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Not sure why the detest for McD either but let’s be clear about 3 things:
1) it certainly wasn’t a useless tournament to the girls
2) if you think it useless, then why ever play any tournaments, with your logic games don’t matter then either
3) This is usleful if you care about rankings for Maryland teams. This is the only games the teams will play between states for their high school. Therefore it helps all Maryland teams with national rankings which is also important to the players (clearly not to you of course because it is clear that your comment is literally about taking success away from the girls that work hard win or lose)
To close, just let them have their kudos on a great winning weekend. As I am sure you can’t possibly run up and down a field once let alone for 4 straight hours of games and playoffs.

Love it! Check out some rosters. Some traditional great lacrosse schools played in this "useless" tournament. Players are going to some powerhouse college teams. All of those teams came ready to play, and there was some really great team play and individual play that I witnessed from too many teams to count. I enjoyed the weekend, even though we lost. So stop bashing teams that win, and do yourself a favor...go to counseling, and let you kids team play without you bashing the team that beats you.

[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why the detest for McD either but let’s be clear about 3 things:
1) it certainly wasn’t a useless tournament to the girls
2) if you think it useless, then why ever play any tournaments, with your logic games don’t matter then either
3) This is usleful if you care about rankings for Maryland teams. This is the only games the teams will play between states for their high school. Therefore it helps all Maryland teams with national rankings which is also important to the players (clearly not to you of course because it is clear that your comment is literally about taking success away from the girls that work hard win or lose)
To close, just let them have their kudos on a great winning weekend. As I am sure you can’t possibly run up and down a field once let alone for 4 straight hours of games and playoffs.[/
Thanks SPSG parent. Why isn’t SPSG playing in the BWI indoor league then where they can prove they are the best week in and week out. A 4 game tournament doesn’t prove much when they play weak teams.

The BWI indoor league is good for reducing roster size eg causing injuries before the season. There is a big disparity in skill levels between teams and often those frustrations result in rough play

SPSG or McD coach? Guessing McD. Someone needs to expose her for who she really is. In fact a few coaches in the IAAM need to be exposed for who they really are.

I wouldn't call it a useless tournament, but it was 7 on 7 with no draws after goals wasn't it?

Yeah ok. There’s a clear agenda when you look at whom this particular IL contributor has made comments like this about and we’re she’s ranked players in club and college. iIt’s obvious if just look through the last few months of the magazine you’ll notice almost every picture has a common theme.

Your logic is incredible, I can only assume that you peaked in high school and now praying your kid can do the same. To respond in the same context and I ordered them from least notIntelligent to most notIntelligent to help with your presumed iq under 80(but I am sure you scored 4 touchdowns in one high school football game and you used to bench 405)
1) no one is claiming it proves anything except that spsg was the best that weekend.
2) with kind of argument is “why don’t they do this league or that league” or they aren’t the best. By that logic Michael Jordan stunk because he never won a game in the wnba
3). Weak team? 12 of the top 15 schools In the country were there.

I stand corrected.SPSG has already won the IAAM A. All the other 13 teams are playing for 2nd. You are a typical private school
snob parent.

Are you really saying what I think you're saying? Man I hope not. If so you need help.

no one has clarified which coach - McD or SPSG?

NDP

I don’t know what do you think I’m saying. If you thinking what I’m thinking then you clearly see it too.

I WANT TO CHANGE MY ANSWER ON THE IQ, I CAN ONLY ASSUME IT IS BELOW 50. Not assuming that any team will win next year, I specifically said that SPSG was the best THAT WEEKEND in THAT TOURNAMENT. This debate started because you said that it was a "useless tournament" with "weak competition" which is you either being a sore lost or just plain ignorant. Ultimately the area is packed with amazingly talented girls and coaches and any team can win. (But I am sure you will be on the sideline claiming that whoever won didnt deserve it of course)

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Sorry that's what you took from my comments, all I said was that SPSG was the best that weekend at that tournament. Same I would say if my daughters school ever won a tournament or the IAAM. My frustration was based on the fact that you called the tournament "useless" and that there were "weak teams" which is wrong on so many levels. Let the girls enjoy their win without some disgruntled dad challenging their success

Wow, you’re easily irritated

The BWI League is a trash league. SPSG stopped playing there because of two ACL tears three years ago. Most teams are sub average.

What happened? Your kid didn’t get a look during some tournaments? Sounds like it. There are a million excuses in the world, and I bet you can think of all of them. You are the typical parent whose kid is not that good, but you trash everyone else to justify the reason why your kid did not get accolades…and why are you stalking the IL writer??? you are a strange cookie. I bet you can give us every trash like excuse in the world. Perhaps lacrosse isn’t her thing. Try badminton.

Clear agenda? The only agenda is that you have one, because your kid isn’t good enough to get mentioned. Jealousy and envy gets you nothing. You are a pathetic person that loves to think of conspiracy theories and throw them out. That won’t make your kid better at lacrosse. The only thing that I can clearly see is that you are upset, because your kid didn’t get mentioned after her tournaments last fall and summer. Maybe she is in the wrong sport.

I always find it amusing when a comment like this gets posted. "Useless"

Maybe it wasn't useless to the girls who actually showed up and got to play in a competitive environment. Any time you can square off and showcase your skills, it's not useless

But I'm glad your daughter was able to stay home and make TikToks and eat her 20th Chick Fil-A nugget.

I have seen all of those mentioned players, you probably have too. They are exceptional and you know it. I will take any of them on my team. I wish they were on my team! Because your little girl wasn’t mentioned, don’t detest on the others.

actually I got her the 30 nugget tray and she finished them off like the champ she is. It's still a useless tournament.

IT may be a "meaningless" championship but its 100% useful. Anytime you play against other teams its useful.

Ok, let's see that email.

WOW, is there a reason that hit a nerve?

Why is the attack always "you're kid isn't good enough"??? Get another response please! The comment didn't state that the player didn't deserve the recognition...it's just odd that a "standout" was stated when the player hadn't played a full game yet.

Congrats on your 11th grade JV player

No nerve at all. Our club team has played against most of those players that got mentioned. They are very good and stand out. By the way, get your timeline correct before you spread the untruth; but that is what you conspiracy theorists do. The only nerve that was hit was yours, and your clear pathetic agenda. There are forums for your conspiracy, so go over to those...which I am sure you have membership.

No "conspiracy"...no "untruth"...no "nerve that was hit was yours"...no "pathetic agenda"....Never said she wasn't a good player, honestly have never seen her play so there's that. But, you keep being you and calling people names...have a great day.

TY, she is a handful

I have not called you anything. I just called you out for who and what you are.

Let’s have change of topic…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/comments?storyUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fsports%2F2022%2F01%2F11%2Fone-nations-best-young-lacrosse-players-confronts-lack-diversity-her-sport%2F

I’ve watched the 24 M&D team many times haven’t ever noticed her. Is she new to the team?

She plays on the red team.

What is so confusing? She played on the #1 high school team in the country last year behind a highly talented senior class and is now getting an opportunity to shine (and, she did in this tournament). Good for her and all players like her who will get more opportunities this spring and beyond. I don't think it is unusual for younger players to step up when given the chance particularly on deep talented teams like NDP, SPSG and MCD.

As a POC and former lacrosse player I have a lot of concerns about this article. I have been in the locker room and experienced similar conversations. But I feel like there is a lot of spin going on. Just not sure if it's coming from the mom or the writer of the article. Since when is having in-earnest conversations with teammates/friends racist? So many people are scared to talk and get to know eachother for fear of offending. Being friends/teammates means those conversations CAN happen. If it's a conversation, not being cornered. If the friend or teammate offends you and is overtly malicious with their comments/conversation, they aren't a friend. If its a bad time to have those conversations, Tell your teammate, "maybe some other time." The way this is scenario is portrayed for the point of the article seems questionable to me. That may or may not be the case. The teammate could also just be young and notIntelligent.

The rest of this story sounds like the same complaints EVERY lacrosse parent has:
"My kid is REALLY good. Why cant she play a different position?"
EVERY kid wants to play a different position. Especially defenders.

What people are missing is that this kid tried out made her team AS A DEFENDER. No smart coach is ever going to switch a kid out of their normal position on their whim, to try something new. Try that experiment on another's team's time. Or work on it in the offseason and try out for your team at the new position. Rosters made with a plan in mind, so moving a player, particularly a top player like this girl apparently is, changes a lot. Not necessarily for the better.

So the Coach of the A team wanted her to play defense but she went to the B team to play mid. Then basically calls out the A coach as a racist for not allowing her to be a mid. Hopping this is the mom and not the player.

What people are missing is that this kid tried out made her team AS A DEFENDER. No smart coach is ever going to switch a kid out of their normal position on their whim, to try something new. Try that experiment on another's team's time. Or work on it in the offseason and try out for your team at the new position. Rosters made with a plan in mind, so moving a player, particularly a top player like this girl apparently is, changes a lot. Not necessarily for the better.

She also plays defense for her high school team as well. She also doesn't take draws for her school either so not sure how she broke the draw control record. This hole article is contrived. Maybe a bit of self publicity arranged by the parents.

I wasn't allowed to faceoff when I was in hs.
He always made me play goalie.
So the coach was racist.

I don't get this article? She played defense for the US team, so why is their argument that playing Defense for her Club team racist? When did playing defense become racist? When did getting a red card become racist? Am i missing something?