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13 year olds should not be in 6th grade Madlax would disagree
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13 year olds should not be in 6th grade That’s not what Crabs told me.
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Do holdbacks as a category exist in the real world? Is it a concept High School or College coaches care about? Or does it only exist in forums and the minds of LARPing dads? Nope, college coaches don't care. Read any article on any sport regarding the transfer portal, grad students and the extra year of eligibility. High school coaches don’t care either. Frankly they prefer it it in MIAA to compete. Sorta sad, but that is the way it is now. I dont know why we cant hold back two years? or is that stretching it? CH recently tried that and the league ruled the player ineligibility for 2022. They have at least a few kids who were considered HS "juniors" last year, and are still enrolled at CH, but not participating in 2022 due to their...uhm...advanced age. And they still have 120+ kids on their program roster.
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They have at least a few kids who were considered HS "juniors" last year, and are still enrolled at CH, but not participating in 2022 due to their...uhm...advanced age.
And they still have 120+ kids on their program roster. CH- where kids go to ride pine. It's not a bad strategy, really. Only play 22 kids on game day, but recruit as many kids as possible so they can't play against you in the future.
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They have at least a few kids who were considered HS "juniors" last year, and are still enrolled at CH, but not participating in 2022 due to their...uhm...advanced age.
And they still have 120+ kids on their program roster. CH- where kids go to ride pine. It's not a bad strategy, really. Only play 22 kids on game day, but recruit as many kids as possible so they can't play against you in the future. Why would CH bring in kids their junior year with no eligibility their senior year? Doesn’t make sense.
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They have at least a few kids who were considered HS "juniors" last year, and are still enrolled at CH, but not participating in 2022 due to their...uhm...advanced age.
And they still have 120+ kids on their program roster. CH- where kids go to ride pine. It's not a bad strategy, really. Only play 22 kids on game day, but recruit as many kids as possible so they can't play against you in the future. Why would CH bring in kids their junior year with no eligibility their senior year? Doesn’t make sense. Do you really think the CH Coach cares what happens the next year with these players. With over 100 players, next year will take care of itself
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13 year olds should not be in 6th grade Madlax would disagree Youth Basketball is grade based with a Ton of older kids in youth programs. But no one would dare say anything about those kids.
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13 year olds should not be in 6th grade Madlax would disagree Youth Basketball is grade based with a Ton of older kids in youth programs. But no one would dare say anything about those kids. No, Most AAU is age based as is Hockey, Football and Baseball and the world's largest sport soccer. There is some AAU BB grade base and it is a big fat mess with many deciding that is not fair and refusing to play in grade based AAU. You holdback apologists are always attempting to make your son and his playing down ok.. its not
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Let me know how many age based basketball tournaments you can find on Tourney Machine.
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AAU basketball is grade based and has rampant age mismatching across brackets - far worse than what’s seen in lacrosse.
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Some are aged based. Majority are grade based, especially in our area. Go to any youth basketball tournament too on Tourney Machine. There are 16 year old 8th graders dunking on kids. No one will dare to call them "little Johnny" or "dense" to their face or parents face.
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nice of you to post only the rules for aged based events, but not the rules for grade events in AAU hoops Here's a link for rules for bot age and grade https://aauboysbasketball.org/Rules/Boys-Basketball-Eligibility One thing they do that lacrosse tournaments can and should can do is to but a birthday cap. Ie the mythical double holdback would not be allowed
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nice of you to post only the rules for aged based events, but not the rules for grade events in AAU hoops Here's a link for rules for bot age and grade https://aauboysbasketball.org/Rules/Boys-Basketball-Eligibility One thing they do that lacrosse tournaments can and should can do is to but a birthday cap. Ie the mythical double holdback would not be allowed The mythical double holdback? They don’t hold back twice. They start school later or do a pre first year. Then 1 holdback year. I guess that technically doesn’t make them a double holdback. Just almost two years older.
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Just checking in…yep. Still active posts. Most worthless thread on here. None of you will have any impact either way. Go spend some time with you boys. Me…imma hit the wall baby!!! I still have 4 years of eligibility left. I’m a 20 year holdback.
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You have no idea who you are actually talking to as this is an anonymous board so I will cut you a break lol. But just trust me I know what I’m talking about and you clearly do not. No harm no foul.
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You have no idea who you are actually talking to as this is an anonymous board so I will cut you a break lol. But just trust me I know what I’m talking about and you clearly do not. No harm no foul. The expert speaks out. AAU at the pure grade based level in youth is all but gone and has been a huge mess for years. Same issues as lacrosse. Most are going either strictly age based or grade with age restrictions. And yes, I know .. LOL .. Lacrosse is a niche sport that only keeps the facade of this huge amount of kids playing down by being a niche sport driven by private schools and clubs.
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Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of
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Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down."
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They have at least a few kids who were considered HS "juniors" last year, and are still enrolled at CH, but not participating in 2022 due to their...uhm...advanced age.
And they still have 120+ kids on their program roster. CH- where kids go to ride pine. It's not a bad strategy, really. Only play 22 kids on game day, but recruit as many kids as possible so they can't play against you in the future. Why would CH bring in kids their junior year with no eligibility their senior year? Doesn’t make sense. They recruited these holdbacks back in 8th grade. They have played for CH from freshmen- JR year. Now these kids have “aged out” and are too old to play in the MIAA as seniors.
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Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down." Is this the same stuff you tell little johnny when he asks about playing down against younger players than him?? Playing down is not in Football or AAU serious BB. Keep telling yourself and your son everyone is doing it, that always seems to work. LOL
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Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down." Is this the same stuff you tell little johnny when he asks about playing down against younger players than him?? Playing down is not in Football or AAU serious BB. Keep telling yourself and your son everyone is doing it, that always seems to work. LOL And you can stop lying to your son ‘again’ by telling him the reason he is the team “water boy” is NOT because he can’t complete against other boys who are bigger, stronger and faster than he is or ever will be. The truth hurts so cry me a river and stop lying to yourself and your son, little man.
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Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down." Is this the same stuff you tell little johnny when he asks about playing down against younger players than him?? Playing down is not in Football or AAU serious BB. Keep telling yourself and your son everyone is doing it, that always seems to work. LOL Are you even looking at the links being provided? Here is the Pop Warner football guidelines for age and weight. Ages can be up to 3 years apart. https://www.popwarner.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1476162
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They have at least a few kids who were considered HS "juniors" last year, and are still enrolled at CH, but not participating in 2022 due to their...uhm...advanced age.
And they still have 120+ kids on their program roster. CH- where kids go to ride pine. It's not a bad strategy, really. Only play 22 kids on game day, but recruit as many kids as possible so they can't play against you in the future. Why would CH bring in kids their junior year with no eligibility their senior year? Doesn’t make sense. They recruited these holdbacks back in 8th grade. They have played for CH from freshmen- JR year. Now these kids have “aged out” and are too old to play in the MIAA as seniors. So these kids ARE the mythical double holdbacks- 19 or 20 as high school seniors this spring. Pathetic.
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Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down." Is this the same stuff you tell little johnny when he asks about playing down against younger players than him?? Playing down is not in Football or AAU serious BB. Keep telling yourself and your son everyone is doing it, that always seems to work. LOL Are you even looking at the links being provided? Here is the Pop Warner football guidelines for age and weight. Ages can be up to 3 years apart. https://www.popwarner.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1476162You holdback apologists are always reaching for some reason to play little johnny down. Pathetic... Pop Warner rules are clear ...If you happen to be the oldest, YOU MUST be at minimum 20 lbs lighter than the other age groups......And remember , after being oldest in your age group in football, the next year you are youngest with the same thing each three years.... How hard is that to see ??? Frankly its pretty fair compared to lacrosse that is letting any age play down as long as he is in grade. What a difference than your little johnny playing down his ENTIRE youth lacrosse time ?? LOL.. Yea, thats the spirit play down against younger children. Any other lame excuses for playing down.
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You keep ranting other sports don't do it and they obviously do. Glad you finally admit it.
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Y Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down." Is this the same stuff you tell little johnny when he asks about playing down against younger players than him?? Playing down is not in Football or AAU serious BB. Keep telling yourself and your son everyone is doing it, that always seems to work. LOL Are you even looking at the links being provided? Here is the Pop Warner football guidelines for age and weight. Ages can be up to 3 years apart. https://www.popwarner.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1476162You holdback apologists are always reaching for some reason to play little johnny down. Pathetic... Pop Warner rules are clear ...If you happen to be the oldest, YOU MUST be at minimum 20 lbs lighter than the other age groups......And remember , after being oldest in your age group in football, the next year you are youngest with the same thing each three years.... How hard is that to see ??? Frankly its pretty fair compared to lacrosse that is letting any age play down as long as he is in grade. What a difference than your little johnny playing down his ENTIRE youth lacrosse time ?? LOL.. Yea, thats the spirit play down against younger children. Any other lame excuses for playing down. You have just debunked your own absurd argument. Can’t get much fooler than that. LoL But we are all sure you’ll try your best next time to reach a new low in cognitive dysfunction. What’s really sad is your kid has half your genes. ….but that’s probably a big maybe.
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Holding back is playing down. Everyone knows it. It's weak sauce.
That's why the parents who do it to their children deny it on the sidelines and defend it here.
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Holding back is playing down. Everyone knows it. It's weak sauce.
That's why the parents who do it to their children deny it on the sidelines and defend it here. Your clichés are as silly as your puerile nonsense. But keep it up ‘weak sauce’ it’s humorous to watch you make a fool of yourself and along with your untenable position.
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Holding back is playing down. Everyone knows it. It's weak sauce.
That's why the parents who do it to their children deny it on the sidelines and defend it here. What team does your son play for?
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Holding back is playing down. Everyone knows it. It's weak sauce.
That's why the parents who do it to their children deny it on the sidelines and defend it here. Your clichés are as silly as your puerile nonsense. But keep it up ‘weak sauce’ it’s humorous to watch you make a fool of yourself and along with your untenable position. Sure. Your attempt at big words and insults bely your deep seated insecurities about your decision to hold back your underperforming son. You know deep down that good athletes, those who will play at top D1 schools in college, don't need daddy to socially manipulate their athletics. If your son plays in college, it's probably gonna be D3 or MCLA for him. Which is fine. You've already been making excuses for holding back Sonny in middle school. You'll soon be regaling your friends about what a "hidden gem" Greensboro or Illinois Wesleyan is.
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Holding back is playing down. Everyone knows it. It's weak sauce.
That's why the parents who do it to their children deny it on the sidelines and defend it here. What team does your son play for? Weak Sauce...the weakest kind of sauce, like you and your boy
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Holding back is playing down. Everyone knows it. It's weak sauce.
That's why the parents who do it to their children deny it on the sidelines and defend it here. What team does your son play for? Weak Sauce...the weakest kind of sauce, like you and your boy What are you talking about? Are you ashamed to even talk about the club your son plays for?
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Holding back is playing down. Everyone knows it. It's weak sauce.
That's why the parents who do it to their children deny it on the sidelines and defend it here. What team does your son play for? Weak Sauce...the weakest kind of sauce, like you and your boy What are you talking about? Are you ashamed to even talk about the club your son plays for? Not at all. I have 3 kids. All on-age or playing up and having good experiences. 25 (on age- off the bench for 91 Fire), 28 (playing up for 27 Koopers) and 29 (playing up for 28 HLC).
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Y Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down." Is this the same stuff you tell little johnny when he asks about playing down against younger players than him?? Playing down is not in Football or AAU serious BB. Keep telling yourself and your son everyone is doing it, that always seems to work. LOL Are you even looking at the links being provided? Here is the Pop Warner football guidelines for age and weight. Ages can be up to 3 years apart. https://www.popwarner.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1476162You holdback apologists are always reaching for some reason to play little johnny down. Pathetic... Pop Warner rules are clear ...If you happen to be the oldest, YOU MUST be at minimum 20 lbs lighter than the other age groups......And remember , after being oldest in your age group in football, the next year you are youngest with the same thing each three years.... How hard is that to see ??? Frankly its pretty fair compared to lacrosse that is letting any age play down as long as he is in grade. What a difference than your little johnny playing down his ENTIRE youth lacrosse time ?? LOL.. Yea, thats the spirit play down against younger children. Any other lame excuses for playing down. You have just debunked your own absurd argument. Can’t get much fooler than that. LoL But we are all sure you’ll try your best next time to reach a new low in cognitive dysfunction. What’s really sad is your kid has half your genes. ….but that’s probably a big maybe. Reading comprehension must have missed you in school. Bet you were a holdback . LOL You got guilt oozing out of your words. It is Hilarious. Relax, your son plays down against other children.
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Y [quote=Anonymous]Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down." Is this the same stuff you tell little johnny when he asks about playing down against younger players than him?? Playing down is not in Football or AAU serious BB. Keep telling yourself and your son everyone is doing it, that always seems to work. LOL Are you even looking at the links being provided? Here is the Pop Warner football guidelines for age and weight. Ages can be up to 3 years apart. https://www.popwarner.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1476162You holdback apologists are always reaching for some reason to play little johnny down. Pathetic... Pop Warner rules are clear ...If you happen to be the oldest, YOU MUST be at minimum 20 lbs lighter than the other age groups......And remember , after being oldest in your age group in football, the next year you are youngest with the same thing each three years.... How hard is that to see ??? Frankly its pretty fair compared to lacrosse that is letting any age play down as long as he is in grade. What a difference than your little johnny playing down his ENTIRE youth lacrosse time ?? LOL.. Yea, thats the spirit play down against younger children. Any other lame excuses for playing down. You have just debunked your own absurd argument. Can’t get much fooler than that. LoL But we are all sure you’ll try your best next time to reach a new low in cognitive dysfunction. What’s really sad is your kid has half your genes. ….but that’s probably a big maybe. “Reading comprehension must have missed you…” Thank you for another of your silly memes, that makes no sense. But that’s what keeps us all laughing ‘at’ you. Hey did you get that DNA test yet for your kid Chubby? It might take that edge off your animosity towards little boys, little man.
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Holding back is playing down. Everyone knows it. It's weak sauce.
That's why the parents who do it to their children deny it on the sidelines and defend it here. What team does your son play for? Weak Sauce...the weakest kind of sauce, like you and your boy What are you talking about? Are you ashamed to even talk about the club your son plays for? Not at all. I have 3 kids. All on-age or playing up and having good experiences. 25 (on age- off the bench for 91 Fire), 28 (playing up for 27 Koopers) and 29 (playing up for 28 HLC). Essentially Rec level. Congrats.
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Give it up… you’re arguing about something you have no knowledge of Different poster but basketball has been moving more and more to class based. Here is the most recent AAU nationals with both age and class based divisions. https://aauboysbasketball.org/page.php?page_id=105579&pv=1Football has also moved to a combination of age and weight based divisions for years now. Older but lighter players play "down Is this the same stuff you tell little johnny when he asks about playing down against younger players than him?? Playing down is not in Football or AAU serious BB. Keep telling yourself and your son everyone is doing it, that always seems to work. LOL Are you even looking at the links being provided? Here is the Pop Warner football guidelines for age and weight. Ages can be up to 3 years apart. https://www.popwarner.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1476162You holdback apologists are always reaching for some reason to play little johnny down. Pathetic... Pop Warner rules are clear ...If you happen to be the oldest, YOU MUST be at minimum 20 lbs lighter than the other age groups......And remember , after being oldest in your age group in football, the next year you are youngest with the same thing each three years.... How hard is that to see ??? Frankly its pretty fair compared to lacrosse that is letting any age play down as long as he is in grade. What a difference than your little johnny playing down his ENTIRE youth lacrosse time ?? LOL.. Yea, thats the spirit play down against younger children. Any other lame excuses for playing down. You have just debunked your own absurd argument. Can’t get much fooler than that. LoL But we are all sure you’ll try your best next time to reach a new low in cognitive dysfunction. What’s really sad is your kid has half your genes. ….but that’s probably a big maybe. “Reading comprehension must have missed you…” Thank you for another of your silly memes, that makes no sense. But that’s what keeps us all laughing ‘at’ you. Hey did you get that DNA test yet for your kid Chubby? It might take that edge off your animosity towards little boys, little man. Look at you. All upset over a little truth telling. Relax Little Karen, just enjoy overage johnny being a superstar out there against those youngins. Got to be one proud Karen. LOL
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What’s the point of having your kid “play up” on third tier teams?
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Are you ashamed to even talk about the club your son plays for? Not at all. I have 3 kids. All on-age or playing up and having good experiences. 25 (on age- off the bench for 91 Fire), 28 (playing up for 27 Koopers) and 29 (playing up for 28 HLC). Essentially Rec level. Congrats. You think the #1 team in the nation and 2 AAA teams are “essentially rec level?” I hope this is sarcasm.
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