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Amen!

Grizzlies lost to NJ and as I was told by NJ parents at the UA semi final game vs NJ (the best 22's and 23's did UA; mostly 22's) Long Island beat NJ's best 7-3 in a well played semi finals despite the pouring rain. Grizzlies got beat basically by 12 Steps Blue girls. Baltimore was upset by one goal to Philly. Yes Long Island beat them by 7 goals, but it was first game of tourney at 8am; we all knew it was going to be a tougher Philly team in the finals. The bench got tightened because it has too in the playoffs. Espo and Dave did a great job running 3 middie lines and 6 attackman during pool play, but with 12 min running quarters during the playoffs there are certain girls that need to be on the field more.. Philly I am sure did the same.
Everyone can say what they want but, nothing compares to UA underclass event when it comes to girls HS lacrosse; and the college coaches all agree

someone sounds sour that they lost at AS / didnt even make a playoff game. go do your breathing exercises. you will be the first in line next year to register for UA and you know

Maybe the time has come to limit the number of good players a college program can bring in. It always seems to be th
Nonsense. How can you have a real discussion if you try to limit what can be discussed? A "participation trophy" is exactly what you are calling for. You are entitled to your opinion but so are others. Diversity has no place in competition.

Who didn’t make a playoff game?

Traditionally, Under Armour Underclass has been the most competitive HS tournament. There have always been complaints about the selection process but most were sour grapes. It seems that last year some of the complaints were legit. Now that club directors have created their own event UA needs to do a better job with the evaluation and selection process. When my oldest first tried out there was no CR /YJ involvement and I think 17 or 18 of the players were Yellow Jackets.

I hope they figure it out because it is a great event!

Don't ever let facts get the way of a good rant.

For those who have gone through the recruiting process, my daughter who is a ‘23 has received a few personal text messages from coaches the past couple days asking her to fill out a questionnaire. Some of these same coaches have also contact our club director to express interest. Since there are no more recruiting events this summer would you say this is a strong indication that she will receive offers? Has this happen to anyone else and not receive communication on September 1?

I know exactly what you mean but it will never happen.
There are players (mainly just the parents) who will fly all over the country chasing accolades. It gets annoying seeing the same sports family at all of the top competitions, trolling for highlights. They even have their own professional video production crews.
Consider it flattering that there are not enough lax bros in Colorado and they all want to come here to play. East Coast lettuce can never be trumped by Co or Tx lettuce!

None of these events should be based on talent, everybody should get a chance.... Good grief.

No a participation trophy is not what is being called for. Take the recent UA and AS tryouts. Slots were already awarded by AS prior to UA. Why should a person then tryout for UA if the tournament is at the same time. Not saying let everyone get in. Once selected accept or don't tryout.

Hey I got an Idea have only 1 so called All American Tournament . That way only the best players go . Instead of having all these money grab events.

Problem solved

For sure it’s a positive sign. The 9/1 contacts will not be offers ( for 99% of the girls) but a text saying hey we saw you, we like your game, let’s talk more.. maybe schedule a campus visit or a zoom so they can tell her more about the school the coaches etc, and they will want to know you and her also.
Don’t expect to be wrapped up by the end of the week…

Of course there will be some early movement.. I doubt The Grizzly 2023 will be around very long. And some LI girls will go quick too But for 99% of you it’s gonna be a little process. It will be stressful etc but your D gets to do it once… slow it down and soak it in.

I didn’t realize that D1’s were allowed to personally text a 2023 student. I think colleges contacting clubs expressing interest is a positive sign but the personal text might be a violation of NCAA rules. My 2023 DD only communicates one on one at this point with d2 and d3. Hopeful for contact on Sept 1 from D1’s, but we are waiting to have our recruiting director put the effort forward with the best matches and expect to have a better idea come September.

It’s a general txt w/ a questionnaire-there is no communication so it is not a violation. My daughter (a 22) had many through out last summer from 2 specific schools that sent her a txt w/ questions to answer. Those schools contacted her at midnight on Sept 1st.

Yes. Duke coach sent out a letter to clubs stating interest today. But it will be a tough decision if their are multiple offers involved. Good luck to all the girls and hoping they all find a home they love! My question is…how fast do you need to move? Would love for my daughter to go on a few official visits before deciding.

Congrats Duke parent! That’s incredibly exciting.

The pace of it all is up to you! You are in charge of the process.. talk, be honest, visit, communicate. If a coach has real interest they want to get it right too.
I doubt it will be a sprint..a small group of kids will get the early offer to the big school but most won’t.. it will be a series of conversations first leading towards reaching mutual interest, then an offer and finally a verbal commitment. Visit the schools, meet the coaches, see the facility, the dorms & classrooms.

Yes My 22 had this happen too via email When she got them she reached out to her HS coach who reached out to the college coach on her behalf to get the conversation started. It worked out well. Good luck to you.

Interest isn’t an offer… that letter while encouraging doesn’t mean your full ride is coming 9/1
Will they reach out? Probably but it’s just the beginning.. lots of conversations to follow.

Ok, got it. My 23 got these but via her sports recruits account. A text sounds a lot more direct/personally directed.

We have gotten many responses from schools referring us to their camps or prospect days and recruit questionnaires. I thought this was just a formality correct? I’m not getting hopes up for these schools?

The schools that are asking for questionnaires to be filled out probably have real interest, make sure you have your daughter fill those out right away. As for camps, personally I would wait until after September 1. That way if you fo go you will know if the coach is really recruiting your daughter. Many schools are trying for August money grabs I see

A lot of them are just general emails, but my daughter received direct texts (not emails) from schools asking her questions to get to know her.

Yes those are just formalities. If additional questionnaires come (not just the recruit questionnaire on the team web site) then you are most likely on a list of interest.

If DI coaches are texting your daughter questions prior to September 1st, that is illegal. Questionnaires are one thing...texting to 'get to know your daughter' is not permitted prior to 9/1.

My 22 daughter was asked to fill out questionnaires prior to 9/1. Some reached out, some didn't after 9/1. Even some of the ones that reached out after 9/1 didn't wind up making an offer. Good luck to all.

100% and if sounds to good to be true it probably is.

My impression of the questionnaires was that it was just a standard response. Some seemed personally directed but others were very obviously auto-send. The ‘text’ seems far more of a direct contact, but maybe my kid just isn’t that much of a stud. She has received zero personal texts from D1. Holding off for camps and prospect days until after Sept 1. Those who have been through this process before obviously know more about how the process tends to play out.

It is not "illegal". It is a text being sent asking questions (what's your favorite hobby? What's your favorite food?). They do not respond after you reply with your answers - therefore there is no communication - therefore NOT illegal. These are top D1 schools, I think they know what they are doing, just saying!

It is absolutely illegal to send 'one off' texts to kids before Sept 1st. It has to be a legitimate questionnaire. You can text a link to one--that is fine. And, just because people are at 'Top D1 schools' doesn't mean that they don't try to work around the rules or cheat.

As we approach September 1st it is important for those who have not been through the recruiting process put things in perspective and learn to read between the lines.

The coaches will make offers to the top recruits, coaches don’t waste time dancing around with the players that they really want. They may not discuss the financial component right away but they will tell the recruit that they want them and that they have a spot. Coaches want to know that the player truly wants to go to their school, once they know that there is genuine interest they will get into the details of the offer.

If a coach is talking to a player but not offering a spot it is likely that the coach believes they may get a player that they have ranked higher on their list.

If a coach goes dark or will not talk to the player it is very likely that the coach has no interest.

The recruiting process is very fluid, and where a player is on a coaches list can change quickly.

Remember, the player is not going through the process in a vacuum, the decisions other players make can affect your daughter.

There will be several “rounds” of players committing, each time a bunch of players commit the coaches reevaluate who is left and adjust their lists.

Many coaches will hold spots until next June in order to see what college players enter the portal after the college season ends.

Great information. Thank you. I believe my daughter will be getting offers from a few schools that are top on her list. She doesn’t really have a favorite (more like a few favorites) and would really like to see these schools and meet the coaches before deciding. If she visits a school and really likes it, she may want to commit, which is fine, but I wonder if she may like another school that she didn’t see better and not get the chance. I also am under the impression that if an offer is made and you don’t decide within a few days, that offer may be gone. Any advice here would be appreciated.

Not all coaches put a clock on the offer but they may want to know that your daughter has true interest and that the school is one of your daughters top 2 or 3 choices. As the post above says, coaches want to know that the player really wants to go to the school. Coaches know that players have to visit multiple schools before making a decision.

Thank you for some great information for us parents going through this process for the first time. Appreciate your post. Nice to see BOTC being used for helpful and informative purposes!

100% agree!! The reason coaches are texting questionnaires is because they equate responses and the kids who fill out the questionnaire as interested!
You need to realize that coaches recruit an ‘A’, ‘B’ and ‘C’ list or ( or tier 1, 2,3 or whatever they call it). A lot of schools have the same list of girls in their A group so once those girls verbal, the ball really starts rolling which is what happened with the 22s and they went fast.
My daughters received over 50 texts, emails, phone calls between the two of them, 2 coaches come in person to offer and were offered on calls as well on September 1. They took 4 of the 5 official visits(paid for by the school) in 3 weeks and had to walk away from offers bc a few coaches didn’t want to wait.
My advice is to take your time. If a coach really wants your kid, they will wait -well most will. Go where your child is really wanted—not only will it likely translate into a good offer but also likely into playing time as long as your child works hard and arrives in top shape ready to go!

That’s some more really great information. Thank you so much!

What if your kid is not that player...meaning that she is a great player but doesn't have any hype. We are hearing that there is contact between coaches (club and college ) for many of her teammates but nothing for her. Starting to feel that this might not happen for her.

I think all you can really do is hold off until Sept 1 and see what happens. Has she reached out to coaches with film, etc?

But is what being told to you really true? One advise I received (& think is great advise) is you don’t talk about who is contacting your daughter. It’s no ones business.