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If you switch clubs after you commit, you eat your down payment. I’ve never heard of anyone getting a refund…ever.

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.

They have the best model. Everyone makes a team. No cuts. Grazzy new girls in for a rude awakening traveling to DE turf for 3 games in Nov.

Best model to make a profit. 25 kids on a roster where you're playing games with 18 -22 minutes in a half = not much playing time for any kid.

Best roster size is 20...... 2 middie lines, 6 attack 6 defense and 2 goalies..

True. Especially since colleges are only taking 3-4 recruits from the latest classes, not the traditional 9-10. Money grab.

100%

There will be plenty of playing time for the starters. The issue is the big bench. They will have little or no playing time.

In perfect world, yes, but this doesn't leave a lot of room for injuries or multi sport athletes missing a fall tournament.

Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.

Piscitelli is the C/Nassau Team. It looks like only a couple girls were moved up. Any girl that is highlighted is someone who was not a YJ last year.

Well the daddy and mommy are now the head coach and assistant and grazzy demoted to goalie coach? Lol. Sux for all those that kissed his Meanyand paid for those privates.

Hopefully daddy & Mommy make some changes, also can't believe he is still sticking around to be a goalie coach, how insulting is that.

Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

Doesn’t seem to have deterred people from going to yellow jackets. Picking up 22 girls is a lot. Have any of the other clubs picked up that many? None have 3 teams. And some of the other teams seem to have very tight rosters and their B teams are on life support. Not a YJ parent but people seem to want to flock there. Looking at the numbers for the year up they didn’t seem to take as many new girls. Wonder why this age is so hot.

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.

Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.

There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.

Before you go jumping on the Leonard band wagon. Find out why she was fired from Mount Sinai? I mean she brought them to the finals and out of nowhere gone after they lost…… Ohhhh don’t forget how she left the 2027 Team 91 girls team in shambles giving them a few hours notice before she bolted for YJ 2027 tryouts. Quality coaching at its best….. Team Grazzy all the way!

sounds like she'll fit right in over there

Mommyball at its finest then. Sounds like she went where it was best for her kid, regardless of the impact on the team. Other parents should beware.

Quality and Grazzy should not be in the same sentence.

As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

You can see the rankings/record here for last year....https://www.USCL.com/rank?y=2020&alpha=N&v=2027

I wouldn’t base my decision on an organization solely based on wins and losses. There was a lot of movement this year so some of the teams that are on that list will get better & some will be worse and teams that aren’t on the list yet may make it this year. Take everything on this page with a grain of salt. Lots of smack talk and disgruntled parents. Invest time in going to see some games. Talk to parents with kids on the team. Being a bench player on an A team isn’t worth the time and money. Being on a B team isn’t always bad. You want your kid to get better year over year and get time on the field. YJ has some strong teams. But at what cost? They seem to only play their top 14 or so and carry 24 on a roster. FLG is the same. Sure they both win a lot but half the team sits. Liberty was next in the ranks but lost a lot of top talent this year because of nonsense that went on. Empire and Elevate added talent because people have had enough of the nonsense in other organizations. Jesters has 3 teams. 2 which some will say aren’t competitive and are straight money grabs. S2S is new to the arena but went from 1 2027 team to 2. They added some solid coaches and seem to be up and coming. Pick what fits your kid and your lifestyle. Is she a 1 sport kid? Does she want to be at lax practice 4 days a week? Do you want to pay extra for “voluntary” practices. Are you ok with tournaments away every weekend in the summer? Do the research.

I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Anyone know what happened to the YJ B team player whose Dad is a cop, crazy on the sidelines? Looks like they are not on the new YJ rosters. Wonder if the Dad had anything to do with that or they left voluntarily?

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

FLG carries 18 and they all play and play multiple positions.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

Maybe but the point is you now have the north shore and manhasset varsity coaches there. If you don’t think that’s going to draw those girls in you are crazy. But time will tell right? Seems like every year is going to be the year of a lot of kids moving and that always seems to fall apart. Obviously still multiple yj teams and flg navy. The rest will play itself out.

S2S will be mediocre for years. you kind of need a superteam to make a splash. they had that on the boys side and it attracted a lot of kids. Girls.....let's hope that its not just a money grab and their kids actually improve.

How many boys clubs have been able to build a top notch girls program that got girls recruited into top schools? Express? FLG? 91? Girls teams are a total money grab for these clubs, hs coach or not.

Volume does not equal quality. You have to look at the level of the play and what kind of girls they’re drawing in. I know a large number of them never played club or lax for that matter. That doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable opp for those girls. But it won’t be a legit club for a while, if it gets there.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.