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I think they are replying to the absurd notion that a team that goes 1-3 in a G8 tournament is all of a sudden not going to get any recruiting attention.

Let's not even mention this is a 2025 team.

Some of you here are very warped.

God bless the new head coach for the MDU East team then! He will definitely have his work cut out for him to turn this sinking ship around! And a piece of advise, don’t discuss anything with your parents. Some in particular don’t know how to keep quiet and lie on other families to make themselves look good!

Sure you don’t! 😉😉

Heard about people bashing MDU recruiting on this page. I'm stating my experience.

Yeah, good luck at Integrity/ CCLax tryouts.

If your 23 isn't hearing from coaches something is wrong.

You too!

Look in the mirror!

No ax to grind. Just responding to the initial post that put out false information about families who probably aren't aware of this forum. Unless you are a coach on that team you would not know the details about every player.

They would only be hearing from D2 & D3 at this point (or Navy & Army)...so why make the comment "if your 23 isn't hearing from coaches something is wrong??? D1 can not talk to them until Sept 1st.

Not directly but they should be expressing interest to your club coach who should be forwarding this information to you. As was said, if you haven't been hearing from coaches it's not a good thing.

The above statement is NOT true at all

It's 100% true. Plenty of coaches are reaching out to club coaches/directors and expressing interest in girls. Have been for a while now. Like I said, if you haven't heard from your coach/club director that certain schools have expressed "general interest" in your daughter then either none have or your coach is not doing their job and informing you. Been through this with a 2021 and now a 2023 and this has been the case both times prior to 9/1.

Can we just get through tryouts?

Will we see a lot of movement? Pre Covid not much movement at 9th grade. Is this the new norm going forward? Maybe a club should lead the way with blunt honesty and rank their own position players by rank. Are you the last defender or middle? Just tell each girl their rank and not the whole list. This would give girls/ families reassurance or the impetus to tryout elsewhere. My prediction is that tryouts will really benefit M&D, sneaky going first. Huge advantage. At this age player base in the area knows a lot about each other and teams. Coppermine, Hoco, Integrity, MC elite, MD united, and even Redshirts should be getting in on trying to get players from the big 3 especially from their b teams where there is some talent. Time will tell. Default would be status quo big 3 accumulate even more talent. That next tier of clubs should give it a shot and not go quitely into the fall.

This whole MDU exchange back and forth has been riddled with lies from the beginning!

M&D definitely has an advantage. Girls have to commit before Hero's even have their tryouts. If clubs have tryouts on Saturday and are playing in the Mid Atlantic they miss out on those tryouts too.

Remember….no one’s spot is guaranteed so don’t get too ahead of yourself!

I wouldn't count on any help from your CLUB other than the Coach/Director reaching out to tell you that a college is interested. You and your daughter should take responsibility for her recruitment. Review/check her emails to coaches/colleges for any errors, get her video out, etc... Your CLUB won't get your daughter recruited your daughter's talent will !

The two girls did not leave the team before moving- fact
The one girl who left months ago was due to personal issues and shouldn’t even be on here.- fact
The two dads got their daughters kicked off- one girl was visibly upset.- fact.
No parent- no matter what should go up to a team of girls and call them losers and tell them that they stink— pretty sure that gets you kicked off a team— don’t need to be a coach that is privileged to that information to know that— just common knowledge.
Or berating a coach in the parking lot- fact.
The club and the girls held their heads up high and finished out their season with grit and composure.

Still more inaccurate information. Still don’t know why people feel the need to speak on things they know nothing about.

Are you the director? - No
Are you a coach? - No

You don’t know squat and should mind your business and keep your “opinions” to yourself.

Not sure what you were looking at to finish their season. You reap what you sow.

Completely agree and my daughter has done exactly that. However club recruiting director/owner/coach and high school coach (especially in IAAM) relationships and advocating for recruits does make a huge difference. College coaches do reach out to their trusted club and high school contacts for recommendations. BA at MDU did make promises to some 22’s and she didn’t follow through with them. Absolute fact and what is so disappointing. She should’ve just let those players move on instead of making empty promises. Don’t ever trust her. I ish I had trusted my gut a year ago.

Listen, if your daughter is a MDU 2022, she's on a top-10 nationally ranked team (assuming A team).
The club director has years of experience and has facilitated scholarships to a large percent of roster each year. If she is on B, then yes, you should be shopping around to try to get her in the best possible position.

I'm not sure what "promises" you refer to, but ifs anything other than "she will get a chance to earn PT" then that's on you, because that's the only thing you can ask for.


Yes, not every director/club coach/HS coach is advocating the same for all the girls, if they did, they would lose all credibility with college coaches. Maybe expectations are not realistic? Maybe grades aren't up to snuff? Maybe its off the field issues?

I guess its just easier to bash others on a message board anonymously.

I feel like you can probably figure out where your kid is in the pecking order over the course of the season.

I could probably rank all the girls 1-22 and get darn close to what the coaches think.

MDU 2022 is far from a top 10 team. Maybe top 50.

https://USCL.com/rank?y=2020&alpha=N&v=2022

Just going off this ranking. You can call it garbage I guess, but it is what it is.

This entire thread started with one MDU calling another MDU parent a profanity which has since been removed by the moderator. Then proceeded to identify every girl that left the team to a point where most clubs in the area know exactly who they are. Every comment that was made about each girl did not exactly paint a pretty picture of that child. These of course are that parents opinion not necessarily the truth. Why would another parent feel the need to do that? How would you feel if somebody put your daughter on blast? The question is once again were you there for every event, parent meeting, text, phone call that took place with coaches when each child left the team? Yes, these are children in case you forgot. Hopefully MDU has a good show for tryouts and can finally find a draw girl.

What about the draw girl they already have but don’t utilize?

Now that's a thought!

I am pretty sure if she was any good at the draw they would have been using her. Some girls peak early and don't put in the work to stay on top.

Agreed….focus on finding a new draw girl to give your team a fighting chance. The one that does it all the time now hasn’t improved at all during the entire season.

The one that did it all the time had an agreement with the coaches to be the main draw girl even though the percentages were awful and consistently turning the ball over, but the coaching staff never made any changes. Constantly hurt the team.

I don’t think the girl who does the draw on MDU has ever peaked……

Parents need to realize it's okay if your kid isn't good at the draw. You can still be a contributor without doing the draw. Calm down. IT'S OKAY. Don't hurt your team due to your ego.

Fact!

Whoever brokered that deal did not get a very goo ROI.

Wow, you guys are brutal openly bashing 14 yr old girls on the internet. Karma folks, beware.

MD United is the King (or Queen) of brokering deals. Director makes deals all of the time to bring girls over to her club. She never makes these decisions based on what's best for everyone - including the current players, only what is best for herself. And it usually comes down to two reasons why...1) Money in her pocket 2) Player will not be going to a competitive club. It is never what is best for the actual player or the team. She will easily demote or discard current players for someone shiny and new. She did it with the 2 players on the 22 team and she did it with the eastern shore girls she lured over on the 23 and 24 teams. She easily moved girls down to the West team to make room for 2 players who had played on M&D Black one year prior. All right before the important recruiting time too. And they were the first two college recruits on that team. She has ZERO loyalty to the girls who have been with her for years. I'm so glad I moved my oldest away from MD United before all of that happened. Best move we ever made.

That is extremely harsh. The person who identified the girls in depth that left the team for various reasons was also harsh. Imagine spending thousands of dollars for tuition, hotels, food and so on and hearing that there was a deal in place and you have been watching the team struggle with the draw for the entire season. That's harsh too.

What's best for current players is that no one ever comes to tryouts to take their spot. Guess what? That's the nature of club lax.
There's so much logic failure in your post. Is she interested in "money in her pocket" implies she's taking kids not on merit but to get more money, yet, she also wants to prevent them from going to a competitive club? Well which is it, if player is not talented, why would she care if she went to competitive club? Again logic fail.

Breaking news: Clubs cut tenured girls for those that are at tryouts. Shocking stuff I tell you.

Glad you moved your kids to a club where you don't have to worry about talent taking their roster spot. I'm sure its working on fine.