that it paved the road for Hoco 26 to the finals and that True KP badly beat Hoco during regular season ? And because of it, Hoco 26 deserves to move up to AAA....right.

The question should be "what families want that type of club?"

So now you all are whining and crying about True cheating - before it was older kids playing down - and before that it was reclassed kids

Just got play lacrosse

True KP and Baltimore are combining this year. Forming a HoCo AA and B team.
My son was sent to the B team. But was told he can still try out for the True state team.
So he wasn't good enough for the A team, but he could make the state team?
???
I'm not believing a word out of their mouths at this point. If it wasn't so late in the process we'd be gone.

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True for sure was cheating with bringing in players just to win, seems wrong to most,,,,, Older kids playing down is common and due to the clubs wanting to win and parents want advatage others dont get, seems wrong to most,,,,reclassed kids is same as older kids/prefirst playing down against younger kids , seems wrong to most..............

Yea, you are a holdback parent who could care less about the sport of lacrosse, just what is good for you and your son playing down against younger children. Seems wrong to most !

According to the consensus on this forum.....Crabs, 91, Hawks and Madlax in no particular order

Is the HoCo play date happening?

Hawks 26? No chance

But they do deserve to move up to AAA, the players and all 5 parent coaches!

If your kid can basically play (throw, catch, dodge, defend, communicate), and he or she shows up to a True tryout, they'll see:
1) There aren't a lot of kids at the tryout
2) Half or more of the kids at the tryout cannot throw and catch, even at 8th-9th grade.

I saw the head honchos of KP at some True clinics in summer of 2020. They saw what I saw........the kids who could play had KP, HLC, FCA helmets on. Kids who would not be joining True Balt. Which leaves........the other kids. Yet KP still pulled the trigger on selling to True, which in retrospect sure looks dense.

OF COURSE True would eat their identity.

OF COURSE True would kill their logo.

OF COURSE True would jack up the fees.

OF COURSE True would eat their best rosters.

I don't even blame True, this is just how they roll. KP was a great organization and it has to be said that someone (in KP) knew very well that the transaction would kill KP, and they made the sale anyway. Oh well?

HoCo Fall League a no go? No schedule, no sneak peaks, no n-o-t-h-i-n-g!

HoCo Play Day a no go? Only a handful of teams across all ages have registered.

True KP was probably disqualified for breaking the rules:

GHCLC Bylaws & League Rules
CONFERENCE APPLICATION & ROSTERS

Rosters will be submitted via the Sports Engine website.

Failure to turn in a roster and waiver before the first game will result in forfeiture of every game until they are on file with
the Conference.

Any additions or deletions must be put in writing and submitted to the Conference Manager before the player is eligible to
play. Additions must include all information and waiver forms required with the original roster submittal. No player may
be added after the fourth game of the season.

PLAYER ELIGIBILITY

Any team using an ineligible player shall automatically forfeit each game in which the player participated. If a team uses
a player under an assumed name, that team shall be suspended from the league. Each game played with that player and all
scheduled games not played shall be forfeited to the opponents.


Protests as to the use of an ineligible player must be made within 48 hours of game time during the regular season and
within one hour of post-season play. A $50 protest fee is required. The protest must be submitted in writing to the
Conference Commissioner. The protest fee will be refunded if the protest is successful.

Probably, Hoco dad ... but they were allowed to keep playing the rest of the regular season until they were matched up with HOCO in the playoffs.

The were not going to let their own lose a AA championship when they played down all spring to win.

It does explain how the 2028 HoCo coach somehow "knew" to roster check True Balt in the playoffs.......like one day later hahahaha.

KP hasn't been sold to True. Most of the KP 2026 top team moved to True Baltimore. KP has teams 2026-2031 plus MYLA and in-house at Tyker. I think there are 2024 and 25 teams playing next summer

True either "bought out" or "bought a controlling share" of Kelly Post Club in August 2020. The KP travel (rec MYLA) and in-house teams are operated by Towson Rec Council.

So was this why True KP 26 dropped out of the playoffs ? Coincidence that it paved the road for Hoco 26 to the finals and that True KP badly beat Hoco during regular season ? And because of it, Hoco 26 deserves to move up to AAA....right.[/quote]

True KP and Baltimore are combining this year. Forming a HoCo AA and B team.
My son was sent to the B team. But was told he can still try out for the True state team.
So he wasn't good enough for the A team, but he could make the state team?
???
I'm not believing a word out of their mouths at this point. If it wasn't so late in the process we'd be gone.[/quote]

If your kid can basically play (throw, catch, dodge, defend, communicate), and he or she shows up to a True tryout, they'll see:
1) There aren't a lot of kids at the tryout
2) Half or more of the kids at the tryout cannot throw and catch, even at 8th-9th grade.

I saw the head honchos of KP at some True clinics in summer of 2020. They saw what I saw........the kids who could play had KP, HLC, FCA helmets on. Kids who would not be joining True Balt. Which leaves........the other kids. Yet KP still pulled the trigger on selling to True, which in retrospect sure looks dense.

OF COURSE True would eat their identity.

OF COURSE True would kill their logo.

OF COURSE True would jack up the fees.

OF COURSE True would eat their best rosters.

I don't even blame True, this is just how they roll. KP was a great organization and it has to be said that someone (in KP) knew very well that the transaction would kill KP, and they made the sale anyway. Oh well?[/quote]

KP hasn't been sold to True. Most of the KP 2026 top team moved to True Baltimore. KP has teams 2026-2031 plus MYLA and in-house at Tyker. I think there are 2024 and 25 teams playing next summer[/quote]

True either "bought out" or "bought a controlling share" of Kelly Post Club in August 2020. The KP travel (rec MYLA) and in-house teams are operated by Towson Rec Council.[/quote]

Nope. You can't buy or sell a rec program. True KP teams pay an additional fee to have access to skills training and opportunity to tryout for state/national teams

True KP and Baltimore are combining this year. Forming a HoCo AA and B team.
My son was sent to the B team. But was told he can still try out for the True state team.
So he wasn't good enough for the A team, but he could make the state team?
???
I'm not believing a word out of their mouths at this point. If it wasn't so late in the process we'd be gone.[/quote]

If your kid can basically play (throw, catch, dodge, defend, communicate), and he or she shows up to a True tryout, they'll see:
1) There aren't a lot of kids at the tryout
2) Half or more of the kids at the tryout cannot throw and catch, even at 8th-9th grade.

I saw the head honchos of KP at some True clinics in summer of 2020. They saw what I saw........the kids who could play had KP, HLC, FCA helmets on. Kids who would not be joining True Balt. Which leaves........the other kids. Yet KP still pulled the trigger on selling to True, which in retrospect sure looks dense.

OF COURSE True would eat their identity.

OF COURSE True would kill their logo.

OF COURSE True would jack up the fees.

OF COURSE True would eat their best rosters.

I don't even blame True, this is just how they roll. KP was a great organization and it has to be said that someone (in KP) knew very well that the transaction would kill KP, and they made the sale anyway. Oh well?[/quote]

KP hasn't been sold to True. Most of the KP 2026 top team moved to True Baltimore. KP has teams 2026-2031 plus MYLA and in-house at Tyker. I think there are 2024 and 25 teams playing next summer[/quote]

True either "bought out" or "bought a controlling share" of Kelly Post Club in August 2020. The KP travel (rec MYLA) and in-house teams are operated by Towson Rec Council.[/quote]

Nope. You can't buy or sell a rec program. True KP teams pay an additional fee to have access to skills training and opportunity to tryout for state/national teams[/quote]

YOu can't sell a REC program. But many of the club teams that are connected to a rec program for use of their fields etc, are operated as a separate entity. The "club" version of many programs are often run as a separate entity from the rec side because they require independent fundraising and different, less standardized billing. If the club team protion was run as a separate entity, they could in fact sell.

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I don't even blame True, this is just how they roll. KP was a great organization and it has to be said that someone (in KP) knew very well that the transaction would kill KP, and they made the sale anyway. Oh well?[/quote]

KP hasn't been sold to True. Most of the KP 2026 top team moved to True Baltimore. KP has teams 2026-2031 plus MYLA and in-house at Tyker. I think there are 2024 and 25 teams playing next summer[/quote]

True either "bought out" or "bought a controlling share" of Kelly Post Club in August 2020. The KP travel (rec MYLA) and in-house teams are operated by Towson Rec Council.[/quote]

Nope. You can't buy or sell a rec program. True KP teams pay an additional fee to have access to skills training and opportunity to tryout for state/national teams[/quote]

YOu can't sell a REC program. But many of the club teams that are connected to a rec program for use of their fields etc, are operated as a separate entity. The "club" version of many programs are often run as a separate entity from the rec side because they require independent fundraising and different, less standardized billing. If the club team protion was run as a separate entity, they could in fact sell.[/quote]

That's not how it works with KP. Some of the club teams are True KP others are not. According to my son's coach the KP true parents pay an extra couple hundred which gives them extra training and access to True state and national teams. His team is not True Kp but is club team

It's the 3d Model.
Asked Carroll Manor how their 3d excursion worked out.
Brining in an outside group to provide more or better training is the last act of a desperate rec org.

100%. Mesa came in, stunk in most of the Severna Park kids, charged full rate. Failed to deliver in nearly everything, fields, practices, coaches leaving during tournament games... After 1 year Mesa folded and bam those kids were running to True and anywhere that would take them. Sev Park lax is back to being a bad rec option worse than when they started.

I don’t know what is meant by sold but the kp club teams are definitely playing under True now. The team formerly known as True KP is now True Baltimore. Pretty sure this is the case at every level but definitely for the 2026.

KP hasn't been sold to True. Most of the KP 2026 top team moved to True Baltimore. KP has teams 2026-2031 plus MYLA and in-house at Tyker. I think there are 2024 and 25 teams playing next summer[/quote]


I don’t know what is meant by sold but the kp club teams are definitely playing under True now. The team formerly known as True KP is now True Baltimore. Pretty sure this is the case at every level but definitely for the 2026.[/quote]

only correct for 2026 grey

I know for 2028, last spring there was True Baltimore, True KP Grey, and True KP Green.

The question remains does KP offer any club teams that aren’t true?

True didn’t buy squat. True just got KP to sign a will not compete clause for the 26s in exchange for some coaching help at that age group.

Was it vetted by lawyers ? This sounds like the beginning of a hostile takeover. Did KP hire a reputable law firm? Maybe Venable LLP, I think they are largest in Balt.

True KP and HOCO played at True KP field 2 weeks after HOCO league ended. HOCO whipped them 11-5. And yes, full squads and refs.

GHCLC Play-Day 2021 - Cancelled as of Sep 21, 2021

Guess HoCo got no takers for the fall league or play day

Highlight video question. I've seen a variety of highlight videos of kids in high school. Some look like they are shot from the Goodyear blimp and others from the sidelines like NFL Films. Are the kids or clubs hiring private video guys to supplement the Next Level Video, Next Pro or Cruitcasts? Are these companies that do this more focused type of angle or just parents?

My son plays for Crabs. They hired someone to shoot every game (HOCO league). We get a link to each game and then kids can make their own highlight video using those. Cost was “included” in club fee.

Many clubs have a video systems or videographers for the games included in the fees. Ask your club and see.

Subject: GHCLC Spring Season - POSTPONED

Club Directors and Administrators,

We will be extending the GHCLC start date to AT LEAST the weekend of April 24th.

We're going to explore different avenues (i.e shortened season, multi-weekend tournament, etc.) as we work through this tough time. The league and it's Board of Directors will continue to discuss contingency plans. We also understand that many of our clubs/organizations fall under several different jurisdictions and must adhere to those regulations.

Please diregard, that was from 2020.

I think this is from 2020 and reposted as a hoax.

with with this spam, yo?