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At least you named some teams but I don't think this years results would indicate that any of them would be more competitive in the ACC than any of the ACC teams. UMASS Every team in the ACC except Va Tech played a more competitive game against their only common opponent BC and they have not beaten any ranked team seems like a stretch to say they are more competitive than any ACC tournament. Denver They again have not beaten any ranked team and lost to Colorado who lost to Louisville so so again saying they would be more competitive in the ACC than any ACC team seems to be a stretch Drexel They lost to the only currently ranked team they played by 5 , that team, Loyola, lost to the only ACC team they played in a completely non competitive game ,while they do have some impressive quality wins not sure that puts them as being more competitive than UVA, ND ,Duke . Florida This is probably the best resume of the group as they beat Louisville, and played competitive against UNC . The loss to Jacksonville and the fact that their only ranked win is over #20 Louisville seems to indicate that at best they would be equally competitive and that's being generous In the end they are all good teams but the ACC is just very good this year Maybe they could just call it the NCAACC tournament. Comparative scores are never a strong benchmark for comparing teams. Trying to use Top 20 wins or a teams record this year is basically useless. The only true indication of how teams stack up is head to head competition, relative strength of schedule and overall body of work. This year it is all speculation due to the fact that there has been very little out of conference competition between the top programs. In recent years, only North Carolina and Boston College have proven themselves to be a cut above, Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dam are always Top 20, Duke has been a notch below for several years and Va Tech and Louisville are competitive but certainly have never consistently been Top 20. The Reality is that when you look at the DI field there are always a number of teams that are just as competitive as the bottom 5 or 6 ACC teams. There are also always some that are more competitive than ACC Teams. The ACC does have an advantage this year because many other programs will go into the tournament without being battle tested. Teams like Stony Brook, Florida, JMU, Loyola etc... usually play much tougher schedules than they did this year. Is the ACC the Strongest conference? Yes, but on any given year there between 15 - 20 Teams that are as competitive in the ACC as the bottom 5 or 6. Complete drivel. You don't want to use comparative scores to predict how competitive a team would be nor do you want to use how teams did against top 20 teams instead you want to use strength of schedule which has nothing to do with how good a team is. Talking about how teams have done 3 years ago and more has nothing to do with a current team just look at Drexel. To say a "number of teams that are just as competitive"...as Syracuse , ND , etc is just not looking at current results and teams. Head to head results are generally the best indicator so look at last years as many of the teams have essentially the same players back. The consensus best non ACC team this year seems to be NW, how did they do while playing ACC teams last year. Included in your bottom 6 ACC teams are Cuse, UVA, ND,Duke who went a combined 21-4 out of conference with 2 wins over NW and 1 over MD,Stanford, Princeton, and Navy to name a few.This year those same teams are 17-0 out of conference with wins over JMU,SBU,Loyola,Richmond . To say there are 15-20 teams that are as competitive as these ACC teams is just nonsense. This is a joke right. You stated can’t use prior year's results then quote prior-year results. Geez. I’m thinking you just like to read your nonsense.
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At least you named some teams but I don't think this years results would indicate that any of them would be more competitive in the ACC than any of the ACC teams. UMASS Every team in the ACC except Va Tech played a more competitive game against their only common opponent BC and they have not beaten any ranked team seems like a stretch to say they are more competitive than any ACC tournament. Denver They again have not beaten any ranked team and lost to Colorado who lost to Louisville so so again saying they would be more competitive in the ACC than any ACC team seems to be a stretch Drexel They lost to the only currently ranked team they played by 5 , that team, Loyola, lost to the only ACC team they played in a completely non competitive game ,while they do have some impressive quality wins not sure that puts them as being more competitive than UVA, ND ,Duke . Florida This is probably the best resume of the group as they beat Louisville, and played competitive against UNC . The loss to Jacksonville and the fact that their only ranked win is over #20 Louisville seems to indicate that at best they would be equally competitive and that's being generous In the end they are all good teams but the ACC is just very good this year Maybe they could just call it the NCAACC tournament. Comparative scores are never a strong benchmark for comparing teams. Trying to use Top 20 wins or a teams record this year is basically useless. The only true indication of how teams stack up is head to head competition, relative strength of schedule and overall body of work. This year it is all speculation due to the fact that there has been very little out of conference competition between the top programs. In recent years, only North Carolina and Boston College have proven themselves to be a cut above, Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dam are always Top 20, Duke has been a notch below for several years and Va Tech and Louisville are competitive but certainly have never consistently been Top 20. The Reality is that when you look at the DI field there are always a number of teams that are just as competitive as the bottom 5 or 6 ACC teams. There are also always some that are more competitive than ACC Teams. The ACC does have an advantage this year because many other programs will go into the tournament without being battle tested. Teams like Stony Brook, Florida, JMU, Loyola etc... usually play much tougher schedules than they did this year. Is the ACC the Strongest conference? Yes, but on any given year there between 15 - 20 Teams that are as competitive in the ACC as the bottom 5 or 6. Complete drivel. You don't want to use comparative scores to predict how competitive a team would be nor do you want to use how teams did against top 20 teams instead you want to use strength of schedule which has nothing to do with how good a team is. Talking about how teams have done 3 years ago and more has nothing to do with a current team just look at Drexel. To say a "number of teams that are just as competitive"...as Syracuse , ND , etc is just not looking at current results and teams. Head to head results are generally the best indicator so look at last years as many of the teams have essentially the same players back. The consensus best non ACC team this year seems to be NW, how did they do while playing ACC teams last year. Included in your bottom 6 ACC teams are Cuse, UVA, ND,Duke who went a combined 21-4 out of conference with 2 wins over NW and 1 over MD,Stanford, Princeton, and Navy to name a few.This year those same teams are 17-0 out of conference with wins over JMU,SBU,Loyola,Richmond . To say there are 15-20 teams that are as competitive as these ACC teams is just nonsense. We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different.
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At least you named some teams but I don't think this years results would indicate that any of them would be more competitive in the ACC than any of the ACC teams. UMASS Every team in the ACC except Va Tech played a more competitive game against their only common opponent BC and they have not beaten any ranked team seems like a stretch to say they are more competitive than any ACC tournament. Denver They again have not beaten any ranked team and lost to Colorado who lost to Louisville so so again saying they would be more competitive in the ACC than any ACC team seems to be a stretch Drexel They lost to the only currently ranked team they played by 5 , that team, Loyola, lost to the only ACC team they played in a completely non competitive game ,while they do have some impressive quality wins not sure that puts them as being more competitive than UVA, ND ,Duke . Florida This is probably the best resume of the group as they beat Louisville, and played competitive against UNC . The loss to Jacksonville and the fact that their only ranked win is over #20 Louisville seems to indicate that at best they would be equally competitive and that's being generous In the end they are all good teams but the ACC is just very good this year Maybe they could just call it the NCAACC tournament. Comparative scores are never a strong benchmark for comparing teams. Trying to use Top 20 wins or a teams record this year is basically useless. The only true indication of how teams stack up is head to head competition, relative strength of schedule and overall body of work. This year it is all speculation due to the fact that there has been very little out of conference competition between the top programs. In recent years, only North Carolina and Boston College have proven themselves to be a cut above, Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dam are always Top 20, Duke has been a notch below for several years and Va Tech and Louisville are competitive but certainly have never consistently been Top 20. The Reality is that when you look at the DI field there are always a number of teams that are just as competitive as the bottom 5 or 6 ACC teams. There are also always some that are more competitive than ACC Teams. The ACC does have an advantage this year because many other programs will go into the tournament without being battle tested. Teams like Stony Brook, Florida, JMU, Loyola etc... usually play much tougher schedules than they did this year. Is the ACC the Strongest conference? Yes, but on any given year there between 15 - 20 Teams that are as competitive in the ACC as the bottom 5 or 6. Complete drivel. You don't want to use comparative scores to predict how competitive a team would be nor do you want to use how teams did against top 20 teams instead you want to use strength of schedule which has nothing to do with how good a team is. Talking about how teams have done 3 years ago and more has nothing to do with a current team just look at Drexel. To say a "number of teams that are just as competitive"...as Syracuse , ND , etc is just not looking at current results and teams. Head to head results are generally the best indicator so look at last years as many of the teams have essentially the same players back. The consensus best non ACC team this year seems to be NW, how did they do while playing ACC teams last year. Included in your bottom 6 ACC teams are Cuse, UVA, ND,Duke who went a combined 21-4 out of conference with 2 wins over NW and 1 over MD,Stanford, Princeton, and Navy to name a few.This year those same teams are 17-0 out of conference with wins over JMU,SBU,Loyola,Richmond . To say there are 15-20 teams that are as competitive as these ACC teams is just nonsense. This is a joke right. You stated can’t use prior year's results then quote prior-year results. Geez. I’m thinking you just like to read your nonsense. Please quote where it says you cannot use a prior year's results. Its actually fairly clear when they say "essentially the same players back " that they believe last years results are indicative of this years success. Reading comprehension Geez. Also note that there are multiple people responding.
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At least you named some teams but I don't think this years results would indicate that any of them would be more competitive in the ACC than any of the ACC teams. UMASS Every team in the ACC except Va Tech played a more competitive game against their only common opponent BC and they have not beaten any ranked team seems like a stretch to say they are more competitive than any ACC tournament. Denver They again have not beaten any ranked team and lost to Colorado who lost to Louisville so so again saying they would be more competitive in the ACC than any ACC team seems to be a stretch Drexel They lost to the only currently ranked team they played by 5 , that team, Loyola, lost to the only ACC team they played in a completely non competitive game ,while they do have some impressive quality wins not sure that puts them as being more competitive than UVA, ND ,Duke . Florida This is probably the best resume of the group as they beat Louisville, and played competitive against UNC . The loss to Jacksonville and the fact that their only ranked win is over #20 Louisville seems to indicate that at best they would be equally competitive and that's being generous In the end they are all good teams but the ACC is just very good this year Maybe they could just call it the NCAACC tournament. Comparative scores are never a strong benchmark for comparing teams. Trying to use Top 20 wins or a teams record this year is basically useless. The only true indication of how teams stack up is head to head competition, relative strength of schedule and overall body of work. This year it is all speculation due to the fact that there has been very little out of conference competition between the top programs. In recent years, only North Carolina and Boston College have proven themselves to be a cut above, Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dam are always Top 20, Duke has been a notch below for several years and Va Tech and Louisville are competitive but certainly have never consistently been Top 20. The Reality is that when you look at the DI field there are always a number of teams that are just as competitive as the bottom 5 or 6 ACC teams. There are also always some that are more competitive than ACC Teams. The ACC does have an advantage this year because many other programs will go into the tournament without being battle tested. Teams like Stony Brook, Florida, JMU, Loyola etc... usually play much tougher schedules than they did this year. Is the ACC the Strongest conference? Yes, but on any given year there between 15 - 20 Teams that are as competitive in the ACC as the bottom 5 or 6. Complete drivel. You don't want to use comparative scores to predict how competitive a team would be nor do you want to use how teams did against top 20 teams instead you want to use strength of schedule which has nothing to do with how good a team is. Talking about how teams have done 3 years ago and more has nothing to do with a current team just look at Drexel. To say a "number of teams that are just as competitive"...as Syracuse , ND , etc is just not looking at current results and teams. Head to head results are generally the best indicator so look at last years as many of the teams have essentially the same players back. The consensus best non ACC team this year seems to be NW, how did they do while playing ACC teams last year. Included in your bottom 6 ACC teams are Cuse, UVA, ND,Duke who went a combined 21-4 out of conference with 2 wins over NW and 1 over MD,Stanford, Princeton, and Navy to name a few.This year those same teams are 17-0 out of conference with wins over JMU,SBU,Loyola,Richmond . To say there are 15-20 teams that are as competitive as these ACC teams is just nonsense. We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different. Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference.
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We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different.[/quote]
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Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference.[/quote]
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Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament:
2016:
Hopkins over UVA
Stony Brook over BC
Northwestern over Louisville
Maryland over Syracuse
2017:
Cornell over ND
JMU over Louisville
Maryland over BC
2018:
Princeton over Syracuse
JMU over UVA
JMU over UNC
JMU over BC
2019:
Northwestern over ND
Northwestern over Syracuse
Maryland over BC
14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams
In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times.
2016:
UNC over Duke
UNC over ND
2017
BC over Syracuse
UNC over UVA
2018
UNC over Va Tech
2019
UNC over UVA
BC over UNC
You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.
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We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different. ----------------------------------------- Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference.[/quote] ------------------------------------------ Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament: 2016: Hopkins over UVA Stony Brook over BC Northwestern over Louisville Maryland over Syracuse 2017: Cornell over ND JMU over Louisville Maryland over BC 2018: Princeton over Syracuse JMU over UVA JMU over UNC JMU over BC 2019: Northwestern over ND Northwestern over Syracuse Maryland over BC 14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times. 2016: UNC over Duke UNC over ND 2017 BC over Syracuse UNC over UVA 2018 UNC over Va Tech 2019 UNC over UVA BC over UNC You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote] ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.
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We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different. ----------------------------------------- Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference.[/quote] ------------------------------------------ Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament: 2016: Hopkins over UVA Stony Brook over BC Northwestern over Louisville Maryland over Syracuse 2017: Cornell over ND JMU over Louisville Maryland over BC 2018: Princeton over Syracuse JMU over UVA JMU over UNC JMU over BC 2019: Northwestern over ND Northwestern over Syracuse Maryland over BC 14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times. 2016: UNC over Duke UNC over ND 2017 BC over Syracuse UNC over UVA 2018 UNC over Va Tech 2019 UNC over UVA BC over UNC You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote] ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.[/quote] Love it when someone spouts their opinion (as if their opinion is fact) and then that opinion is blown up with actual facts.
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We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different. ----------------------------------------- Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference.[/quote] ------------------------------------------ Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament: 2016: Hopkins over UVA Stony Brook over BC Northwestern over Louisville Maryland over Syracuse 2017: Cornell over ND JMU over Louisville Maryland over BC 2018: Princeton over Syracuse JMU over UVA JMU over UNC JMU over BC 2019: Northwestern over ND Northwestern over Syracuse Maryland over BC 14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times. 2016: UNC over Duke UNC over ND 2017 BC over Syracuse UNC over UVA 2018 UNC over Va Tech 2019 UNC over UVA BC over UNC You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote] ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.[/quote] Haven’t seen any “Big 10 guy” on here touting the Big 10 the way some are touting the ACC.... I have seen posts defending the Big 10 but have not read anything from a Big 10 guy bashing other conferences or teams. Most posts supporting the big 10 are in response to a negative post regarding the big 10. Your ACC guy on the other hand believes that there are no teams that can compete with ACC Teams as if they are all equal to UNC. ACC is a good conference but there are always a bunch of teams that can compete with and beat ACC teams.
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Just watched Towson Vs Drexel in CAA Playoffs, great game, Still not sure what happened. The game went into overtime and for some reason (I did not see a foul) the official awards the ball to Drexel to start OT, Drexel player goes to goal and official makes (IMHO) a questionable call and gives Drexel an 8 meter... Game Over. Idk, don’t know why Drexel got the ball and the call was questionable. Just don’t think games should end like that, officials play too big a roll in this sport.
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We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different. ----------------------------------------- Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference.[/quote] ------------------------------------------ Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament: 2016: Hopkins over UVA Stony Brook over BC Northwestern over Louisville Maryland over Syracuse 2017: Cornell over ND JMU over Louisville Maryland over BC 2018: Princeton over Syracuse JMU over UVA JMU over UNC JMU over BC 2019: Northwestern over ND Northwestern over Syracuse Maryland over BC 14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times. 2016: UNC over Duke UNC over ND 2017 BC over Syracuse UNC over UVA 2018 UNC over Va Tech 2019 UNC over UVA BC over UNC You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote] ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.[/quote] It’s the CNN of the anti ACC group . Again genius tell us the team that this year would be more competitive in the ACC than Cuse , ND , Duke , UVA . You just will not do it because you know there are none other than NW. Whats even funnier is your facts show an anti ACC bias , tell us the conference that has more teams that have been knocked out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four by in conference teams compared to the ACC in the years you looked at . It’s not even close . Still waiting on your more competitive teams for this year but we all know you don’t even believe your own drivel.
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We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different. ----------------------------------------- Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference. ------------------------------------------ Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament: 2016: Hopkins over UVA Stony Brook over BC Northwestern over Louisville Maryland over Syracuse 2017: Cornell over ND JMU over Louisville Maryland over BC 2018: Princeton over Syracuse JMU over UVA JMU over UNC JMU over BC 2019: Northwestern over ND Northwestern over Syracuse Maryland over BC 14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times. 2016: UNC over Duke UNC over ND 2017 BC over Syracuse UNC over UVA 2018 UNC over Va Tech 2019 UNC over UVA BC over UNC You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote] ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.[/quote] It’s the CNN of the anti ACC group . Again genius tell us the team that this year would be more competitive in the ACC than Cuse , ND , Duke , UVA . You just will not do it because you know there are none other than NW. Whats even funnier is your facts show an anti ACC bias , tell us the conference that has more teams that have been knocked out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four by in conference teams compared to the ACC in the years you looked at . It’s not even close . Still waiting on your more competitive teams for this year but we all know you don’t even believe your own drivel.[/quote] You really are funny, people have named multiple teams that are competitive with all but the top ACC teams, yet you keep saying name one. You claim the only reason we do not see an all ACC final four is because the NCAA does not spread the ACC teams out. It is pointed out that several non ACC teams bounce ACC Teams out of the tournament every year yet you still don’t believe it. Maybe this will be the year of the ACC and you can rest easy.
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We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different. ----------------------------------------- Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference. ------------------------------------------ Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament: 2016: Hopkins over UVA Stony Brook over BC Northwestern over Louisville Maryland over Syracuse 2017: Cornell over ND JMU over Louisville Maryland over BC 2018: Princeton over Syracuse JMU over UVA JMU over UNC JMU over BC 2019: Northwestern over ND Northwestern over Syracuse Maryland over BC 14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times. 2016: UNC over Duke UNC over ND 2017 BC over Syracuse UNC over UVA 2018 UNC over Va Tech 2019 UNC over UVA BC over UNC You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote] ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.[/quote] It’s the CNN of the anti ACC group . Again genius tell us the team that this year would be more competitive in the ACC than Cuse , ND , Duke , UVA . You just will not do it because you know there are none other than NW. Whats even funnier is your facts show an anti ACC bias , tell us the conference that has more teams that have been knocked out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four by in conference teams compared to the ACC in the years you looked at . It’s not even close . Still waiting on your more competitive teams for this year but we all know you don’t even believe your own drivel.[/quote] Talk about delusional.... Here is your quote: "Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference." Someone calls BS and proves that you just make things up by displaying the actual result of the NCAA Tournament. It clearly shows that ACC teams are far more likely to be knocked out of the tournament by teams from other conferences than from other ACC Teams yet you still do not believe it. It's not fake news and it's not anti ACC, it is simply actual, factual data.
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We get it, you believe all ACC teams would dominate the rest of Division I Women’s Lacrosse teams. That is your opinion, it is not a fact and it has never actually been a reality, who knows maybe this year but in the end you are simply stating your opinion. The reality of actual results for many years shows that on most years there are 2 Final Four Caliber Teams from The ACC. Most on here would agree that after the Top 4 there are probably 15 or so teams that are competitive with each other most years Syracuse, Virginia, Notre Dame are in that group. Duke in recent years has been at the bottom of that group.. and Va Tech and Louisville most years are on the outside looking in at that group of teams. Obviously you can have your opinion but the reality of what has actually happened tells a different story. Maybe in this crazy Covid season things will be different. ----------------------------------------- Actually the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC .They have beaten essentially every other top ranked team so yes that seems dominant .Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference. ------------------------------------------ Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament: 2016: Hopkins over UVA Stony Brook over BC Northwestern over Louisville Maryland over Syracuse 2017: Cornell over ND JMU over Louisville Maryland over BC 2018: Princeton over Syracuse JMU over UVA JMU over UNC JMU over BC 2019: Northwestern over ND Northwestern over Syracuse Maryland over BC 14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times. 2016: UNC over Duke UNC over ND 2017 BC over Syracuse UNC over UVA 2018 UNC over Va Tech 2019 UNC over UVA BC over UNC You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote] ------------------------------------------- ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.[/quote] --------------------------------------------- It’s the CNN of the anti ACC group . Again genius tell us the team that this year would be more competitive in the ACC than Cuse , ND , Duke , UVA . You just will not do it because you know there are none other than NW. Whats even funnier is your facts show an anti ACC bias , tell us the conference that has more teams that have been knocked out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four by in conference teams compared to the ACC in the years you looked at . It’s not even close . Still waiting on your more competitive teams for this year but we all know you don’t even believe your own drivel.[/quote] --------------------------------------------------------- To piggyback on an earlier post.... which points how many other teams beat ACC teams every year and would be just as competitive in the ACC as all but the Top 2 or 3 teams every year. " I would say there are many teams that would be just as competitive in The ACC as ND, Duke, UVA, Va Tech, And Louisville. Just looked at 2016 - 2019... for ND, Duke, UVA and Syracuse here are their Non-Conference Losses: * Notre Dame - Beaten by Northwestern 5x, USC 2x, High Point, Albany, Princeton, Towson, Cornell. * Duke - Beaten by Northwestern 3x, Penn 2x, Stanford 2x, Penn State, High Point, USC, Elon, Georgetown. * UVA - Beaten by Maryland 4x, Penn State 2x, Princeton 2x, Loyola 2x, JMU 2x, Elon , Navy, Hopkins. * Syracuse - Beaten by Maryland 5x, Princeton 2x, Northwestern 2x, Florida 2x. * Va Tech - Beaten by JMU 4x, USC 2x, Colorado 2x, Navy, Old Dominion, Ohio State, Elon, William & Mary. * Louisville - Beaten by Northwestern 3x, Denver 2x, JMU, Robert Morris, Brown, Marquette, Vanderbilt, Delaware. I will give Syracuse and Virginia credit because the do play competitive non-conference schedules but ND and Duke have become a bit of a joke with their non-conference schedules. Plenty of Programs would be Just as competitive as 5 or 6 of the ACC teams on any given year." You appear to be obsessed with 2020 and 2021 which will always have an asterisk because of the pandemic, the abbreviated 19' season and the Covid influenced 20'. The reality is that there are always a number of teams that can and do compete with all but the Top 2 or 3 ACC teams. Just being in the ACC does not place a team on the same level as North Carolina.
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If you take out the human opinion and leave rankings to a computer based on record and strength of schedule and performance, here’s what you get......
1 North Carolina ACC 18-0 4-0 0-0 14-0 0-0
2 Syracuse ACC 14-3 6-2 2-0 6-1 0-0
3 Boston College ACC 13-3 3-2 1-1 9-0 0-0
4 Drexel CAA 12-1 7-1 0-0 5-0 0-0
5 Notre Dame ACC 9-6 3-5 1-0 5-1 0-0
6 Northwestern Big Ten 13-0 5-0 2-0 6-0 0-0
7 Stony Brook America East 12-2 6-2 0-0 6-0 0-0
8 Hofstra CAA 6-5 2-3 1-0 3-2 0-0
9 Loyola Maryland Patriot 9-2 3-1 0-0 6-1 0-0
10 Massachusetts Atlantic 10 15-2 6-2 0-0 9-0 0-0
11 Florida AAC 14-2 7-2 0-0 7-0 0-0
12 Stanford Pac-12 9-0 6-0 0-0 3-0 0-0
13 Denver Big East 13-1 4-1 0-0 9-0 0-0
14 Vanderbilt AAC 12-5 4-4 0-0 8-1 0-0
15 Jacksonville ASUN 9-1 6-0 0-0 3-1 0-0
16 Duke ACC 9-7 4-3 0-1 5-3 0-0
17 Temple AAC 11-4 6-1 0-0 5-3 0-0
18 Fairfield MAAC 11-1 5-0 0-0 6-1 0-0
19 Siena MAAC 10-2 4-2 0-0 6-0 0-0
20 Saint Joseph's Atlantic 10 10-7 4-3 1-0 5-4 0-0
21 James Madison CAA 9-4 2-2 0-1 7-1 0-0
22 Towson CAA 8-7 3-4 0-0 5-3 0-0
23 Virginia ACC 8-8 2-4 0-1 6-3 0-0
24 Mount St. Mary's NEC 12-2 5-1 0-0 7-1 0-0
25 Albany (NY) America East 10-6 3-4 0-0 7-2 0-0
26 Navy Patriot 8-3 4-1 0-0 4-2 0-0
27 Elon CAA 9-2 4-1 0-0 5-1 0-0
28 Davidson Atlantic 10 11-4 5-3 0-0 6-1 0-0
29 Colorado Pac-12 7-6 2-5 0-0 5-1 0-0
30 Penn Ivy League 1-0 0-0 0-0 1-0 0-0
31 Louisville ACC 5-11 3-5 0-0 2-6 0-0
32 UConn Big East 11-5 6-3 0-0 5-2 0-0
33 Arizona St. Pac-12 9-5 3-3 0-0 6-2 0-0
34 Lehigh Patriot 7-3 3-1 0-0 4-2 0-0
35 Niagara MAAC 8-4 2-3 0-0 6-1 0-0
36 Maryland Big Ten 9-6 1-5 2-1 6-0 0-0
37 High Point Big South 10-7 3-4 0-0 7-3 0-0
38 Wagner NEC 9-4 5-2 0-0 4-2 0-0
39 Southern California Pac-12 9-6 4-3 0-0 5-3 0-0
40 Robert Morris MAC 13-2 6-2 0-0 7-0 0-0
41 Marist MAAC 3-5 0-3 1-0 2-2 0-0
42 Coastal Carolina SoCon 10-6 6-3 1-1 3-2 0-0
43 Virginia Tech ACC 5-11 3-6 0-1 2-4 0-0
44 Furman SoCon 11-4 6-4 0-0 5-0 0-0
45 Richmond Atlantic 10 10-2 5-0 0-1 5-1 0-0
46 Johns Hopkins Big Ten 8-6 5-1 1-1 2-4 0-0
47 Liberty ASUN 9-8 4-6 0-0 5-2 0-0
48 UMBC America East 6-5 2-4 0-0 4-1 0-0
49 Army West Point Patriot 5-3 3-2 0-0 2-1 0-0
50 Monmouth MAAC 8-4 2-3 0-0 6-1 0-0
51 Georgetown Big East 6-9 1-5 0-0 5-4 0-0
52 Cincinnati AAC 7-9 2-5 0-0 5-4 0-0
53 Villanova Big East 6-10 0-7 0-0 6-3 0-0
54 UC Davis MPSF 12-4 6-3 1-0 5-1 0-0
55 LIU NEC 9-4 4-3 0-0 5-1 0-0
56 Vermont America East 6-5 4-1 0-0 2-4 0-0
57 Rutgers Big Ten 6-8 1-5 1-1 4-2 0-0
58 East Carolina AAC 4-12 1-7 0-0 3-5 0-0
59 Bryant NEC 7-5 3-3 0-0 4-2 0-0
60 Central Mich. MAC 8-6 3-3 0-0 5-3 0-0
61 Mercer SoCon 5-7 2-5 0-0 3-2 0-0
62 Quinnipiac MAAC 5-7 0-7 0-0 5-0 0-0
63 Boston U. Patriot 4-5 1-3 0-0 3-2 0-0
64 Duquesne Atlantic 10 4-5 1-3 0-0 3-2 0-0
65 Canisius MAAC 2-8 1-6 0-0 1-2 0-0
66 VCU Atlantic 10 7-9 2-6 0-0 5-3 0-0
67 Marquette Big East 7-9 5-4 0-0 2-5 0-0
68 George Washington Atlantic 10 6-6 4-3 0-0 2-3 0-0
69 La Salle Atlantic 10 5-9 1-6 0-0 4-3 0-0
70 Campbell Big South 8-7 5-2 0-0 3-5 0-0
71 William & Mary CAA 3-9 2-4 0-0 1-5 0-0
72 Sacred Heart NEC 6-7 4-2 0-0 2-5 0-0
73 Penn St. Big Ten 4-9 0-6 0-1 4-2 0-0
74 San Diego St. MPSF 5-9 2-4 0-0 3-5 0-0
75 Bucknell Patriot 3-6 0-4 0-0 3-2 0-0
76 Ohio St. Big Ten 4-9 1-5 0-1 3-3 0-0
77 Saint Francis (PA) NEC 4-9 1-5 0-0 3-4 0-0
78 Manhattan MAAC 3-9 2-5 0-0 1-4 0-0
79 Kennesaw St. ASUN 5-9 3-4 0-0 2-5 0-0
80 Stetson ASUN 1-7 1-4 0-0 0-3 0-0
81 Colgate Patriot 4-5 2-4 0-0 2-1 0-0
82 American Patriot 1-7 0-4 0-0 1-3 0-0
83 Radford Big South 6-12 3-8 0-1 3-3 0-0
84 Winthrop Big South 7-8 3-5 0-0 4-3 0-0
85 Oregon Pac-12 3-9 2-6 0-0 1-3 0-0
86 Binghamton America East 3-5 1-2 0-0 2-3 0-0
87 Michigan Big Ten 3-9 1-5 0-1 2-3 0-0
88 UMass Lowell America East 4-8 2-5 0-0 2-3 0-0
89 George Mason Atlantic 10 1-14 1-9 0-0 0-5 0-0
90 New Hampshire America East 4-7 1-4 0-0 3-3 0-0
91 Old Dominion AAC 3-14 0-4 0-0 3-10 0-0
92 St. Bonaventure Atlantic 10 2-10 1-6 0-0 1-4 0-0
93 Holy Cross Patriot 2-4 1-2 0-0 1-2 0-0
94 California Pac-12 2-15 1-8 0-0 1-7 0-0
95 Fresno St. MPSF 2-12 2-6 0-0 0-6 0-0
96 Butler Big East 0-11 0-6 0-0 0-5 1-0
97 Kent St. MAC 5-10 2-5 0-0 3-5 0-0
98 Akron MAC 7-8 3-4 0-0 4-4 0-0
99 Iona MAAC 1-11 1-4 0-1 0-6 0-0
100 Delaware CAA 1-5 0-2 0-0 1-3 0-0
101 Youngstown St. MAC 2-7 2-2 0-0 0-5 0-0
102 Gardner-Webb Big South 4-10 2-6 0-0 2-4 0-0
103 Merrimack NEC 3-11 1-7 0-0 2-4 0-0
104 Detroit Mercy MAC 2-6 2-2 0-0 0-4 0-0
105 Central Conn. St. NEC 0-14 0-7 0-0 0-7 0-0
106 Longwood Big South 2-13 0-8 0-0 2-5 0-0
107 Lafayette Patriot 0-6 0-3 0-0 0-3 0-0
108 Hartford America East 0-9 0-4 0-0 0-5 0-0
109 Wofford SoCon 2-8 2-4 0-0 0-4 0-0
110 Presbyterian Big South 2-10 2-5 0-0 0-5 2-0
111 Delaware St. SoCon 0-9 0-5 0-0 0-4 1-0
112 Dartmouth
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If you take out the human opinion and leave rankings to a computer based on record and strength of schedule and performance, here’s what you get......
1 North Carolina ACC 18-0 4-0 0-0 14-0 0-0
2 Syracuse ACC 14-3 6-2 2-0 6-1 0-0
3 Boston College ACC 13-3 3-2 1-1 9-0 0-0
4 Drexel CAA 12-1 7-1 0-0 5-0 0-0
5 Notre Dame ACC 9-6 3-5 1-0 5-1 0-0
6 Northwestern Big Ten 13-0 5-0 2-0 6-0 0-0
7 Stony Brook America East 12-2 6-2 0-0 6-0 0-0
8 Hofstra CAA 6-5 2-3 1-0 3-2 0-0
9 Loyola Maryland Patriot 9-2 3-1 0-0 6-1 0-0
10 Massachusetts Atlantic 10 15-2 6-2 0-0 9-0 0-0
11 Florida AAC 14-2 7-2 0-0 7-0 0-0
12 Stanford Pac-12 9-0 6-0 0-0 3-0 0-0
13 Denver Big East 13-1 4-1 0-0 9-0 0-0
14 Vanderbilt AAC 12-5 4-4 0-0 8-1 0-0
15 Jacksonville ASUN 9-1 6-0 0-0 3-1 0-0
16 Duke ACC 9-7 4-3 0-1 5-3 0-0
17 Temple AAC 11-4 6-1 0-0 5-3 0-0
18 Fairfield MAAC 11-1 5-0 0-0 6-1 0-0
19 Siena MAAC 10-2 4-2 0-0 6-0 0-0
20 Saint Joseph's Atlantic 10 10-7 4-3 1-0 5-4 0-0
21 James Madison CAA 9-4 2-2 0-1 7-1 0-0
22 Towson CAA 8-7 3-4 0-0 5-3 0-0
23 Virginia ACC 8-8 2-4 0-1 6-3 0-0
24 Mount St. Mary's NEC 12-2 5-1 0-0 7-1 0-0
25 Albany (NY) America East 10-6 3-4 0-0 7-2 0-0
26 Navy Patriot 8-3 4-1 0-0 4-2 0-0
27 Elon CAA 9-2 4-1 0-0 5-1 0-0
28 Davidson Atlantic 10 11-4 5-3 0-0 6-1 0-0
29 Colorado Pac-12 7-6 2-5 0-0 5-1 0-0
30 Penn Ivy League 1-0 0-0 0-0 1-0 0-0
31 Louisville ACC 5-11 3-5 0-0 2-6 0-0
32 UConn Big East 11-5 6-3 0-0 5-2 0-0
33 Arizona St. Pac-12 9-5 3-3 0-0 6-2 0-0
34 Lehigh Patriot 7-3 3-1 0-0 4-2 0-0
35 Niagara MAAC 8-4 2-3 0-0 6-1 0-0
36 Maryland Big Ten 9-6 1-5 2-1 6-0 0-0
37 High Point Big South 10-7 3-4 0-0 7-3 0-0
38 Wagner NEC 9-4 5-2 0-0 4-2 0-0
39 Southern California Pac-12 9-6 4-3 0-0 5-3 0-0
40 Robert Morris MAC 13-2 6-2 0-0 7-0 0-0
41 Marist MAAC 3-5 0-3 1-0 2-2 0-0
42 Coastal Carolina SoCon 10-6 6-3 1-1 3-2 0-0
43 Virginia Tech ACC 5-11 3-6 0-1 2-4 0-0
44 Furman SoCon 11-4 6-4 0-0 5-0 0-0
45 Richmond Atlantic 10 10-2 5-0 0-1 5-1 0-0
46 Johns Hopkins Big Ten 8-6 5-1 1-1 2-4 0-0
47 Liberty ASUN 9-8 4-6 0-0 5-2 0-0
48 UMBC America East 6-5 2-4 0-0 4-1 0-0
49 Army West Point Patriot 5-3 3-2 0-0 2-1 0-0
50 Monmouth MAAC 8-4 2-3 0-0 6-1 0-0
51 Georgetown Big East 6-9 1-5 0-0 5-4 0-0
52 Cincinnati AAC 7-9 2-5 0-0 5-4 0-0
53 Villanova Big East 6-10 0-7 0-0 6-3 0-0
54 UC Davis MPSF 12-4 6-3 1-0 5-1 0-0
55 LIU NEC 9-4 4-3 0-0 5-1 0-0
56 Vermont America East 6-5 4-1 0-0 2-4 0-0
57 Rutgers Big Ten 6-8 1-5 1-1 4-2 0-0
58 East Carolina AAC 4-12 1-7 0-0 3-5 0-0
59 Bryant NEC 7-5 3-3 0-0 4-2 0-0
60 Central Mich. MAC 8-6 3-3 0-0 5-3 0-0
61 Mercer SoCon 5-7 2-5 0-0 3-2 0-0
62 Quinnipiac MAAC 5-7 0-7 0-0 5-0 0-0
63 Boston U. Patriot 4-5 1-3 0-0 3-2 0-0
64 Duquesne Atlantic 10 4-5 1-3 0-0 3-2 0-0
65 Canisius MAAC 2-8 1-6 0-0 1-2 0-0
66 VCU Atlantic 10 7-9 2-6 0-0 5-3 0-0
67 Marquette Big East 7-9 5-4 0-0 2-5 0-0
68 George Washington Atlantic 10 6-6 4-3 0-0 2-3 0-0
69 La Salle Atlantic 10 5-9 1-6 0-0 4-3 0-0
70 Campbell Big South 8-7 5-2 0-0 3-5 0-0
71 William & Mary CAA 3-9 2-4 0-0 1-5 0-0
72 Sacred Heart NEC 6-7 4-2 0-0 2-5 0-0
73 Penn St. Big Ten 4-9 0-6 0-1 4-2 0-0
74 San Diego St. MPSF 5-9 2-4 0-0 3-5 0-0
75 Bucknell Patriot 3-6 0-4 0-0 3-2 0-0
76 Ohio St. Big Ten 4-9 1-5 0-1 3-3 0-0
77 Saint Francis (PA) NEC 4-9 1-5 0-0 3-4 0-0
78 Manhattan MAAC 3-9 2-5 0-0 1-4 0-0
79 Kennesaw St. ASUN 5-9 3-4 0-0 2-5 0-0
80 Stetson ASUN 1-7 1-4 0-0 0-3 0-0
81 Colgate Patriot 4-5 2-4 0-0 2-1 0-0
82 American Patriot 1-7 0-4 0-0 1-3 0-0
83 Radford Big South 6-12 3-8 0-1 3-3 0-0
84 Winthrop Big South 7-8 3-5 0-0 4-3 0-0
85 Oregon Pac-12 3-9 2-6 0-0 1-3 0-0
86 Binghamton America East 3-5 1-2 0-0 2-3 0-0
87 Michigan Big Ten 3-9 1-5 0-1 2-3 0-0
88 UMass Lowell America East 4-8 2-5 0-0 2-3 0-0
89 George Mason Atlantic 10 1-14 1-9 0-0 0-5 0-0
90 New Hampshire America East 4-7 1-4 0-0 3-3 0-0
91 Old Dominion AAC 3-14 0-4 0-0 3-10 0-0
92 St. Bonaventure Atlantic 10 2-10 1-6 0-0 1-4 0-0
93 Holy Cross Patriot 2-4 1-2 0-0 1-2 0-0
94 California Pac-12 2-15 1-8 0-0 1-7 0-0
95 Fresno St. MPSF 2-12 2-6 0-0 0-6 0-0
96 Butler Big East 0-11 0-6 0-0 0-5 1-0
97 Kent St. MAC 5-10 2-5 0-0 3-5 0-0
98 Akron MAC 7-8 3-4 0-0 4-4 0-0
99 Iona MAAC 1-11 1-4 0-1 0-6 0-0
100 Delaware CAA 1-5 0-2 0-0 1-3 0-0
101 Youngstown St. MAC 2-7 2-2 0-0 0-5 0-0
102 Gardner-Webb Big South 4-10 2-6 0-0 2-4 0-0
103 Merrimack NEC 3-11 1-7 0-0 2-4 0-0
104 Detroit Mercy MAC 2-6 2-2 0-0 0-4 0-0
105 Central Conn. St. NEC 0-14 0-7 0-0 0-7 0-0
106 Longwood Big South 2-13 0-8 0-0 2-5 0-0
107 Lafayette Patriot 0-6 0-3 0-0 0-3 0-0
108 Hartford America East 0-9 0-4 0-0 0-5 0-0
109 Wofford SoCon 2-8 2-4 0-0 0-4 0-0
110 Presbyterian Big South 2-10 2-5 0-0 0-5 2-0
111 Delaware St. SoCon 0-9 0-5 0-0 0-4 1-0
112 Dartmouth RPI and all other Data Points useless this year.... Below is a snipet from the mens side... --- "But for the purposes of this exercise, the most dramatic change is the Big Ten and MAAC teams’ scheduling only conference opponents, thereby rendering the RPI — the building block of all of the NCAA selection criteria — essentially unusable. A team's RPI formula is comparatively simple: it’s 25% of its winning percentage * 50% of its opponents’ winning percentage * 25% of its opponents’ opponents’ winning percentage. The problem arises when teams play only within its (in the Big Ten’s case) six-team group; their RPIs are completely independent from all the other teams’. Yes, every team still has a score, but some teams’ scores have no relationship to one another and, as a result, the ranking is meaningless. Look at the NCAA’s recent release of the RPI. In a normal circumstance, a 9-0 Maryland team would likely be No. 1 overall, at worst top three; their RPI is 7th. An 8-0 Lehigh wouldn’t be too far behind; they’re 13th. It’s logical that the Big Ten teams are distributed throughout the 66 DI teams that have played a game this season (Rutgers 12, Ohio State 33, Penn State 42, Michigan 52, Johns Hopkins 56) because their RPI is functioning like a mini RPI alongside the bigger RPI. Perhaps no ranking better illustrates the RPI’s current flaw better than 1-0 Marist (the NCAA's hasn’t been updated since their Tuesday win over Quinnipiac) being ranked No. 6 and 5-1 Monmouth being ranked No. 11 (we project that, with the win, the Red Foxes RPI jumped to No. 1) . While the RPI isn’t necessarily its own criterion, it’s the basis upon which the other criteria are formed: Strength of Schedule, Non-Conference SOS and Quality Wins are all outcomes of the RPI. So if those criteria can’t be used, what will be used in its place? We don’t really know yet. Part of the reason we don’t know is because the NCAA Committee had a lot of fish to fry; only in the last week have they figured out (or decided) where they’re going to play the first round games. On Wednesday, they hosted a call with the Regional Advisory Committees to get coach feedback on current team performances. On March 31, Committee chair Tim Leonard told IL “[The data issues are] really going to be difficult on how we do this, and the eye test is going to come into play a lot more than it ever does.” As a proxy for the eye test, which is informed by coaches on the “RAC calls” (as they’re referred to), we’ve included the coaches’ poll ranking in our resume list below. Luckily for the committee, the most important decision — which at-large team is the last selected for the tournament field and which is the first out — appears to be pretty clear… for now. Seeding the top eight teams appears as though it may be a substantial challenge, and matching up their first round opponents will be an interesting exercise from a geographic perspective given the decision to host first round games at four sites. That said, the line between No. 8 and No. 9 is negligible this year since the top eight seeds do not host at their home venue."
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Just watched Towson Vs Drexel in CAA Playoffs, great game, Still not sure what happened. The game went into overtime and for some reason (I did not see a foul) the official awards the ball to Drexel to start OT, Drexel player goes to goal and official makes (IMHO) a questionable call and gives Drexel an 8 meter... Game Over. Idk, don’t know why Drexel got the ball and the call was questionable. Just don’t think games should end like that, officials play too big a roll in this sport. It's role and not roll and officials play a huge factor in every sport. stinks for Towson, however that's how the ball bounces........or rolls.
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Just watched Towson Vs Drexel in CAA Playoffs, great game, Still not sure what happened. The game went into overtime and for some reason (I did not see a foul) the official awards the ball to Drexel to start OT, Drexel player goes to goal and official makes (IMHO) a questionable call and gives Drexel an 8 meter... Game Over. Idk, don’t know why Drexel got the ball and the call was questionable. Just don’t think games should end like that, officials play too big a roll in this sport. It's role and not roll and officials play a huge factor in every sport. stinks for Towson, however that's how the ball bounces........or rolls. I heard a player from Towson got hurt late and is normally on the draw circle. In OT Towson ended up short a girl for the draw and once the draw is set in position and ready to go, you cannot send another player running on the field at that time since they were set and ready to go. A girl ran on late and that delayed the draw so they get a green card. I do not know how accurate this is so if someone was there and knows please correct me
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Just watched Towson Vs Drexel in CAA Playoffs, great game, Still not sure what happened. The game went into overtime and for some reason (I did not see a foul) the official awards the ball to Drexel to start OT, Drexel player goes to goal and official makes (IMHO) a questionable call and gives Drexel an 8 meter... Game Over. Idk, don’t know why Drexel got the ball and the call was questionable. Just don’t think games should end like that, officials play too big a roll in this sport. It's role and not roll and officials play a huge factor in every sport. stinks for Towson, however that's how the ball bounces........or rolls. If you are going to make corrections, at least write a grammatically correct sentence.
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Just watched Towson Vs Drexel in CAA Playoffs, great game, Still not sure what happened. The game went into overtime and for some reason (I did not see a foul) the official awards the ball to Drexel to start OT, Drexel player goes to goal and official makes (IMHO) a questionable call and gives Drexel an 8 meter... Game Over. Idk, don’t know why Drexel got the ball and the call was questionable. Just don’t think games should end like that, officials play too big a roll in this sport. It's role and not roll and officials play a huge factor in every sport. stinks for Towson, however that's how the ball bounces........or rolls. I heard a player from Towson got hurt late and is normally on the draw circle. In OT Towson ended up short a girl for the draw and once the draw is set in position and ready to go, you cannot send another player running on the field at that time since they were set and ready to go. A girl ran on late and that delayed the draw so they get a green card. I do not know how accurate this is so if someone was there and knows please correct me Wow, tough break for the Tigers. Although in the end, I don't think it mattered much considering the fact that both teams made the NCAA Tournament and were placed in the same bracket (don't get me started). Hope the coaches learned their lesson.
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NCAA Tournament field looks okay but they could have done a better job with the brackets. CAA has four teams in the tournament 3 are in the same bracket, Big 10 has 4 as well and are split between 2 brackets. With the ACC having 6 teams in the tournament there was now way to avoid some overlap but did they need to put three in the same bracket ? I realize the NCAA uses geography to place teams but maybe they could have done a better solution.
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Actually, the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC. They have beaten essentially every other top-ranked team so yes that seems dominant.Your final four arguments is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference.[/quote]
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Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament:
2016:
Hopkins over UVA
Stony Brook over BC
Northwestern over Louisville
Maryland over Syracuse
2017:
Cornell over ND
JMU over Louisville
Maryland over BC
2018:
Princeton over Syracuse
JMU over UVA
JMU over UNC
JMU over BC
2019:
Northwestern over ND
Northwestern over Syracuse
Maryland over BC
14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams
In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times.
2016:
UNC over Duke
UNC over ND
2017
BC over Syracuse
UNC over UVA
2018
UNC over Va Tech
2019
UNC over UVA
BC over UNC
You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote]
ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.[/quote]
It’s the CNN of the anti-ACC group. Again genius tells us the team that this year would be more competitive in the ACC than Cuse, ND, Duke, UVA. You just will not do it because you know there are none other than NW. What's even funnier is your facts show an anti-ACC bias, tell us the conference that has more teams that have been knocked out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four by in-conference teams compared to the ACC in the years you looked at. It’s not even close. Still waiting on your more competitive teams for this year but we all know you don’t even believe your own drivel.[/quote]
Talk about fools... Here is your quote:
"Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference."
Someone calls BS and proves that you just make things up by displaying the actual result of the NCAA Tournament. It clearly shows that ACC teams are far more likely to be knocked out of the tournament by teams from other conferences than from other ACC Teams yet you still do not believe it. It's not fake news and it's not anti ACC, it is simply actual, factual data.[/quote]
You bunch of Anti ACC lemmings are too dense to realize that your breakfast tasted a lot like crow this morning. 5 of the top 7 seeds are ACC teams. I said name a team that would be more competitive this year in the ACC than Duke ,ND, UVA other than NW and you bunch of clowns tried to switch it to" as" competitive and the seeding committee seems to think otherwise. Then comes your big argument against "many ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA... " no one said that it happens more often than not its just you needed to change the narrative again .No one said it does not happen to other conferences but it happens to the ACC more than most. Still waiting on that list of teams that would have been more competitive than Duke ,ND, UVa this year in the ACC and yes if Louisville and Va Tech had made the tournament there are a number of teams they could have beaten that made it in.
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Actually, the only facts are the records of those teams from the ACC who went 38-4 out of conference the past two seasons and that does not include UNC or BC. They have beaten essentially every other top-ranked team so yes that seems dominant.Your final four arguments is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference. ------------------------------------------ Have to chime in here as you appear to be another person who just pops off without regard for reality. Below are some facts regarding who ACC teams lose to in the NCAA Tournament: 2016: Hopkins over UVA Stony Brook over BC Northwestern over Louisville Maryland over Syracuse 2017: Cornell over ND JMU over Louisville Maryland over BC 2018: Princeton over Syracuse JMU over UVA JMU over UNC JMU over BC 2019: Northwestern over ND Northwestern over Syracuse Maryland over BC 14 times in 4 years ACC Teams were knocked out of The Tournament by Non-ACC Teams In Contrast, ACC teams knocked each other off only 7 Times. 2016: UNC over Duke UNC over ND 2017 BC over Syracuse UNC over UVA 2018 UNC over Va Tech 2019 UNC over UVA BC over UNC You just pop off with nonsense and baseless opinion but feel free to continue to bloviate.[/quote] ACC guy. Big 10 guy. Same nonsense. Opinions based on no facts but always talking and I guess reading their nonsense. But gotta admit it’s entertaining watching their opinions blow up.[/quote] It’s the CNN of the anti-ACC group. Again genius tells us the team that this year would be more competitive in the ACC than Cuse, ND, Duke, UVA. You just will not do it because you know there are none other than NW. What's even funnier is your facts show an anti-ACC bias, tell us the conference that has more teams that have been knocked out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four by in-conference teams compared to the ACC in the years you looked at. It’s not even close. Still waiting on your more competitive teams for this year but we all know you don’t even believe your own drivel.[/quote] Talk about fools... Here is your quote: "Your final four argument is a joke as many of the ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA tournament prior to the final four. You will see the same happen this year as the NCAA does not try to space out teams from the same conference." Someone calls BS and proves that you just make things up by displaying the actual result of the NCAA Tournament. It clearly shows that ACC teams are far more likely to be knocked out of the tournament by teams from other conferences than from other ACC Teams yet you still do not believe it. It's not fake news and it's not anti ACC, it is simply actual, factual data.[/quote] You bunch of Anti ACC lemmings are too dense to realize that your breakfast tasted a lot like crow this morning. 5 of the top 7 seeds are ACC teams. I said name a team that would be more competitive this year in the ACC than Duke ,ND, UVA other than NW and you bunch of clowns tried to switch it to" as" competitive and the seeding committee seems to think otherwise. Then comes your big argument against "many ACC teams have knocked each other out of the NCAA... " no one said that it happens more often than not its just you needed to change the narrative again .No one said it does not happen to other conferences but it happens to the ACC more than most. Still waiting on that list of teams that would have been more competitive than Duke ,ND, UVa this year in the ACC and yes if Louisville and Va Tech had made the tournament there are a number of teams they could have beaten that made it in.[/quote] If I were a betting man I would bet that your daughter plays at ND or Syracuse hence the obsession with "this year". From what I have seen however, everybody agrees that the ACC is a good conference but your incessant rants about naming one team that would be more competitive in an irregular to say the least season is very strange. We will see what happens in the tournament, from the looks of it we will most likely see 3 ACC Teams in the Final Four. I don't think the Committee had much of a choice because of the strange scheduling this year. Several perennial Top 10 - 20 teams did not actually compete among the field this season and several others had extremely limited out of conference competition. It looks like the ACC and the CAA benefited the most from the lack of traditional cross-over games. The ACC benefited most in terms of seeding (most years they get 2-4 seeds) this year they have 6. CAA benefited with more teams in the tournament (most years they get 2 teams in) this year they have 4 in the tournament. PAC 12 usually has 2 teams in the tournament this year only 1. Big 10 is normal with 4 teams in the tournament. Ivy's traditionally have 2-3 Teams in the tournament and 1or 2 are usually seeded. CAA benefited with more teams but were put in the same bracket. Big 10 has their normal number of teams but are paired in the same brackets. I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.
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Towson lost possesion on the draw entering OT because coach had too many players on field. Also Sad. to see. Towson star player. go down hope. she is ok
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“ I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.”
What the what ? You are truly pathetic “everyone agrees that the ACC is a good conference” , you can’t even say the words that the ACC is the best conference for lacrosse in both men’s and women’s . You clowns keep bringing up previous years results from many years ago to try and make predictions about this years teams , it’s a ridiculously obtuse argument from if I were a betting man a ridiculously jealous parent who realizes his kids conference is essentially 13th grade.
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“ I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.”
What the what ? You are truly pathetic “everyone agrees that the ACC is a good conference” , you can’t even say the words that the ACC is the best conference for lacrosse in both men’s and women’s . You clowns keep bringing up previous years results from many years ago to try and make predictions about this years teams , it’s a ridiculously obtuse argument from if I were a betting man a ridiculously jealous parent who realizes his kids conference is essentially 13th grade. I have not seen where anyone has made any predictions nor have I read any post claiming the ACC is not the best conference. The only thing that has been pointed out is that not all ACC Teams are created equal and that there have always been many teams that are able to complete with the ACC teams. You obviously believe that by being in The ACC your daughters team is better than all other teams. It has been pointed out that in normal years many teams beat ACC teams. If you can not understand that this year is not a normal year I don’t know what to tell you. At the end of the day the past year and a half will be a blip on the history of the sport and know for the Covid craziness.
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“ I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.”
What the what ? You are truly pathetic “everyone agrees that the ACC is a good conference” , you can’t even say the words that the ACC is the best conference for lacrosse in both men’s and women’s . You clowns keep bringing up previous years results from many years ago to try and make predictions about this years teams , it’s a ridiculously obtuse argument from if I were a betting man a ridiculously jealous parent who realizes his kids conference is essentially 13th grade. I have not seen where anyone has made any predictions nor have I read any post claiming the ACC is not the best conference. The only thing that has been pointed out is that not all ACC Teams are created equal and that there have always been many teams that are able to complete with the ACC teams. You obviously believe that by being in The ACC your daughters team is better than all other teams. It has been pointed out that in normal years many teams beat ACC teams. If you can not understand that this year is not a normal year I don’t know what to tell you. At the end of the day the past year and a half will be a blip on the history of the sport and know for the Covid craziness. Maybe they can stack their teams with more grad students next year also.
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“ I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.”
What the what ? You are truly pathetic “everyone agrees that the ACC is a good conference” , you can’t even say the words that the ACC is the best conference for lacrosse in both men’s and women’s . You clowns keep bringing up previous years results from many years ago to try and make predictions about this years teams , it’s a ridiculously obtuse argument from if I were a betting man a ridiculously jealous parent who realizes his kids conference is essentially 13th grade. I have not seen where anyone has made any predictions nor have I read any post claiming the ACC is not the best conference. The only thing that has been pointed out is that not all ACC Teams are created equal and that there have always been many teams that are able to complete with the ACC teams. You obviously believe that by being in The ACC your daughters team is better than all other teams. It has been pointed out that in normal years many teams beat ACC teams. If you can not understand that this year is not a normal year I don’t know what to tell you. At the end of the day the past year and a half will be a blip on the history of the sport and know for the Covid craziness. Just when I thought you could not get anymore pathetic you prove me wrong. How sad that you are already trying to diminish the accomplishment of which ever team wins. In actuality winning the championship this season will be an even more difficult task than any prior season in my opinion. Dealing with Covid is hard enough and these young women have had to sacrifice more this year than any other and the fact that many of these teams are much deeper than previous years makes winning it this year an amazing accomplishment. You sadly keep bringing up that in the past ...blah blah, we are talking about this year. If you think 5-10 years from now when one of these players proudly tells their son or daughter that they were a member of the 2021 national championship team that their accomplishment should be diminished because of covid it says more about you than their accomplishment. To change the subject lets see if anyone has some upset predictions for the weekend,
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“ I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.”
What the what ? You are truly pathetic “everyone agrees that the ACC is a good conference” , you can’t even say the words that the ACC is the best conference for lacrosse in both men’s and women’s . You clowns keep bringing up previous years results from many years ago to try and make predictions about this years teams , it’s a ridiculously obtuse argument from if I were a betting man a ridiculously jealous parent who realizes his kids conference is essentially 13th grade. I have not seen where anyone has made any predictions nor have I read any post claiming the ACC is not the best conference. The only thing that has been pointed out is that not all ACC Teams are created equal and that there have always been many teams that are able to complete with the ACC teams. You obviously believe that by being in The ACC your daughters team is better than all other teams. It has been pointed out that in normal years many teams beat ACC teams. If you can not understand that this year is not a normal year I don’t know what to tell you. At the end of the day the past year and a half will be a blip on the history of the sport and know for the Covid craziness. Just when I thought you could not get anymore pathetic you prove me wrong. How sad that you are already trying to diminish the accomplishment of which ever team wins. In actuality winning the championship this season will be an even more difficult task than any prior season in my opinion. Dealing with Covid is hard enough and these young women have had to sacrifice more this year than any other and the fact that many of these teams are much deeper than previous years makes winning it this year an amazing accomplishment. You sadly keep bringing up that in the past ...blah blah, we are talking about this year. If you think 5-10 years from now when one of these players proudly tells their son or daughter that they were a member of the 2021 national championship team that their accomplishment should be diminished because of covid it says more about you than their accomplishment. To change the subject lets see if anyone has some upset predictions for the weekend, Wow, very sensitive. Nobody diminished anything. Pointing out that it is not normal is not diminishing... this year several teams that would normally play and many times beat ACC teams did not play them so it is not normal. Covid has had different affects on different teams, but they all deal with it.
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“ I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.”
What the what ? You are truly pathetic “everyone agrees that the ACC is a good conference” , you can’t even say the words that the ACC is the best conference for lacrosse in both men’s and women’s . You clowns keep bringing up previous years results from many years ago to try and make predictions about this years teams , it’s a ridiculously obtuse argument from if I were a betting man a ridiculously jealous parent who realizes his kids conference is essentially 13th grade. I have not seen where anyone has made any predictions nor have I read any post claiming the ACC is not the best conference. The only thing that has been pointed out is that not all ACC Teams are created equal and that there have always been many teams that are able to complete with the ACC teams. You obviously believe that by being in The ACC your daughters team is better than all other teams. It has been pointed out that in normal years many teams beat ACC teams. If you can not understand that this year is not a normal year I don’t know what to tell you. At the end of the day the past year and a half will be a blip on the history of the sport and know for the Covid craziness. Just when I thought you could not get anymore pathetic you prove me wrong. How sad that you are already trying to diminish the accomplishment of which ever team wins. In actuality winning the championship this season will be an even more difficult task than any prior season in my opinion. Dealing with Covid is hard enough and these young women have had to sacrifice more this year than any other and the fact that many of these teams are much deeper than previous years makes winning it this year an amazing accomplishment. You sadly keep bringing up that in the past ...blah blah, we are talking about this year. If you think 5-10 years from now when one of these players proudly tells their son or daughter that they were a member of the 2021 national championship team that their accomplishment should be diminished because of covid it says more about you than their accomplishment. To change the subject lets see if anyone has some upset predictions for the weekend, Wow, very sensitive. Nobody diminished anything. Pointing out that it is not normal is not diminishing... this year several teams that would normally play and many times beat ACC teams did not play them so it is not normal. Covid has had different affects on different teams, but they all deal with it. You clearly were attempting to diminish whoever wins it this year and if you cannot see that my advice to the guy you are responding to would simply be let go of what you can't fix. My pick for an early upset would be Loyola over Cuse as I believe Cuse would be heavily favored at home against a team they dominated early in the season ,injuries to cuse and Loyola getting better thru out the season makes for an upset.
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“ I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.”
What the what ? You are truly pathetic “everyone agrees that the ACC is a good conference” , you can’t even say the words that the ACC is the best conference for lacrosse in both men’s and women’s . You clowns keep bringing up previous years results from many years ago to try and make predictions about this years teams , it’s a ridiculously obtuse argument from if I were a betting man a ridiculously jealous parent who realizes his kids conference is essentially 13th grade. I have not seen where anyone has made any predictions nor have I read any post claiming the ACC is not the best conference. The only thing that has been pointed out is that not all ACC Teams are created equal and that there have always been many teams that are able to complete with the ACC teams. You obviously believe that by being in The ACC your daughters team is better than all other teams. It has been pointed out that in normal years many teams beat ACC teams. If you can not understand that this year is not a normal year I don’t know what to tell you. At the end of the day the past year and a half will be a blip on the history of the sport and know for the Covid craziness. Just when I thought you could not get anymore pathetic you prove me wrong. How sad that you are already trying to diminish the accomplishment of which ever team wins. In actuality winning the championship this season will be an even more difficult task than any prior season in my opinion. Dealing with Covid is hard enough and these young women have had to sacrifice more this year than any other and the fact that many of these teams are much deeper than previous years makes winning it this year an amazing accomplishment. You sadly keep bringing up that in the past ...blah blah, we are talking about this year. If you think 5-10 years from now when one of these players proudly tells their son or daughter that they were a member of the 2021 national championship team that their accomplishment should be diminished because of covid it says more about you than their accomplishment. To change the subject lets see if anyone has some upset predictions for the weekend, Wow, very sensitive. Nobody diminished anything. Pointing out that it is not normal is not diminishing... this year several teams that would normally play and many times beat ACC teams did not play them so it is not normal. Covid has had different affects on different teams, but they all deal with it. You clearly were attempting to diminish whoever wins it this year and if you cannot see that my advice to the guy you are responding to would simply be let go of what you can't fix. My pick for an early upset would be Loyola over Cuse as I believe Cuse would be heavily favored at home against a team they dominated early in the season ,injuries to cuse and Loyola getting better thru out the season makes for an upset. Disagree, nobody clearly diminished anyone except for the joker who believes every team/conference with the exception of the ACC is 13th grade. The reality is that in "Normal Years" it is only the top 2 ACC teams that dominate. In normal years there are a number of programs that compete with and beat ACC teams during the regular season as well as in the Tournament, they do not knock each other off.
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“ I could be wrong but it appears that only the ACC is the only conference with multiple teams in the tournament that do not have conference opponents in the same bracket.”
What the what ? You are truly pathetic “everyone agrees that the ACC is a good conference” , you can’t even say the words that the ACC is the best conference for lacrosse in both men’s and women’s . You clowns keep bringing up previous years results from many years ago to try and make predictions about this years teams , it’s a ridiculously obtuse argument from if I were a betting man a ridiculously jealous parent who realizes his kids conference is essentially 13th grade. I have not seen where anyone has made any predictions nor have I read any post claiming the ACC is not the best conference. The only thing that has been pointed out is that not all ACC Teams are created equal and that there have always been many teams that are able to complete with the ACC teams. You obviously believe that by being in The ACC your daughters team is better than all other teams. It has been pointed out that in normal years many teams beat ACC teams. If you can not understand that this year is not a normal year I don’t know what to tell you. At the end of the day the past year and a half will be a blip on the history of the sport and know for the Covid craziness. Just when I thought you could not get anymore pathetic you prove me wrong. How sad that you are already trying to diminish the accomplishment of which ever team wins. In actuality winning the championship this season will be an even more difficult task than any prior season in my opinion. Dealing with Covid is hard enough and these young women have had to sacrifice more this year than any other and the fact that many of these teams are much deeper than previous years makes winning it this year an amazing accomplishment. You sadly keep bringing up that in the past ...blah blah, we are talking about this year. If you think 5-10 years from now when one of these players proudly tells their son or daughter that they were a member of the 2021 national championship team that their accomplishment should be diminished because of covid it says more about you than their accomplishment. To change the subject lets see if anyone has some upset predictions for the weekend, Wow, very sensitive. Nobody diminished anything. Pointing out that it is not normal is not diminishing... this year several teams that would normally play and many times beat ACC teams did not play them so it is not normal. Covid has had different affects on different teams, but they all deal with it. You clearly were attempting to diminish whoever wins it this year and if you cannot see that my advice to the guy you are responding to would simply be let go of what you can't fix. My pick for an early upset would be Loyola over Cuse as I believe Cuse would be heavily favored at home against a team they dominated early in the season ,injuries to cuse and Loyola getting better thru out the season makes for an upset. The injuries to Cuse players hasn't effected their play. They have plenty of talent - they don't depend or rely on 1 or 2 players - something you can't say about alot of teams
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--- "The injuries to Cuse players hasn't effected their play. They have plenty of talent - they don't depend or rely on 1 or 2 players - something you can't say about alot of teams"---
What team relies on 1 or 2 players? Last time I checked this is a team sport and there are 12 players on the field for each team. Your statement illustrates one of the things that is wrong with this sport, "Parents who can only see value in scoring goals". Many teams have to deal with injuries every year and there are a lot of teams with plenty of talent.
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--- "The injuries to Cuse players hasn't effected their play. They have plenty of talent - they don't depend or rely on 1 or 2 players - something you can't say about alot of teams"---
What team relies on 1 or 2 players? Last time I checked this is a team sport and there are 12 players on the field for each team. Your statement illustrates one of the things that is wrong with this sport, "Parents who can only see value in scoring goals". Many teams have to deal with injuries every year and there are a lot of teams with plenty of talent. You are so right, UNC has the best offense by far but they would not be undefeated without their defense/goalie
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--- "The injuries to Cuse players hasn't effected their play. They have plenty of talent - they don't depend or rely on 1 or 2 players - something you can't say about alot of teams"---
What team relies on 1 or 2 players? Last time I checked this is a team sport and there are 12 players on the field for each team. Your statement illustrates one of the things that is wrong with this sport, "Parents who can only see value in scoring goals". Many teams have to deal with injuries every year and there are a lot of teams with plenty of talent. You are so right, UNC has the best offense by far but they would not be undefeated without their defense/goalie More times than not (just about all of the time) it is the team with the best Team Defense and solid goalie play that wins The Championship. UNC Midfielders are pretty darn good as well.
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“Disagree, nobody clearly diminished anyone except for the joker who believes every team/conference with the exception of the ACC is 13th grade. The reality is that in "Normal Years" it is only the top 2 ACC teams that dominate. In normal years there are a number of programs that compete with and beat ACC teams during the regular season as well as in the Tournament, they do not knock each other off.”
You again keep going back in history the poster has clearly been talking about this year and obviously believes the ACC is stacked this year as do I . Is it because of grad transfers or better funding or seniors taking the extra year , I don’t know but they seem to have many top teams and yes I struggle to name teams this year that would be more competitive than Notre Dame has been in the ACC . You should tell him a few of the teams now before they play some of the ACC teams in the tournament .
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I --- "The injuries to Cuse players hasn't effected their play. They have plenty of talent - they don't depend or rely on 1 or 2 players - something you can't say about alot of teams"---
What team relies on 1 or 2 players? Last time I checked this is a team sport and there are 12 players on the field for each team. Your statement illustrates one of the things that is wrong with this sport, "Parents who can only see value in scoring goals". Many teams have to deal with injuries every year and there are a lot of teams with plenty of talent. You are so right, UNC has the best offense by far but they would not be undefeated without their defense/goalie More times than not (just about all of the time) it is the team with the best Team Defense and solid goalie play that wins The Championship. UNC Midfielders are pretty darn good as well. While that’s a nice sentiment I am not sure that’s actually true . Looking at some past years results there have been a few shoot outs and I don’t really count the pre-shot clock low scoring games as being about defense as much as stalling in many cases . I think a well balanced team is what gets you thru the whole tournament .
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“Disagree, nobody clearly diminished anyone except for the joker who believes every team/conference with the exception of the ACC is 13th grade. The reality is that in "Normal Years" it is only the top 2 ACC teams that dominate. In normal years there are a number of programs that compete with and beat ACC teams during the regular season as well as in the Tournament, they do not knock each other off.”
You again keep going back in history the poster has clearly been talking about this year and obviously believes the ACC is stacked this year as do I . Is it because of grad transfers or better funding or seniors taking the extra year , I don’t know but they seem to have many top teams and yes I struggle to name teams this year that would be more competitive than Notre Dame has been in the ACC . You should tell him a few of the teams now before they play some of the ACC teams in the tournament . Not the only person responding... I think the point has been made that "this year" is not normal, Very limited cross-over games. In addition to the fact that many traditional top 20 teams have not competed against ACC Teams this year the ACC teams are not all equal. The "ACC Poster" would like us all to believe that all of the ACC teams are dominant and that all other teams with the exception of Northwestern are as he said 13th grade. At the end of the day, we will never know because this in not a "normal year". Opinions are just that, Opinions. Historical perspective is actual reality based on what has actually happened. We will never know about this year because it has been so screwed up. The bottom line is that Louisville is not North Carolina and when we look at what has actually happened over the years there are many teams that can and do compete with and beat ACC Teams.
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I --- "The injuries to Cuse players hasn't effected their play. They have plenty of talent - they don't depend or rely on 1 or 2 players - something you can't say about alot of teams"---
What team relies on 1 or 2 players? Last time I checked this is a team sport and there are 12 players on the field for each team. Your statement illustrates one of the things that is wrong with this sport, "Parents who can only see value in scoring goals". Many teams have to deal with injuries every year and there are a lot of teams with plenty of talent. You are so right, UNC has the best offense by far but they would not be undefeated without their defense/goalie More times than not (just about all of the time) it is the team with the best Team Defense and solid goalie play that wins The Championship. UNC Midfielders are pretty darn good as well. While that’s a nice sentiment I am not sure that’s actually true . Looking at some past years results there have been a few shoot outs and I don’t really count the pre-shot clock low scoring games as being about defense as much as stalling in many cases . I think a well balanced team is what gets you thru the whole tournament . Just another person who spouts nonsense with no basis on reality, facts or actual results. Each of the past 6 National Championships were won by teams that held their opponents to fewer goals than their season average. Team Defense and Good / Great Goaltending is what wins championships. 2014 National Championship: Maryland over Syracuse. Syracuse held to 12 goals, their season average was 14.4. 2015 National Championship: Maryland over UNC. UNC held to 8 goals, their season average was 13.5. 2016 National Championship: UNC over Maryland. Maryland held to 7 goals, their season average was 14.7. 2017 National Championship: Maryland over BC. BC held to 13v goals, their season average was 16. 2018 National Championship: JMU over BC. BC held to 15 goals, their season average was 15.7 2019 National Championship: Maryland over BC. BC held to 10 goals, their season average was 16.8. Shot Clock or no Shot Clock, it is Defense that wins championships. There were no "shoot outs" and BTW, most would consider "stalling" a defensive tactic. Also 5 of the 6 years the team that won The National Championship played Man to Man Defense.... JMU an aberration on many fronts....
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I --- "The injuries to Cuse players hasn't effected their play. They have plenty of talent - they don't depend or rely on 1 or 2 players - something you can't say about alot of teams"---
What team relies on 1 or 2 players? Last time I checked this is a team sport and there are 12 players on the field for each team. Your statement illustrates one of the things that is wrong with this sport, "Parents who can only see value in scoring goals". Many teams have to deal with injuries every year and there are a lot of teams with plenty of talent. You are so right, UNC has the best offense by far but they would not be undefeated without their defense/goalie More times than not (just about all of the time) it is the team with the best Team Defense and solid goalie play that wins The Championship. UNC Midfielders are pretty darn good as well. While that’s a nice sentiment I am not sure that’s actually true . Looking at some past years results there have been a few shoot outs and I don’t really count the pre-shot clock low scoring games as being about defense as much as stalling in many cases . I think a well balanced team is what gets you thru the whole tournament . Just another person who spouts nonsense with no basis on reality, facts or actual results. Each of the past 6 National Championships were won by teams that held their opponents to fewer goals than their season average. Team Defense and Good / Great Goaltending is what wins championships. 2014 National Championship: Maryland over Syracuse. Syracuse held to 12 goals, their season average was 14.4. 2015 National Championship: Maryland over UNC. UNC held to 8 goals, their season average was 13.5. 2016 National Championship: UNC over Maryland. Maryland held to 7 goals, their season average was 14.7. 2017 National Championship: Maryland over BC. BC held to 13v goals, their season average was 16. 2018 National Championship: JMU over BC. BC held to 15 goals, their season average was 15.7 2019 National Championship: Maryland over BC. BC held to 10 goals, their season average was 16.8. Shot Clock or no Shot Clock, it is Defense that wins championships. There were no "shoot outs" and BTW, most would consider "stalling" a defensive tactic. Also 5 of the 6 years the team that won The National Championship played Man to Man Defense.... JMU an aberration on many fronts.... Pitching beats hitting.... ;-)
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