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Coaches also recruit kids whose parents have deep pockets and Legacy. C'mon, have you seen some of those recruited girls play? Teams do recruit some girls as practice players.

Coaches also recruit kids whose parents have deep pockets and Legacy. C'mon, have you seen some of those recruited girls play? Teams do recruit some girls as practice players.

More excuses….. it never ends. Some just can not believe that a coach believes that other players are stronger than their daughter.

Not an excuse. It's an observation. My daughter visited and was offered by three Ivies. It's what we saw. She ultimately committed to a non Ivy top 20 with a more robust lacrosse program.

Not an excuse. It's an observation. My daughter visited and was offered by three Ivies. It's what we saw. She ultimately committed to a non Ivy top 20 with a more robust lacrosse program.

Are you responding to a particular post? Who are you talking to? Who assumes?

Never the less, I will play along. The vast majority of the best players, i.e. the top 50 - 75 (IL Top 40, Under Armour AA caliber players) consistently choose to go to one of the perineal Top 10 -20 programs. Academics is obviously a big part of the equation as just about all of these programs are excellent academic institutions.

IMHO most would agree that it is not always where a player commits that indicates where the player stands but rather what schools made offers. If North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern and Syracuse are offering I am sure she is an excellent player regardless of where she chooses to go to school. However, The reality is that the best players are offered spots by several of the best college programs and in most cases they choose to attend one those programs.


Boston College
Maryland
North Carolina
Northwestern
Syracuse
Princeton
Virginia
Florida
Stony Brook
Penn
Notre Dame
Duke
Penn State
USC
JMU
Stanford
Hopkins
Loyola

Although the above are not equal, they do outperform the the other 100 or so programs on a consistent basis. As the sport continues to grow I'm sure we will see a few more programs compete with the above on a regular basis (who those programs will be is anyones guess). High caliber players can usually find the right fit at one of the schools listed above.

Not promoting any schools or programs and not knocking any schools or programs. Just pointing out the obvious, the best programs are the best because they get the majority of the best players.

2021 FINAL IWLCA Division I Coaches Poll – June 1, 2021


Boston College captured the program’s first national title, defeating top seeded North Carolina, 11-10 in the semifinals, and Syracuse, 16-10, in the NCAA Championship match, to lay claim to the top-ranking in the final Division I Coaches Poll of the 2021 season. The Eagles (18-3) collected all 25 first place votes, and are followed by Syracuse (17-4), North Carolina (20-1), Northwestern (15-1), and Stony Brook (16-3) to round out the top five. Temple, UConn, and Towson all entered the rankings for the final poll of 2021.


1 Boston College

2 Syracuse

3 North Carolina

4 Northwestern

5 Stony Brook

6 Notre Dame

7 Florida

8 Duke

9 Loyola Maryland

10 Maryland

11 Virginia

12 James Madison

13 Denver

14 Rutgers

15 Drexel

16 Stanford

17 Johns Hopkins

18 Jacksonville

19 Temple

20 Massachusetts

21 UConn

22 Towson

T-23 Hofstra

T-23 Penn State

25 Louisville

You can't lump all Ivy's (or schools from any conference) together. That being said, if you daughter had offers from some Ivy's I am sure that you are aware of how the Academic Index works. If an Ivy's top recruits are at the lower end of the Index the coach will have to bring in recruits that are at the higher end of the Index in order to balance out the index average. Those recruits may not be high end lacrosse players but they will have crazy high grades and test scores. It has nothin to do with $$ or being a legacy, it has to do with their Index score. Other high end Academic schools have different ways to get players into school, Duke has a certain number of "slots" that they can use to bring in players with grades below the normal admission standards. Northwestern can bring in whoever they want, every school is different but the bottom line is that the top recruits do not have to have the same grades as the recruits with less lacrosse / athletic ability.
Not all recruits at Ivy's (or any conference) are equal, there is a wide range at individual schools and their is a wide range throughout the conference.

Very accurate and informative post. I'll just add that Northwestern can't bring in anyone they want, but their standards are well below any of the other more academic schools or even top publics (UVA, UNC, Michigan).

That said, they won't admit someone with a 2.5 GPA and 950 SAT. (not that she would be able to keep up at the school).

Interesting to see how the coaches rank the programs.

2021 FINAL IWLCA Division I Coaches Poll – June 1, 2021


Boston College captured the program’s first national title, defeating top seeded North Carolina, 11-10 in the semifinals, and Syracuse, 16-10, in the NCAA Championship match, to lay claim to the top-ranking in the final Division I Coaches Poll of the 2021 season. The Eagles (18-3) collected all 25 first place votes, and are followed by Syracuse (17-4), North Carolina (20-1), Northwestern (15-1), and Stony Brook (16-3) to round out the top five. Temple, UConn, and Towson all entered the rankings for the final poll of 2021.


1 Boston College

2 Syracuse

3 North Carolina

4 Northwestern

5 Stony Brook

6 Notre Dame

7 Florida

8 Duke

9 Loyola Maryland

10 Maryland

11 Virginia

12 James Madison

13 Denver

14 Rutgers

15 Drexel

16 Stanford

17 Johns Hopkins

18 Jacksonville

19 Temple

20 Massachusetts

21 UConn

22 Towson

T-23 Hofstra

T-23 Penn State

25 Louisville

Wow, Florida filled up fast! Still alot of openings for the remaing top girls to land. Very exciting time for these talented girls....(and stressful!)

I do not think that there are too many spots remaining at the top programs. Coaches will hold some spots until they see who enters the portal next May-June.

Florida filled up no faster than any other top program. They did not get the top recruits either.

Florida filled up no faster than any other top program. They did not get the top recruits either.

2023 commits per LaxBytes, just for those of you who may be interested in such things:

1 Boston College 4
2 Syracuse 6
3 North Carolina 7
4 Northwestern 3
5 Stony Brook 4

6 Notre Dame 3
7 Florida 10
8 Duke 5
9 Loyola Maryland 5
10 Maryland 5

11 Virginia 7
12 James Madison 4
13 Denver 6
14 Rutgers 5
15 Drexel 1

16 Stanford 5
17 Johns Hopkins 2
18 Jacksonville 4
19 Temple 0
20 Massachusetts 4

21 UConn 2
22 Towson 1
T-23 Hofstra 1
T-23 Penn State 5
25 Louisville 5

Florida actually has one more in the class who hasn't posted to social yet. Bringing them to 11

Florida filled a huge class very quickly. So far, biggest class in the country. Supposedly a roster of 50.

Florida filled a huge class very quickly. So far, biggest class in the country. Supposedly a roster of 50.

Looks like the Syracuse mentality of carrying 50 girls has made its way down south. Not everyone will dress and travel with the team for away games.

Looking for opinions on the Inside Lacrosse ID Experience coming up in October. It is the first year for the girls, so hopefully some of you have had boys participate in the past. It is supposedly an invite only event, but that could just be how they are selling it. My daughter is already committed, but it might be good to get evaluated and play against the top tier talent that they are advertising.

I know a girl who came out of HS as a top player who is a Jr there. She has only played in a handful of blowouts. Says way too many girls on the team.

Looks like a lot of committed players. You just need to get a coach to submit a recommendation. If she's committed, she will get an invite.

She already got the invite, just wondering if it is worth the time and money.

She already got the invite, just wondering if it is worth the time and money.

I'd love to see a breakdown of the non-hotbed commits. The number seems to be growing. Florida, Colorado, Texas, Oregon, Ohio, Georgia. would you put New Hampshire in there? lots of Tomahawks committing. Doesn't seem to be a ton of California girls this year.

Florida has 10 commits according to Laxbytes. 7 in the 2022 class. Not 50 but close 43 girls on the current roster. I guess 43 is getting back to a normal size roster for some.

It will be another day of lacrosse and probably fun with the pressure off. However, it's the same girls my daughter has seen at so many other events, UA, AS, NTDP, Elite 8...now that she is committed, feels good to pass on a money grab. Also, have seen so many injuries over the past year, just not worth it in my opinion.

Not to be snarky but if your going to give facts give all the facts. UF roster has 43 current players - 9 seniors and 14 juniors. Thats a lot of graduating players over next 2 years that need to be replaced.