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Jesters and some others are definately as good as fl$ but only when fl$ does not have its varsity players. Lets see what the summer brings.

Yeah definitely. We were missing guys and it was the refs fault.

We decided to stay for "the game of the day". Both teams playing at a higher level than most. Both teams had some missed opportunities. The jesters looked like the better team. Their defense looks to be their strong point. Jesters midfield was fast and played well. Both teams overall very solid.

For love of your money does not live up to the hype... It's all smoke and mirrors!!!!

you lose your bet - Ballers missing a varsity player still in the payoffs

Sounds like someone's kid got cut by fl$!

No Limit Ballers go 5-0 to win the SE Regional and will be going to Disney

Will be rocked by repeat champs fl$!

Lets get 3 long island teams in the final four again and who cares who wins!!!!! Go Long Island

"Who cares who wins" - ha, ha thanks for the "kum-ba-yah" chuckle. Just a hunch but I bet fl$ and Express care very much who wins.

The 2014 and 2013 express team didnt live up to the hype in Deleware. Maybe its time for daddy to step down.
Seems that the 2015s have it right. A real coaching staff is the difference.
It is ok when they are younger, but when they get older you have to get rid of the dads.

Do you think it is the difference of havng a different coach after x amount of years . to much of the same thing may not take them to the next steps. good bad or indifferent

How did all the 2015 LI teams fare at their tournaments this past weekend?

fl$ and Express Orange did not play. Not sure about Express Blue at Maverik.

Heard So. Shore Ballers did not win "A" bracket at Maverik as many might have expected. Did not hear result but NJ Diesel and Superstar (Westchester/CT) were in the final.

Heard the jesters won at summer slam AA bracket.

US Lacrosse has released the boys youth lacrosse teams that will compete in the fourth annual US Lacrosse Under-15 National Championships from July 27th thorugh July 29th at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

US Lacrosse Boys’ U15 National Championship
3d Select (Colo.)
Atlanta Coyotes (Ga.)
Bamalax (Ala.)
Blue Devil Elite (Fla.)
Colorado
DH Lax Elite (Calif.)
Dukes HHH (Pa.)
FCA (Md.)
Florida
Florida Swashbucklers
For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Illinois United/Team One
Jacksonville (Fla.)
Long Island Express 2015 (N.Y.)
Long Island Jesters (N.Y.)
Long Island Outlaws (N.Y.)
Looney’s (Md.)
Minnesota
NESLL (Mass.)
No Limit Ballers (N.Y.)
NorCal Blue (Calif.)
NorCal Platinum (Calif.)
NorCal Talon (Calif.)
LarryMiller (Fla.)
Palm Beach Storm (Fla.)
Utah

Too bad the West Coast Starz and the Crabs will not be there. Those are the only two that have proven they can beat the Express this year. fl$ might as well hand over the trophy to the Express right now and save both teams the plane fare.

Six Florida teams and only 2 from MD. Seems watered down. Congrats Express.

FCA usually has kids from all over, LI kids have been on this team in years past, I don't understand why if the 2015 Baltimore teams don't go because so many kids are not U15 why they don't send their 2016 teams that are U15? Just adding any Crabs team would legitimize the entire "national Championship" concept

Agreed - add laxachussets and a couple of others to the notable missing. Curious if anybody has any insight into why so many good clubs bypass this? Cost? Location? Heat? It can't be the age thing anymore since that was adjusted this year. Without the clubs mentioned that are missing, the NSCLA has to be considered "the real" U15 championship. This is going to be a cakewalk for Express. Another NY final for sure and Express by 7 or 8 in the final. It'll be over by halftime. The rest of the teams are wasting their time.

Winning this will be much easier than the NSCLA and therefore won't mean as much. But still a good test and not a total waste of time. But, until somebody beats the WC Starz they will be the unofficial best U15 team. Does anybody know if they've lost this year? Aside from the NSCLA is there a tournament out there where EVERYBODY will meet (Crabs, Express, Starz, Laxachussets, Jesters, Ballers, fl$ etc.). Maybe we'll just have to wait until next year. I know this summer has just started but what are the key tournaments for next year were all the best clubs might meet?

They bypass because their players are too old to play in it. They may be in 9th grade, but they are NOT U15.

Many of the teams you mention will be at the Young Guns July 7-8th Tournament in MD. Should be a good couple days of lax. Its for 2018 and 2017 teams.

How about crabfeast

Prediction: fl$ 2015 won't make the final 4 in FL. I saw them last week in MD. Great F/O but team has a low lax IQ. Strategy has been to assemble the best athletes they can find but not necessarily the smartest lacrosse players. That worked two years ago in rising 8th grade but has caught up to them now. They have good team speed and try to out hustle and run past other teams with most of their goals coming in unsettled, transition situations. But, in settled situations, they have a selfish and undisciplined "can you top this" run and gun super star offensive mentality (no set offense - can't pass it around more than 3 passes before somebody can't help themselves and pulls the trigger on a low quality shot) and weak defense. Team looks like tarzan in warmups and 1-1s but plays like Jane against fundamentally sound and defensively disciplined teams. MAke sure you middies hustle back and play rope-a-dope against them and they will get frustrated and make plenty of mistakes to beat themselves. Going home early.

Best thing fl$ 2015 can do is bring in a more sophisticated coaching philosophy that can get these boys back to the top where they should be. This team has stagnated and probably regressed from where it was two years ago. They used to be the best in this grade and now they are just pretty good. Subtract 2 GC varsity players and they are just ok. They used to be a decent match for Express but I doubt they can keep the deficit to less than 7 or 8 in a full game now. I guarentee we'll see the entire team try out for Express Orange again this fall but only the two GC varsity kids are good enough.

Agreed. Its not the boys' fault - they are allowed to free wheel and run the asylum because of their athletic gifts but they are continually outcoached. No way a team with that much athletic talent shouldn't be able to beat anybody - including Dukes, Crabs and Express. They're not even close now, but they can be. I hope they can keep this team together but no doubt changes are in store for next year.

fl$ 2015 player for player can match up with any other team their age in the country ( express, crabs, dukes...) If they can come together as a team they will be solid. They have a big roster which dose not allow their stars to make plays but if they can play team offense and team defense they can be a great team.

Let me guess, an express parent thinking that express is on top of the world, the past 3 fl$ tournaments not all of their kids have been there. Half the kids are all varsity players, great offense, great defense. Past 3 years been in the finals of a u15 championship with half of the 2015 team playing up and winning a u15 title.

fl$ would defenitley out match west coast starz and probably would have won the nscla tournament. Since express is so good and will win by 7 or 8, we'll have to see who the better team is in florida when fl$ goes to a 4th straight title, and wins their 2nd straight u15 national title.

fl$ will shock the Express and retain the title. Express has all the pressure and expectations of winning. fl$ will play lose and smart. fl$ 10 Express 8. It will be a great final.

Dont dismiss the jesters. They are playing some great lacrosse. What LI teams are playing at Hofstra this weekend?

You got it wrong. Jesters will be in the final in FL. The fact that both fl$ and Express will underestimate them will work to their advantage. They are as solid as any team out there.

Anybody know how Express Orange did at tri-state? Were they successful defending their title?

No prediction here. I think fl$ and express Orange are probably 2 of the best teams I have seen out of the 2015 group. You could argue all day who is better. If they played each other I'm sure it could go either way. There are other teams out there that will give them both a run for their money. The Ballers look good and would not be an easy win for either team. I hear a lot about the jesters also and they should probably in the mix as well.

Express Orange lost at tristate.... They ran out of holy water.

fl$ will win nats hands down

Don't look now but if the mighty Turtles were in this they might beat fl$ 2015 and Express Orange. They would have whipped up on the 2016 Orange if unleashed. But unless they make a surprise appearance in FL (rumor has it could be next year ahead of schedlue), you have to go with Express until fl$ proves they can beat them. 4-3 Express.

Natl draw is out the games get played on field in
3 weeks.

The why didn't the trutles play 2016 orange in the ships a few weeks ago instead of being claimed a co-champion? It would of looked even better on the website. Turtles are the best team at there age...no where close if they move up and play real AA level competition. The fall down and cry routine to get penalties wouldn't go very far in disney.