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I don’t understand the hold back BS on these boards. Your sons will always be playing with and against kids older and younger once they’re in HS or College.The sooner you get use to it the better. We are talking about at the youth ages and developmental ages up until HS! Should be more fair during those years! One of the early MIAA holdback adopters was BL. Once King Crab set-up his shop @ BL the culture moved over to his club. He has always been a big proponent of trying to have more older kids on his teams than the competition he plays. He will take the older kids at any age. This began years before the MIAA was even in existence. The school on Lake Ave used to have the reputation for being a soft landing spot for anyone who had academic or behavior issues or got kicked out of other local privates. In order to ensure the kid was up to speed, (and get their tuition money's worth) BL admissions would ask those kids to repeat a grade. BL flourished and often had good lax teams. The trend continued. holdbacks then became a more popular "thing." At BL and elsewhere. Oh yea it goes back to the MSA(pre-1994) days. Boys who got kicked out of Loyola & CHC for various reasons headed over to BL to be "reformed". Shriver & the faculty saw this as an opportunity to repeat a year to get things back on track whether it was needed or not as well as have lax players that were older and more experienced. Then it became part of the culture as the Crabs program began to flourish. Soon it was part of the school's culture and 7th & 8th graders were brought into the holdback picture. This started BL's dominance. The MSA/MIAA allowed them to play lax in the "A" conference, while they also allowed them to play other sports in the B conference-a discussion for another day. Somebody should interview Shriver & King Crab about their role in this whole evolution of the lax holdback. Another factor at BL is that they're probably the best school in town for kids with learning disabilities aside from Jemicy and have been for years. Before ADD/ADHD became very common, they took lots of kids with dislexia and did wonders. A lot of kids with learning disabilities take an extra year at some point, completely unrelated to athletics.
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I don’t understand the hold back BS on these boards. Your sons will always be playing with and against kids older and younger once they’re in HS or College.The sooner you get use to it the better. We are talking about at the youth ages and developmental ages up until HS! Should be more fair during those years! One of the early MIAA holdback adopters was BL. Once King Crab set-up his shop @ BL the culture moved over to his club. He has always been a big proponent of trying to have more older kids on his teams than the competition he plays. He will take the older kids at any age. This began years before the MIAA was even in existence. The school on Lake Ave used to have the reputation for being a soft landing spot for anyone who had academic or behavior issues or got kicked out of other local privates. In order to ensure the kid was up to speed, (and get their tuition money's worth) BL admissions would ask those kids to repeat a grade. BL flourished and often had good lax teams. The trend continued. holdbacks then became a more popular "thing." At BL and elsewhere. Oh yea it goes back to the MSA(pre-1994) days. Boys who got kicked out of Loyola & CHC for various reasons headed over to BL to be "reformed". Shriver & the faculty saw this as an opportunity to repeat a year to get things back on track whether it was needed or not as well as have lax players that were older and more experienced. Then it became part of the culture as the Crabs program began to flourish. Soon it was part of the school's culture and 7th & 8th graders were brought into the holdback picture. This started BL's dominance. The MSA/MIAA allowed them to play lax in the "A" conference, while they also allowed them to play other sports in the B conference-a discussion for another day. Somebody should interview Shriver & King Crab about their role in this whole evolution of the lax holdback. Another factor at BL is that they're probably the best school in town for kids with learning disabilities aside from Jemicy and have been for years. Before ADD/ADHD became very common, they took lots of kids with dislexia and did wonders. A lot of kids with learning disabilities take an extra year at some point, completely unrelated to athletics. I don’t understand the hold back BS on these boards. Your sons will always be playing with and against kids older and younger once they’re in HS or College.The sooner you get use to it the better. We are talking about at the youth ages and developmental ages up until HS! Should be more fair during those years! One of the early MIAA holdback adopters was BL. Once King Crab set-up his shop @ BL the culture moved over to his club. He has always been a big proponent of trying to have more older kids on his teams than the competition he plays. He will take the older kids at any age. This began years before the MIAA was even in existence. The school on Lake Ave used to have the reputation for being a soft landing spot for anyone who had academic or behavior issues or got kicked out of other local privates. In order to ensure the kid was up to speed, (and get their tuition money's worth) BL admissions would ask those kids to repeat a grade. BL flourished and often had good lax teams. The trend continued. holdbacks then became a more popular "thing." At BL and elsewhere. Oh yea it goes back to the MSA(pre-1994) days. Boys who got kicked out of Loyola & CHC for various reasons headed over to BL to be "reformed". Shriver & the faculty saw this as an opportunity to repeat a year to get things back on track whether it was needed or not as well as have lax players that were older and more experienced. Then it became part of the culture as the Crabs program began to flourish. Soon it was part of the school's culture and 7th & 8th graders were brought into the holdback picture. This started BL's dominance. The MSA/MIAA allowed them to play lax in the "A" conference, while they also allowed them to play other sports in the B conference-a discussion for another day. Somebody should interview Shriver & King Crab about their role in this whole evolution of the lax holdback. Last time I checked, there were several schools that play lax in the MIAA A and have other sports in the B. A few years ago I believe only Loyola, Calvert Hall and maybe MSJ had all A Conf. sports. Gilman had B conference teams for a long time.
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I don’t understand the hold back BS on these boards. Your sons will always be playing with and against kids older and younger once they’re in HS or College.The sooner you get use to it the better. We are talking about at the youth ages and developmental ages up until HS! Should be more fair during those years! One of the early MIAA holdback adopters was BL. Once King Crab set-up his shop @ BL the culture moved over to his club. He has always been a big proponent of trying to have more older kids on his teams than the competition he plays. He will take the older kids at any age. This began years before the MIAA was even in existence. The school on Lake Ave used to have the reputation for being a soft landing spot for anyone who had academic or behavior issues or got kicked out of other local privates. In order to ensure the kid was up to speed, (and get their tuition money's worth) BL admissions would ask those kids to repeat a grade. BL flourished and often had good lax teams. The trend continued. holdbacks then became a more popular "thing." At BL and elsewhere. Oh yea it goes back to the MSA(pre-1994) days. Boys who got kicked out of Loyola & CHC for various reasons headed over to BL to be "reformed". Shriver & the faculty saw this as an opportunity to repeat a year to get things back on track whether it was needed or not as well as have lax players that were older and more experienced. Then it became part of the culture as the Crabs program began to flourish. Soon it was part of the school's culture and 7th & 8th graders were brought into the holdback picture. This started BL's dominance. The MSA/MIAA allowed them to play lax in the "A" conference, while they also allowed them to play other sports in the B conference-a discussion for another day. Somebody should interview Shriver & King Crab about their role in this whole evolution of the lax holdback. Another factor at BL is that they're probably the best school in town for kids with learning disabilities aside from Jemicy and have been for years. Before ADD/ADHD became very common, they took lots of kids with dislexia and did wonders. A lot of kids with learning disabilities take an extra year at some point, completely unrelated to athletics. I don’t understand the hold back BS on these boards. Your sons will always be playing with and against kids older and younger once they’re in HS or College.The sooner you get use to it the better. We are talking about at the youth ages and developmental ages up until HS! Should be more fair during those years! One of the early MIAA holdback adopters was BL. Once King Crab set-up his shop @ BL the culture moved over to his club. He has always been a big proponent of trying to have more older kids on his teams than the competition he plays. He will take the older kids at any age. This began years before the MIAA was even in existence. The school on Lake Ave used to have the reputation for being a soft landing spot for anyone who had academic or behavior issues or got kicked out of other local privates. In order to ensure the kid was up to speed, (and get their tuition money's worth) BL admissions would ask those kids to repeat a grade. BL flourished and often had good lax teams. The trend continued. holdbacks then became a more popular "thing." At BL and elsewhere. Oh yea it goes back to the MSA(pre-1994) days. Boys who got kicked out of Loyola & CHC for various reasons headed over to BL to be "reformed". Shriver & the faculty saw this as an opportunity to repeat a year to get things back on track whether it was needed or not as well as have lax players that were older and more experienced. Then it became part of the culture as the Crabs program began to flourish. Soon it was part of the school's culture and 7th & 8th graders were brought into the holdback picture. This started BL's dominance. The MSA/MIAA allowed them to play lax in the "A" conference, while they also allowed them to play other sports in the B conference-a discussion for another day. Somebody should interview Shriver & King Crab about their role in this whole evolution of the lax holdback. Last time I checked, there were several schools that play lax in the MIAA A and have other sports in the B. A few years ago I believe only Loyola, Calvert Hall and maybe MSJ had all A Conf. sports. Gilman had B conference teams for a long time. There are several other schools that have teams mixed between A & B. Figure out where you want to be and who you want to serve and attempt to raise your game to the A or drop to to B. Don't heavily recruit/develop for one or two sports while leaving the other ones out to dry... It would probably lead to a higher participation rate among the student body as well. This line of thought of course does not serve the the narrow minded thinking of some of the brass at the schools that are not all A or all B or their alumni.
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It's just MSJ and CH now.
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There are several other schools that have teams mixed between A & B. Figure out where you want to be and who you want to serve and attempt to raise your game to the A or drop to to B. Don't heavily recruit/develop for one or two sports while leaving the other ones out to dry... It would probably lead to a higher participation rate among the student body as well. This line of thought of course does not serve the the narrow minded thinking of some of the brass at the schools that are not all A or all B or their alumni. Easier said than done. The resources/recruiting needed to go "A" in football is too great.
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There are several other schools that have teams mixed between A & B. Figure out where you want to be and who you want to serve and attempt to raise your game to the A or drop to to B. Don't heavily recruit/develop for one or two sports while leaving the other ones out to dry... It would probably lead to a higher participation rate among the student body as well. This line of thought of course does not serve the the narrow minded thinking of some of the brass at the schools that are not all A or all B or their alumni. Easier said than done. The resources/recruiting needed to go "A" in football is too great. "A" Football takes too many true Athletic players to compete. While a few lacrosse players easily can play at A, the majority of players couldnt.
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There are several other schools that have teams mixed between A & B. Figure out where you want to be and who you want to serve and attempt to raise your game to the A or drop to to B. Don't heavily recruit/develop for one or two sports while leaving the other ones out to dry... It would probably lead to a higher participation rate among the student body as well. This line of thought of course does not serve the the narrow minded thinking of some of the brass at the schools that are not all A or all B or their alumni. Easier said than done. The resources/recruiting needed to go "A" in football is too great. "A" Football takes too many true Athletic players to compete. While a few lacrosse players easily can play at A, the majority of players couldnt. Truth.
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It has never been a BL thing…. It’s all private schools and it’s been this way since most private schools starting accepting students. The entry ( first grade or now ore first) age has always been later then public schools so if you enter at one of the later grades the school asks you to “hold back” to be at age with the others.
Was it developed for the elitist ? Of course!! Today they refer to these schools as “elite private schools”
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What teams at Gilman are B conference. Gilman won the most MIAA school in the league. All A conference.
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It's just MSJ and CH now. MSJ, CHC, McD, Spalding & Gilman are the only "A" Conference schools across the board in all sports. Some of them are larger schools, some are smaller and some are co-ed etc... Congrats to those schools for competing year in and year out while sometimes taking their lumps against schools that specialize in a particular sport while playing A conference. LB is just about there except for football. They will probably return soon as the program gets rebuilt.
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It's just MSJ and CH now. MSJ, CHC, McD, Spalding & Gilman are the only "A" Conference schools across the board in all sports. Some of them are larger schools, some are smaller and some are co-ed etc... Congrats to those schools for competing year in and year out while sometimes taking their lumps against schools that specialize in a particular sport while playing A conference. LB is just about there except for football. They will probably return soon as the program gets rebuilt. In all fairness, its been over a decade that LB has been "rebuilding" its football program. This is not a $$ or admissions standards issue: purely bad management and a lack of accountability, if in fact they want to complete in the A Conference. They went from winning the Conference to dropping out of the MIAA to become independent to rejoining as a B team. Sound and fury signifying nothing.
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It's just MSJ and CH now. MSJ, CHC, McD, Spalding & Gilman are the only "A" Conference schools across the board in all sports. Some of them are larger schools, some are smaller and some are co-ed etc... Congrats to those schools for competing year in and year out while sometimes taking their lumps against schools that specialize in a particular sport while playing A conference. LB is just about there except for football. They will probably return soon as the program gets rebuilt. It s much easier to go A in all sports when you are a single sex school with large enrollment. CH and Loyola should be in the A in all sports, just demographically speaking. Spalding is not A across the board in all sports. Definitely still B in Tennis, and possibly others. Also positive that Gilman is B in Ice Hockey. There is also talk that McDonough is dropping to the B for baseball and possibly golf this year.
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It's just MSJ and CH now. MSJ, CHC, McD, Spalding & Gilman are the only "A" Conference schools across the board in all sports. Some of them are larger schools, some are smaller and some are co-ed etc... Congrats to those schools for competing year in and year out while sometimes taking their lumps against schools that specialize in a particular sport while playing A conference. LB is just about there except for football. They will probably return soon as the program gets rebuilt. In all fairness, its been over a decade that LB has been "rebuilding" its football program. This is not a $$ or admissions standards issue: purely bad management and a lack of accountability, if in fact they want to complete in the A Conference. They went from winning the Conference to dropping out of the MIAA to become independent to rejoining as a B team. Sound and fury signifying nothing. LB is primed to win a B championship this year in football. Before rejoining the A
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It's just MSJ and CH now. MSJ, CHC, McD, Spalding & Gilman are the only "A" Conference schools across the board in all sports. Some of them are larger schools, some are smaller and some are co-ed etc... Congrats to those schools for competing year in and year out while sometimes taking their lumps against schools that specialize in a particular sport while playing A conference. LB is just about there except for football. They will probably return soon as the program gets rebuilt. In all fairness, its been over a decade that LB has been "rebuilding" its football program. This is not a $$ or admissions standards issue: purely bad management and a lack of accountability, if in fact they want to complete in the A Conference. They went from winning the Conference to dropping out of the MIAA to become independent to rejoining as a B team. Sound and fury signifying nothing. LB is primed to win a B championship this year in football. Before rejoining the A Didn’t LB just lose to St. Mary’s in football?
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What teams at Gilman are B conference. Gilman won the most MIAA school in the league. All A conference. Hockey and I don't think they have a rugby team
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Some of these schools won’t even have football in 5 years. A few no longer have the numbers to have a JV team. With the huge declines in youth football in recent years the numbers aren’t there to sustain it.
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It's just MSJ and CH now. MSJ, CHC, McD, Spalding & Gilman are the only "A" Conference schools across the board in all sports. Some of them are larger schools, some are smaller and some are co-ed etc... Congrats to those schools for competing year in and year out while sometimes taking their lumps against schools that specialize in a particular sport while playing A conference. LB is just about there except for football. They will probably return soon as the program gets rebuilt. In all fairness, its been over a decade that LB has been "rebuilding" its football program. This is not a $$ or admissions standards issue: purely bad management and a lack of accountability, if in fact they want to complete in the A Conference. They went from winning the Conference to dropping out of the MIAA to become independent to rejoining as a B team. Sound and fury signifying nothing. LB is primed to win a B championship this year in football. Before rejoining the A Didn’t LB just lose to St. Mary’s in football? Yep but they got some kids back and have stabilized the offense.......Concordia wins B though
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It's just MSJ and CH now. MSJ, CHC, McD, Spalding & Gilman are the only "A" Conference schools across the board in all sports. Some of them are larger schools, some are smaller and some are co-ed etc... Congrats to those schools for competing year in and year out while sometimes taking their lumps against schools that specialize in a particular sport while playing A conference. LB is just about there except for football. They will probably return soon as the program gets rebuilt. In all fairness, its been over a decade that LB has been "rebuilding" its football program. This is not a $$ or admissions standards issue: purely bad management and a lack of accountability, if in fact they want to complete in the A Conference. They went from winning the Conference to dropping out of the MIAA to become independent to rejoining as a B team. Sound and fury signifying nothing. LB is primed to win a B championship this year in football. Before rejoining the A Didn’t LB just lose to St. Mary’s in football? Yep but they got some kids back and have stabilized the offense.......Concordia wins B though Concordia is St Francis 2.0. Just not sure how long they can sustain giving athletic schollys without bringing in tuition dollars. They need a Poggi.
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IMLCA had some Crabs and 91 LI Dominating. Cream rises to top. 91 MD looked terrible.
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Crabs at IMLCA tournament show why they are a top Club for HS teams. Ate up competition there. Cant beat a team stacked with quality players and especially quality players older than many.
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IMLCA had some Crabs and 91 LI Dominating. Cream rises to top. 91 MD looked terrible. It’s crazy what college aged players can do against younger kids.
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney Someone said they will play in the 2023 tournaments this summer to be on age, true?
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney Someone said they will play in the 2023 tournaments this summer to be on age, true? 91MD at 25 is hands down best team in their age group. Crabs at 23 is probably top 3-4 in country. MD represented well this weekend in Florida!
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney Someone said they will play in the 2023 tournaments this summer to be on age, true? 91MD at 25 is hands down best team in their age group. Crabs at 23 is probably top 3-4 in country. MD represented well this weekend in Florida! Too bad Crabs 25 was not there. Even when they do go to a competitive tourney, they request to be in an easier bracket. 91MD 25's should play in 2024 bracket, that would put most of team on age.
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney Someone said they will play in the 2023 tournaments this summer to be on age, true? 91MD at 25 is hands down best team in their age group. Crabs at 23 is probably top 3-4 in country. MD represented well this weekend in Florida! Too bad Crabs 25 was not there. Even when they do go to a competitive tourney, they request to be in an easier bracket. 91MD 25's should play in 2024 bracket, that would put most of team on age. Only if the 24's go play in the '23 division.
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney Someone said they will play in the 2023 tournaments this summer to be on age, true? 91MD at 25 is hands down best team in their age group. Crabs at 23 is probably top 3-4 in country. MD represented well this weekend in Florida! Too bad Crabs 25 was not there. Even when they do go to a competitive tourney, they request to be in an easier bracket. 91MD 25's should play in 2024 bracket, that would put most of team on age. The 25's are 26's. You need to do Crabs Math. Still coming along in the classroom. Slowly but surel.....Well, slowly
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney Someone said they will play in the 2023 tournaments this summer to be on age, true? 91MD at 25 is hands down best team in their age group. Crabs at 23 is probably top 3-4 in country. MD represented well this weekend in Florida! Too bad Crabs 25 was not there. Even when they do go to a competitive tourney, they request to be in an easier bracket. 91MD 25's should play in 2024 bracket, that would put most of team on age. The 25's are 26's. You need to do Crabs Math. Still coming along in the classroom. Slowly but surel.....Well, slowly This looks like a comment from a Barely Literate (BL)/Crabs grad. Crabs '23 has it's share of true '22's
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney Someone said they will play in the 2023 tournaments this summer to be on age, true? The '25s will play up in the 23' brackets this summer and do OK. The current 23's will play down in the '25 bracket b/c they don't have holdbacks (other than MM) and can't be expected to compete with their grad class peers. This will also help MM win on-field fights he gets in when not sitting the game out due to a hangover.
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You must not have rolled over to Field 10/11 this weekend because Team 91 MD 2025 who hasn’t lost in years went undefeated again. Sorry you missed us come check it out at the next tourney Someone said they will play in the 2023 tournaments this summer to be on age, true? 91MD at 25 is hands down best team in their age group. Crabs at 23 is probably top 3-4 in country. MD represented well this weekend in Florida! Too bad Crabs 25 was not there. Even when they do go to a competitive tourney, they request to be in an easier bracket. 91MD 25's should play in 2024 bracket, that would put most of team on age. The 25's are 26's. You need to do Crabs Math. Still coming along in the classroom. Slowly but surel.....Well, slowly Has Crabs 2025 picked up any new players to backfill the exodus that took place? I hear there are spots at the BL boarding school-see King Crab.
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Yes all out of state boys with sub par talent. Feel bad for the boys that committed to the team
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Yes all out of state boys with sub par talent. Feel bad for the boys that committed to the team See you in the Spring Dad
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Yes all out of state boys with sub par talent. Feel bad for the boys that committed to the team See you in the Spring Dad Ok Dad. Too bad your kid couldn’t make their home state lax club team. Oh wait that’s right they don’t have any clubs and your kid is below average. Again feel bad for the in state kids who committed to the team and are now stuck
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Yes all out of state boys with sub par talent. Feel bad for the boys that committed to the team See you in the Spring Dad Ok Dad. Too bad your kid couldn’t make their home state lax club team. Oh wait that’s right they don’t have any clubs and your kid is below average. Again feel bad for the in state kids who committed to the team and are now stuck Welcome to your kids future if he plans on playing for an MIAA school. This is the norm; why do you think BL has dorms now?
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Yes all out of state boys with sub par talent. Feel bad for the boys that committed to the team See you in the Spring Dad Ok Dad. Too bad your kid couldn’t make their home state lax club team. Oh wait that’s right they don’t have any clubs and your kid is below average. Again feel bad for the in state kids who committed to the team and are now stuck Welcome to your kids future if he plans on playing for an MIAA school. This is the norm; why do you think BL has dorms now? Went to a gathering recently with a lot of former BL lacrosse graduates. They should build a career center instead of dorms. I didn't think it was possible for an entire class to fail at life. Go chase that lax. Looks like It's 100% worth it in the long run. My son will need cheap labor to hire one day so at least we know where the pipeline will come from. Thanks in advance.
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Yes all out of state boys with sub par talent. Feel bad for the boys that committed to the team See you in the Spring Dad Ok Dad. Too bad your kid couldn’t make their home state lax club team. Oh wait that’s right they don’t have any clubs and your kid is below average. Again feel bad for the in state kids who committed to the team and are now stuck Welcome to your kids future if he plans on playing for an MIAA school. This is the norm; why do you think BL has dorms now? Went to a gathering recently with a lot of former BL lacrosse graduates. They should build a career center instead of dorms. I didn't think it was possible for an entire class to fail at life. Go chase that lax. Looks like It's 100% worth it in the long run. My son will need cheap labor to hire one day so at least we know where the pipeline will come from. Thanks in advance. Sorry your kid got cut; keep working hard!
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So true. Grads are all mid level employees coaching and living in the past. Sociology at its besr
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How many Crabs 2026's are going to be "commuters" attending BL in the fall??
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How many Crabs 2026's are going to be "commuters" attending BL in the fall?? YAWN.....next topic
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How are the crabs 27s? Trying to get a read on how the crabs 28s will be next year.
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