BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022

Yes two 2023’s committed today!!!!

Yes one to Marist and one to Siena

We've had 3 girls commit since the tournaments

Yes, just as 22’s committed this past summer. Things will be slow while the coaches are in season but there are still spots to be filled. Coaches will want to check the transfer portal after the season as well.

Stay optimistic, make sure all of the coaches at any school that your daughter would like to attend are very aware of her interest (don’t be a pain in the @$$ but stay in contact).

Schools will fill remaining spots over the next month and be done by end of January. Coaches want to be wrapped up when their season starts. They are in close touch with their remaining potential commits right now trying to make the right decisions.

Who’s we?

Is Siena a D1 program?

23's will continue to be recruited into next Fall - even D1 schools. 22's are still being recruited. There is no time line.

Yes - I think you would be capable enough to look that up yourself without having to ask

Yes

There are a couple athlete-specific incidents where schools are waiting for fall grades, but by and large it won't be a big number.

Performance in some camps and prospect days will be a bigger driver, especially towards some lower end D1 schools (MAC, Sun Belt, Big South)

There have been just about 700 D1 commits so far. When all is said and done there will be about 1100. Last year at this time there were about 600, so the pace has stayed a little faster this year.

To comments made before, schools like Siena, Xavier, Temple, St Josephs, New Hampshire, Elon, Mt St Marys, Arizona State, etc have been the schools getting recent commits.

When will the Inside Lacrosse rankings be released? Anyone know?

Traditionally they were released in September. I do not recall when they were put out last year but in 2019 and prior years it was definitely September.

What I do know is that whenever they are released the delusional parents will bash them.... "some real head scratchers" "so many more deserving players" "it's all political" "it's pay to play" "most of the players will disappear in college" "they are a joke" etc...

Is the ranking based solely on the IL experience or are there other factors involved?

If you pay money, do their events and "evaluated by their people" you make the list.

Sounds legit

I believe they also look at UA, and this year, AS performance, HS stats, and college commitment. List is not perfect, but most of the girls will go on to be big contributors on their college teams.

I do not believe HS has anything to do with it … don’t think college commitment has anything to do with it either,

These are the top 20 girls in the class:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/girls?year=2023&position=all

There you have it, the ever present knock in an attempt to discredit and or diminish the rankings.

its not a knock. that is the truth. you have to do the IL, UA or AS camps and tournaments to get on these lists. They do not go around and watch club tournaments to see the girls play. The UA senior game is selected from only girls who have played in the UA underclass games. You could be the best player in the country but if you do not play in the UA underclass games you are not getting on the watch list or even selected. Pay to Play.

Interesting, only 5 girls from LI

Why is that interesting?

How many did you expect?

This is an honest statement & I don’t know why people don’t know or understand it!

The original post states: "If you pay money, do their events and "evaluated by their people" you make the list". That is not accurate or true at all, several hundred athletes participate in those events... I believe Inside Lacrosse usually ranks 40 players so no, just because you do the events and get evaluated you do not make the list.

In the past, (I do not know about now) they absolutely watched the best club tournaments and the UA Underclass games...

I know many on here love to cry politics at every turn but UA usually does a very good job with the underclass selection process on The Island. We always here the same nonsense so many deserving players... Where are they? They take a roster of I believe 24 players, how many legit top tier caliber players from a given grad year are on Long Island? Some legit players are over looked for whatever reason but it is a small number.

Probably a few more. A couple other Jesters and Legacy, TG and YJ as well probably deserved to be on there.

It is not the truth. Players do not make the list because they pay money.

How many players from long Island try out for UA Underclass Teams every year? 150? 200? How many of the best players from Long Island do not tryout? Not many, i'm guessing single digits. How many of the best players do not get selected? Again, I'm guessing single digits. The vast majority of the best players in the country participate in the events that you mentioned. The Under Armour Underclass Tournament has always been the most competitive HS Tournament around and most of the top players from around the country have participated in it. Unfortunately, lacrosse (like most sports) requires a significant financial investment that said, simply paying to play does not get a player recognized.

Really, so you actually believe that let’s say 10 or so of The Top 20 players in the country are from Long Island? You are obviously delusional.

Only the best 23s made it. The LI girls on the list meet that standard. They are the best. The others are good to very good but did not meet that standard.

Half of the girls on the top 20 list did not play in UA, they played AS. Three didn’t play UA or AS. Don’t see your point?

I assume that you are responding to the original post that stated … “If you pay money, do their events and "evaluated by their people" you make the list.”

That post illustrates how delusional some people are….

Last year LI only had 2, so this was a strong year!

Last year LI only had 2, so this was a strong year![/quote]

Don’t get caught up in the ratings. Work your butt off and prove the doubters wrong.

5 is actually a surprisingly high number and very impressive to say the least. Congratulations to the young women who were recognized, what a terrific achievement.

Steady stream on commitment ts still happening. Lots of girls settling into the lower level DI programs. Hoping everyone finds there home. Some reclassing happening too.

Looks like Rachel Hall's sister...2023...committed to BC today.

Didn’t know she had a sister. What club does she play for?