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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. I think your off base about Cannons. They played in the Chesapeake Fall Classic in October. Went 1-2. Lost 6-3 against Kaos which is a AA/A level club on the Eastern Shore. Beat a bad True Baltimore team 12-0. Lost to True DC (formerly Eastside) 3-2. They could be ready to drop to AA.
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team 91 will be in elite by 8th grade.
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. Hope they don’t overload Elite with teams who have no business there. Big drop off after the top 6 teams.
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looks like the AA dads are offended.
You guys are right - your Johnny is just as good as the elite kids. It’s just the man is keeping him down.
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There are probably 5 or so on each of the elite teams that don’t belong there on talent alone. That number might fluctuate from team to team but it’s probably about right. The man is always keeping non elite thinking players parents down,, Thats just the Man being the Man
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. Predators will be AAA by Summer and contending for being one of better AAA by summer end.
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looks like the AA dads are offended.
You guys are right - your Johnny is just as good as the elite kids. It’s just the man is keeping him down.
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There are probably 5 or so on each of the elite teams that don’t belong there on talent alone. That number might fluctuate from team to team but it’s probably about right. It's youth lax and all these things can be true.......and they are. And I am here for the hilariousness! 1) AA and AAA dads pretending no skills gap exists from top to bottom, "my kid could be a starter on Hawks, but this year he plays for Diamondbacks." 2) Elite dads whose kid plays 5 minutes per game, "He's a specialist!" And who is 100% sure his kid is Top 100 material come 9th grade.
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. Hope they don’t overload Elite with teams who have no business there. Big drop off after the top 6 teams. That is a valid point, but the only other option is keep those teams at AAA and push the rest of AAA down to AA (and the ripple effect down to a new "B" league full of last year's "A" teams).
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yep I noticed that number 5 on NL Red was really good at cutting and most likely the best player on the team overall just low stamina and not super athletic FCA white parent Hi Dave Mitchell here I heard from someone on my coaching staff that you were talking about my players I had the pleasure of coaching these boys in the Halloween Havoc yes #5 Odog is a beast at attack his stamina is not the best these boys have an amazing starting defensive line and to fast Lsm who go in at the same time one of them is #10 is a very aggressive player goes after the ball has a hard accurate shot if you put a shorty in his hand you wont be dissapointed this kid can take faceoffs and win he smoked everyone in the NXT mid Atlantic showcase destroying the True dc fogos just wanted to make sure that if you were talking about my players I lay down the law.
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yep I noticed that number 5 on NL Red was really good at cutting and most likely the best player on the team overall just low stamina and not super athletic FCA white parent Hi Dave Mitchell here I heard from someone on my coaching staff that you were talking about my players I had the pleasure of coaching these boys in the Halloween Havoc yes #5 Odog is a beast at attack his stamina is not the best these boys have an amazing starting defensive line and to fast Lsm who go in at the same time one of them is #10 is a very aggressive player goes after the ball has a hard accurate shot if you put a shorty in his hand you wont be dissapointed this kid can take faceoffs and win he smoked everyone in the NXT mid Atlantic showcase destroying the True dc fogos just wanted to make sure that if you were talking about my players I lay down the law. if you are Dave, stop posting immediately and stop talking about your kids "destroying the competition. It's embarrassing. If you're not Dave, this is exactly why I love BOTC. Please keep it up.
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This forum is off the rails. I mean, I do enjoy reading it. But wow, it has reached a new level of something.
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If you get get the NL kids to stop posting player rankings and naming individual kids by name that would be super.
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1. That poster is obviously not Dave Mitchell.
2. The above recommendation to “Dave Mitchell” about keeping kids off the board is wise counsel to all of us—parents and coaches. Holds true for most if not all social media.
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. Predators will be AAA by Summer and contending for being one of better AAA by summer end. Have Predators won a game yet? Against anyone? Seriously not trolling but just wondering. I think if they keep their “alignment” with St Paul’s, they will eventually get better.
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is blc orange going to be good AA OR A because of BLC blue cutting a lot of the players and they got new coaches cant wait for blc orange VS nextlevel red
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And while you are at it - call the BLC kids and tell them to stay off the board also.
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. Predators will be AAA by Summer and contending for being one of better AAA by summer end. Have Predators won a game yet? Against anyone? Seriously not trolling but just wondering. I think if they keep their “alignment” with St Paul’s, they will eventually get better. They have not. Played Madlax twice, Thunder, Mesa, BLC all after 5 practices and HoCo Blacks 2nd string goalie.
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I’m sure they are lathering up the parents on how it’s not about wins and losses but about DEVELOPMENT.
Which is probably the most overused statement in all of youth sports.
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That is true. Major weakness. Any good FO kid could come over and get 100% of the FO opportunities. Wishful thinking.
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is blc orange going to be good AA OR A because of BLC blue cutting a lot of the players and they got new coaches cant wait for blc orange VS next level red The NL red boys had a friendly scrimmage totally no fighting they did dust the blc boys 23-5 but this became a haeted rivalry like Maryland and Rutgers these boys on blc are new to the game and were trying to make a name for themselves however these NL RED boys saw a scrap and wrecked it up they went after every ground ball the reason BLC scored 5 goals is because NL goalie broke his wrist and they put in their short stubby 3rd string FOGO in net and a hard shot is a hard shot this was one of the funniest scrimmages to witness as a parent on blc but there is no doubt in my mind that NL red will tear up the AA bracket I know you all might say that's not very fatherly but the truth is the truth and we owe it to ourselves as good Christians and good semartins to point out the truth and the good I these boys who arent getting more than 2 looks from coaches because they were previously on a b team.
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I’m sure they are lathering up the parents on how it’s not about wins and losses but about DEVELOPMENT.
Which is probably the most overused statement in all of youth sports. And I’m sure #47 and his buddies are lathering up for prom season.
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea?
The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever.
Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it.
So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out.
In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will.
It's an interesting conundrum.
AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up:
BLC
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AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue
FCA White
Cannons
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HLC
Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group.
AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo
DCE who was still open recruiting players in December
T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA)
HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams
AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A.
A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A.
Predators will be AAA by Summer and contending for being one of better AAA by summer end.
Have Predators won a game yet? Against anyone? Seriously not trolling but just wondering. I think if they keep their “alignment” with St Paul’s, they will eventually get better. They have not. Played Madlax twice, Thunder, Mesa, BLC all after 5 practices and HoCo Blacks 2nd string goalie. Total evaluation by Predators, Not the wins that count, but the evaluation. Predators will be in the hunt for AAA by end of Spring. They are a club on rise.
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Not a great sign for the Preds. Madlax doesn't dominate faceoffs. It's their weakest link. Their attack and defense are their strongest links. If they get the ball, it's over. If the FO is disputed, it's over.
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Maybe Preds just needs to start a holdback train like (fill in the blank club).
Their kids are largely on age.
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i saw on the madlax Instagram they posted a which clip is better and showed a real 2028 and number 47 and they said that these are 28s
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Not a great sign for the Preds. Madlax doesn't dominate faceoffs. It's their weakest link. Their attack and defense are their strongest links. If they get the ball, it's over. If the FO is disputed, it's over. Sorry your team lost players to Predators, It will only continue, Might want to join the train before your club goes off the rails.
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. Predators will be AAA by Summer and contending for being one of better AAA by summer end. Have Predators won a game yet? Against anyone? Seriously not trolling but just wondering. I think if they keep their “alignment” with St Paul’s, they will eventually get better. It appears they are aligned with St Paul's and McDonogh now.
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. Hope they don’t overload Elite with teams who have no business there. Big drop off after the top 6 teams. That is a valid point, but the only other option is keep those teams at AAA and push the rest of AAA down to AA (and the ripple effect down to a new "B" league full of last year's "A" teams). I assume the divisions will go the way of grade inflation generally, so if they add another one then AAA will go to AAAA, etc., and everyone will be above average.
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Elite AAA AA A B…..lol just stop
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General question re what grouping a team plays in at HOCO. If the coach wants to enter a team in Elite (say BLC....for no specific reason...and not specific for elite per se) does HOCO take them in Elite or is there a discussion at admin level whether or not this is a good idea? The way it works in HoCo is that each team signs up for a specific division. Assuming that a doable number sign up for a given division, teams play in what they sign up for. If there are imbalances in numbers for the different divisions, odd numbers, etc. then there is a “competition committee” that determines who should go in what division, subject to negotiation with the teams influenced. In practice, the established elite clubs always get into elite if they want to be there. So to take BLC for example — if they preference elite and that’s what they will likely do I think based on the tournaments they played in the fall, they will be in elite. It wouldn’t matter if someone had a better fall or whatever. Given what happened in this age group last year. I don’t think they will try to force anyone into elite who doesn’t want to be there. So presumably the top 6 will all preference elite. Then BLC will as well. The only two other teams who are likely to preference elite are Kelly Post and/or Blue Claws. If only one of them does, then that will set elite at 8 and there will be no competition committee discussion. If both do, there will probably be a discussion as to whether either wants to drop down to AAA. If they both are adamant they want to stay in elite, the league will see if a nine team division is possible schedule wise and whether the other teams object to it. They’ve done nine team divisions a couple of times in the past so it is possible. But more likely either KP or BC would accept a spot in AAA rather than create an odd team league and the schedule issues that come with it. So to answer the question because BLC is an established club that usually plays in elite in most age groups and played in elite last year, there is little to no chance they’d be asked to move out regardless of whether you think BC or KP are better. VLC probably won’t want to be in elite, but if they did preference it, then the likely outcome would be a 10 team elite division. Given the relationship of VLC to Crabs, no one would likely raise an objection to their inclusion if they wanted to be there. The big clubs never try to force each other out. In the next 30 days the HoCo league maestros will have a difficult choice because of the ridiculous # of teams who insist on hanging out at the AAA level (15+). Either create a larger Elite bracket (8-12 teams) or create a B level from the current A teams and slide half of the AAA squads down to AA against their will, and slide all the AA teams down to A against their will. It's an interesting conundrum. AAA Teams who may or may not want to go to Elite, but would have to slide up: BLC VLC Claws KP AAA AAA Teams that are just standard, good AAA teams that no one would argue FCA White Cannons Forest Hill HLC Hawks Black MAYBE, but in danger of following in the next group. AAA Teams that are kidding themselves and are likely to be slid into AA thanks to HoCo DCE who was still open recruiting players in December T91, whose only new players are from HoCo Pink (bottom of AAA) and Swarm (bottom of AA) HoCo Pink aka Predators, who have yet to win a game against AAA or Elite teams AA: Most teams except Sidewinders and Team MD should move to A. A: Most teams except Baltimore Elite? should move to B. Maybe LTLC stays in A. Predators will be AAA by Summer and contending for being one of better AAA by summer end. Have Predators won a game yet? Against anyone? Seriously not trolling but just wondering. I think if they keep their “alignment” with St Paul’s, they will eventually get better. It appears they are aligned with St Paul's and McDonogh now. I heard some boys are heading over to bakerfield BL and St Pats
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Elite AAA AA A B…..lol just stop where does NL red fall in to this mix because if BLC orange went 1-6 last year in AAA and got smoked by NL red does BLC go to AA and and NL aswell or does NL RED fill the possible open AAA slot
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BLC Orange wasn’t in AAA.
I think NL red lost to FCA White by something like 13 goals (?) if you’re looking to see where they might shake out.
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i think the best fit for both of the teams is AA With blue clwas Kp true preds and it will be a great league don't want to see a b team get smoked in AAA
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Predators will be AAA by Summer and contending for being one of better AAA by summer end. I think if they keep their “alignment” with St Paul’s, they will eventually get better. It appears they are aligned with St Paul's and McDonogh now. I heard some boys are heading over to bakerfield BL and St Pats They have boys from all over, The coaches are were largely St Paul's and Towson U. Now MCD people have recently gotten involved on the admin and coaching side.
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B Team Rankings:
FCA White
Hawks Black
NL Red
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Madlax DMV
True whatever they are called (Chesapeake?)
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BLC Orange wasn’t in AAA.
I think NL red lost to FCA White by something like 13 goals (?) if you’re looking to see where they might shake out. True but same tourtament beat Top calliber by 7 and beat mdx hoco and ville
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FCA White
Hawks Black
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BLC Orange
Madlax DMV
True whatever they are called (Chesapeake?)
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Kelly Post Green Blc orange lost to dmv
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Since we are talking AA here is my guess for Spring Hoco:
True DC(Lost some kids to Next Level and added the bottom kids from HoCo Pink/Black)
Preds (New team: Mostly FCA white/blue send-offs, KP, HoCo Pink 2 best players, Forest Hill Stud goalie)
Team 91 (They don't belong in AAA, mostly same team, Swarm and HoCo Pink additions)
Next Level Red (New team: 1 or 2 studs should carry the team; will be AAA next year)
Sidewinders (Same team?)
Ville (A few solid kids, great FO, mostly same kids)
True Annapolis White (Not much info)
Madlax DMV (Big difference between DMV and Madlax Elite team)
BLC Orange (Maybe? Should prob be A)
Championship: Team 91 vs Preds with Next Level making strong push.
Strong possibility they have a B division with a bunch of new teams. Up next....AAA.
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Since we are talking AA here is my guess for Spring Hoco:
True DC(Lost some kids to Next Level and added the bottom kids from HoCo Pink/Black)
Preds (New team: Mostly FCA white/blue send-offs, KP, HoCo Pink 2 best players, Forest Hill Stud goalie)
Team 91 (They don't belong in AAA, mostly same team, Swarm and HoCo Pink additions)
Next Level Red (New team: 1 or 2 studs should carry the team; will be AAA next year)
Sidewinders (Same team?)
Ville (A few solid kids, great FO, mostly same kids)
True Annapolis White (Not much info)
Madlax DMV (Big difference between DMV and Madlax Elite team)
BLC Orange (Maybe? Should prob be A)
Championship: Team 91 vs Preds with Next Level making strong push.
Strong possibility they have a B division with a bunch of new teams. Up next....AAA. Will not be 11 teams in any division
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Predators will be AAA by Summer and contending for being one of better AAA by summer end. I think if they keep their “alignment” with St Paul’s, they will eventually get better. It appears they are aligned with St Paul's and McDonogh now. I heard some boys are heading over to bakerfield BL and St Pats They have boys from all over, The coaches are were largely St Paul's and Towson U. Now MCD people have recently gotten involved on the admin and coaching side. Cream rises to the top. Predators will be a top Club within a year. Talk of Baltimore and MIAA
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