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What is the true issue with teams having holdbacks? Is it that the opposing teams are unable to compete? Are people concerned their child loses time in the spotlight?

If your child is good, playing against/with holdbacks seems to facilitate the younger players development at a faster rate.

Holder and out of town players? Every one of our kids is from the immediate Bethesda McLean and DC pocket. There’s one kid that comes from Richmond area. That is it. Team has not changed one iota in three years with the exception of a new kid from Fairfax Virginia.Unlike the Hawks who pull from about 100 mile radius. But whatever, we smoked you last time out and that’s all we have to go on at this point. Untill next time Amigo!

“We” - I guess the 13yr old is posting now. Happy thanksgiving little man.

Man. I’ve really missed this thread. Y’all are seriously not normal humans. So glad I moved my kid down to his actual graduation class. 🤣

Holder and out of town players? Every one of our kids is from the immediate Bethesda McLean and DC pocket. There’s one kid that comes from Richmond area. That is it. Team has not changed one iota in three years with the exception of a new kid from Fairfax Virginia.Unlike the Hawks who pull from about 100 mile radius. But whatever, we smoked you last time out and that’s all we have to go on at this point. Untill next time Amigo!

If your kid cannot compete with the holdbacks, he won’t compete in high school. Maybe when he’s a senior, otherwise he is riding the Pine.

Thanks hold back daddy we missed you !

Sixes was a lot of fun. Very little defense and lots of scoring. Well run for the first year and the 28s had a great turnout. A big positive was the kids just got to play, no club uniforms, mostly mixed rosters. Also limited coaching, no set offense and it looked at times like a neighborhood pickup game. With 4 fast games and getting home to catch most of the nfl games, what’s not to like? This format is a joke for the Olympics but for 6th graders and younger, it is a breath of fresh air.

Man. I’ve really missed this thread. Y’all are seriously not normal humans. So glad I moved my kid down to his actual graduation class. 🤣

Uhhh… my kid already competes with older kids because he’s on age! Your kid can’t so you held him back. So who won’t be able to compete in HS? What are you going to do when he’s on the 3rd team as a junior? Hold him back again?

Your logic is the worst.

If your kid cannot compete with the holdbacks, he won’t compete in high school. Maybe when he’s a senior, otherwise he is riding the Pine.

He might be bigger than you, Amigo

He might be bigger than you, Amigo

Your kid literally could not compete with kids his own age!
Try again.

Your kid literally could not compete with kids his own age!
Try again.

Uhhh… my kid already competes with older kids because he’s on age! Your kid can’t so you held him back. So who won’t be able to compete in HS? What are you going to do when he’s on the 3rd team as a junior? Hold him back again?

Your logic is the worst.

Agreed this posters logic is way off!

In HS it’s understood that your child plays vs different ages and grades and ages. Grade based / aged based play especially at the youth level is totally different. Better luck next time!

Didn’t assume a Hawks dad could calculate through the logic, so here it goes:

Your wunderkind who is playing on-age, and getting run over by the holdbacks (otherwise you wouldn’t be complaining), will never sniff the turf in HS until he’s a Senior, when he’s playing kids ranging from only one year older to 2 years younger. His first 3 years he’s playing against these God-forsaken holdbacks that are 4, 3, 2 years older than your little Johnny. Best of luck with that. But keep complaining, maybe you’ll find lots of sympathy from the other dads whose kids are on age (guess what— mine is not only on-age, but a very young on-age kid, not because I’m some virtuoso against the holdback thing, I just planned poorly, I suppose).

Get over the holdback thing— it’s not changing, it’s the way it is. If your kid is on age and playing competitively in Elite 2028, congratulations, he has beaten the odds and might see the field by his Junior year.

Or when the on age kid catches up on the maturity scale they will actually be in a better position to succeed given they have had to play vs older kids their entire life. Meanwhile, holdback boy won’t be the bigger kid anymore and struggle.

Or when the on age kid catches up on the maturity scale they will actually be in a better position to succeed given they have had to play vs older kids their entire life. Meanwhile, holdback boy won’t be the bigger kid anymore and struggle.

Madlax down to #3 in the latest US Club Lax rankings. Happy Thanksgiving!!!!

So the big kid who is held back will struggle because he’s been playing against inferior competition all his life? That is your logic? Good luck with that pal. I hope you’re right because my kid is not only on age, but young. Nothing I can do about it at this point, he loves the kid + his team and I’m not holding him back. He just has to work a little harder.

Happy Thanksgiving Cabel!

So the big kid who is held back will struggle because he’s been playing against inferior competition all his life? That is your logic? Good luck with that pal. I hope you’re right because my kid is not only on age, but young. Nothing I can do about it at this point, he loves the kid + his team and I’m not holding him back. He just has to work a little harder.

Didn’t assume a Hawks dad could calculate through the logic, so here it goes:

Your wunderkind who is playing on-age, and getting run over by the holdbacks (otherwise you wouldn’t be complaining), will never sniff the turf in HS until he’s a Senior, when he’s playing kids ranging from only one year older to 2 years younger. His first 3 years he’s playing against these God-forsaken holdbacks that are 4, 3, 2 years older than your little Johnny. Best of luck with that. But keep complaining, maybe you’ll find lots of sympathy from the other dads whose kids are on age (guess what— mine is not only on-age, but a very young on-age kid, not because I’m some virtuoso against the holdback thing, I just planned poorly, I suppose).

Get over the holdback thing— it’s not changing, it’s the way it is. If your kid is on age and playing competitively in Elite 2028, congratulations, he has beaten the odds and might see the field by his Junior year.

Or when the on age kid catches up on the maturity scale they will actually be in a better position to succeed given they have had to play vs older kids their entire life. Meanwhile, holdback boy won’t be the bigger kid anymore and struggle.

So the big kid who is held back will struggle because he’s been playing against inferior competition all his life? That is your logic? Good luck with that pal. I hope you’re right because my kid is not only on age, but young. Nothing I can do about it at this point, he loves the kid + his team and I’m not holding him back. He just has to work a little harder.

Honestly (not trolling) I think the general assessment from the last 5 years of MIAA kids is that double-holdback kids tend to peak at about age 17, which is ideal for recruiting obviously, but then settle into obscurity at their top-10 college roster where everyone else is as good as they are, or better. This is still a pretty fabulous outcome for a young man (scholarships, part of an elite lax unit at college, probably getting a great education and network) but no, in fact, the 24 year olds don't *usually* shine so bright in college.

Has COVID aging (thinking of the 26 year old at UNC) upended that? Maybe. With more and more blue chip athletes going to "free" community college or prep school before using their 1st year of D1 eligibility these days, maybe this pattern gets disrupted and the older kids do come out on top again. But not yet.

Were the Apex Youth games worth it this summer? Seemed like a lot of money for a weekend?

Any feedback from parents whose kids went?

ML dad. Changing the subject because the hold back talk needs to be on another thread. I said after summer NAL and then NLF that Express North was legit and got laughed at. That team is very good. While we were short handed at Fall NAL (not sure it would have mattered tho) they are, IMO, the best 2028 team. Big, well coached and athletic. It's an entirely different team from summer. Excited to play them in FL in Jan.

Hawks will roll that team, also Express North is FULL of holdbacks. First clue— BIG and a athletic.

Hawks dad here - this is not a Hawks dad who posted above. I’m sure Express North will be tough given their scores. Hope our boys play them and it’s a good game. Everyone have a safe winter.

Stop acting Hawkward and get with the rest of Hawks parents. Hawks Roll !

Cabel is the REAL Turkey in the lacrosse world

I'm not a ML parent, but the fact that you posted here on Thanksgiving day tells me that Cabel is living rent-free deep, deep in your head.

Yes you are.

I'm not, but you can choose to believe it or not. Either way, it doesn't chance the fact that someone logged on to check an anonymous 6th grade lax forum on Thanksgiving, which is pathetic.