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Neutral party here: I think that because this is anonymous it’s easy to accuse people of different things easily. The posts about this coach could be true. From reading back on this thread and following it it’s clear she came onto this team this fall and has made a positive impact on them and the lacrosse community. If you look at her social media, you’ll clearly see she coaches many high school and middle school level kids from multiple age groups especially the freshman class. I think it would be foolish to say that they are working with her or their isn’t some level of talent behind her coaching. Even if her team lost a game, which all of the teams have at some point, I don’t think that is a negative reflection on her as she just started with that team. Their prior coach, Guedo, had the team before her.

In terms of O’Sullivan: I’m sure the team is great with much potential. I think to place blame on who exactly is stirring the pot about the team is hard to do, again because this is all anonymous. I’m sure they have won and lost games just like 91, YJ Wiener, YJ Kildare, Top Guns, and Legacy. I don’t think that basing opinions of O Sully from of a few games is fair especially in the fall season is terribly accurate.

This thread is not meant to be used to bad mouth directors, clubs, kids, or coaches. It’s meant to support.

So for those giving coaches credit when deserved, please keep doing so. I think given the fact that this thread is constantly filled with negative conversations it’s nice to point out whose doing a good job. For those trying to hurt a young woman’s reputation or talk negatively about teams of 14&15 year olds it may be time to find a new website to post on.

I forgot that you’re not allowed to have your own opinion of a coach. Not everyone is going to agree on Tilts coaching and that’s fine, there was definitely no bad mouthing going on. As long as your kid is getting better while working with a coach, that’s what counts.

It just seems odd to me that we are ok with letting our kids play for people like Andrew Smith but are so quick to jump to negative conclusions on someone most of us have never met. I don’t know the chick but I’m sure she’s a great coach by how far her reach of players goes.

Yeah no point of arguing about this anymore. Everyone will have their own opinion. Good luck to her and the 2024’s this season!

Spread positivity not detest !

It’s clear a YJ Sully kids parent is on here strirring the pot. Gotta love parents trying to promote their club and team by making themselves look like absolute psychos.

May need a team tilts thread with this new battle between one parent versus a dozen of us who actually know the woman.

Hahahaha wait you think I would make comments without knowing her? I’ve coached with her, did trainings with her etc. if anyone actually read my post, I said absolutely nothing bad about her trainings or her for that matter. I made one critique about her GAME time coaching. That is it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I’m so happy she’s making kids feel confident and even getting them better as athletes. She puts tons of work in and no one can take that away from her. She’s busted her butt for these kids.

There’s tons of other things we can talk about in this thread that don’t involve Tilts or YJ o’sullivan

I’ve been a parent of multiple 91 players on both the girls and boys side and know her well. If you’ve coached with her than that limits whoever you are to a 91 employee as she hasn’t worked anywhere else except with two of her friends, one of whom used to coach the 2024 team before she took it over. From knowing her the last six years I can also tell you that she never privately trains kids with anyone else. All of the private lessons she does have been solo and she’s only had two assistant coaches at 91 for as long as I’ve known her. So unless you’re one of those two young ladies she’s worked with, you’re clearly a liar. If you need any evidence that she coaches her butt of during games and has a very clear understanding of the game, sit behind her during a game or listen to game film that hasn’t had the volume removed.

If you have worked with her, I’m curious when. Was it when she was 19 and a freshman in college or recently as an adult.

My guess is you’re a coach from another club looking to ruin a growing teams reputation. This group is to discuss things 2024 related, which she and O’Sullivan are both related to. You are entitled to your own opinion but it’s clear as day that for your one critique there are numerous people stating the opposite. Whatever your hidden agenda is, I disagree with your statement.

Clearly I am bias because I know her well and know that your comment is not accurate at all, but again maybe you don’t know her as well as you think you do.

Also know her but let’s just drop it. Not worth it to entertain the trolls hiding behind a screen.

Who cares! 91 girls is and always has been a weak program despite having many excellent coaches over the years. These are just facts. No matter how good a coach is, you can't expect to be competitive when the girls have no athletic talent. Any girls that do have talent leave do to frustration.

We love adults who tear down kids

Not tearing down kids. Stating facts. I would never shell out thousands of dollars for a weak travel program leading to a dead end. There are plenty of town/PAL teams if a kid just wants to play for fun. If your kid doesn't make and get decent playing time on a true "A" or high level "B" team, you are wasting your time and money. 91 is a C or D level program in all age groups.

LOL we're all wasting our money!!

There are 20 - 25 high end girls per grade each year from Long Island, these are the athletes who receive offers from the Top 10 - 15 programs. The majority of these players have several options (top college programs) and most choose to attend one those programs. Approximately 100 girls go on to play DI lacrosse at one of the many other DI programs and many more girls go on to play at DII, DIII and Club Programs. By your logic unless you are one of the very select “Top 20 -25” girls who can go play at the select 10 or so college programs you should just pack it in and not bother playing because once you go beyond those top college programs the teams talent fall off dramatically.
If you pull the parents out of it, this is the greatest thing that ever happened to female athletes from Long Island. Tremendous opportunity out there at many many schools for student athletes of all abilities ( both athletic and academic abilities).

Love this. Also the fact that lacrosse isn’t just about college. Parents who make it all college no fun have kids who burn out. Kids who aren’t Top A team players can still play D.

Actually, you are. Coach Tilts is great. No argument there. 91 girls is a sham. The problem is the organization, not the coach. You'll learn the hard way. In two years, you see I'm right. You're going to have to do all the work and spend all the money to get your daughter recruited. Then, 91 will happily post it on their Instagram account and list your daughter's commitment on their website. Good luck to you and your daughter.

You’re incorrect but I’m not going to share what they’ve already done for our team with recruiting as freshman as it will just help others. Thanks for your input though.

Is you planning to make the move? Is your daughter a player? Any thoughts on the direction that you are leaning? Don't know if any players are moving clubs. at this point it aybe a bit late to switch clubs in terms of getting enough playing time being that had these kids on the team for quite some time. Wil the coach play your daughter over another player who has been with club for years!? Possibly, let her tryout it certainly can't hurt!!
The only thing that may come into play is if the coach or coaches hear that you are shopping other clubs MAY affect how the coach views and plays your daughter.. this doesn't apply to the majority of coaches, but I've heard one or two horror stories
Of course you have to do what's best for your daughter! I wish you and your daughter nothing but luck !!

I think it depends on the coach. Some coaches take a roster where they feel comfortable with equal playing time while others take a huge roster and bench the lesser players. It’s a conversation to have before making the move. It also is not to late to switch teams. This year is probably the last chance to switch if you’re considering it.

Anyone else notice the kids picked from the lax on showcase are the kids they train or who work with their affiliates such as crease beast? Looks like another political group of women running showcases and trainings.

The parents trying to say O’Sullivan is any good based off a few scrimmages is ridiculous. This team cannot compete at a high level. Those kids should run from their D team ranking.

I noticed this also. Questionable how they chose their all star kids.

I’ve been following a few teams and it seems like top guns black has really gone downhill at this age group. Anyone have any experiences seeing them play- mommy and daddy TG parents excluded

will YJ 24 top two teams play each other in lleague right now at PAL complex? and how are those teams doing?

Most of the clubs mentioned have gotten new players.. let's see what kind of difference it makes each for each team.

There is one team in particular that is definitely gotten stronger!

[quote=Anonymous]will YJ 24 top two teams play each other in lleague right now at PAL complex? and how are those teams doing?

Weiner is currently 0-3 and Kildare is 1-2 and yes they play each other so somebody has to win.

You are exactly right. Pay to play/promote. Proof comes out in a game not just some hype videos on social media.

Hopefully they're all getting better as teams and individuals. Isn't that the goal? Everything else is just noise.

Unfortunately, I think most of us would disagree. I'm sure the kids are great, but the 24 team is less than average and the program is questionable. I've heard some very bad stuff about the coach /owner on the field and off. Anybody know what's going on over. And what colleges are going to Recruit girls there knowing coach/owner past? Not really sure what went down with him. I heard some nasty comments about his coaching, but his past? Does anyone know?
We were all told to Google him, but can't believe everything that is on the internet. Can somebody explain?

And guess what... within a few weeks(Hours for some of us) nobody will care!!

They are playing against great older competition. Did you really expect them to roll? Wiener is missing a few top players as well. Only embarrassing thing is how the two parent coaches play their daughters the whole game. Kind of like an blank to the rest of the team. Guess it’s expected from the mommy coach whose kid really shouldn’t be on the team in the first place.

I’m assuming you’re referring to top guns? Andrew Smith got a DUI. I’ve also noticed the 24 team looks very weak

It’s crazy to me that people still send their kids to yellow jackets knowing how it’s run

In case there was any misunderstanding they were talking about Jesters coach and his club. Google the name. Not everything on the internet is true, so take it with a grain of salt. The talk around town is that the 23 is the only age that's halfway decent.
As for the teams as mentioned, above Jesters 24 is by far weakest of those mentioned above.

Based on what? Did you go watch them in Maryland this fall?

How do you know that? Sounds like someone was doing some serious fishing with their post. People will always find something wrong with a coach, TG, YJ, Jesters. Not a Jesters parent but the spin on this page is crazy.

The jesters 24 coaches are parents ? I do agree that the 24 teams are weak for Jesters.

So after the drama a few days ago over if Tilts was as great as people said, I went digging for game film and through their Instagram. I really disagree with the statement about game time IQ. My daughter and I watched a solid fifteen minutes of their practice that they live streamed. She has friends on the team and is considering moving and has been trying to see what it would be like. Every drill the coach set up was well explained and the reason behind each move was explicitly stated. There were multiple times she stopped kids in the drill to explain why they needed to do something differently. She seems solid, but an opinion I suppose. More importantly the girls were smiling and focus but clearly happy. That’s what matters when all is said and done, no? Nice seeing kids who are being pushed while still loving every step.

The '24 group is weak in general.