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2025 DCE needs to cut some of the “loyalty players” from BLC that have no business on the team before they can get in the elite class.

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Has anyone heard of any decent teams from the new york area in this age group?

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Nope. All stink

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Here’s the story with the 28’s in NY, and no they all don’t stink. 2028 is an extremely talented age group BUT all the best players are spread out between 6 or so teams. At some point you would imagine one team would draw them all, but most of the best travel kids play with their town teams friends on these 6 or so teams. Most teams didn’t make any moves this year due to coronavirus. so you would imagine whoever gets the best results this spring will get the biggest draw of talent. There is also 3-4 other teams that think that they are at the top.

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Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Enjoy it while you can. The team with the most holdback's will start dominating in next few years. My prediction, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks and FCA as years go by. Rest get off them while you can.
5th grade lacrosse. Get an effing grip.

This is where it starts, Your son will not be D1 material with that attitude

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Sweetlax (in NY) is pretty good.

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For Long Island the best kids are spread out amongst 91, Express, Igloo, Legacy, Mooselax, Rebels, Rush and Turtles, unless if there are some big moves or consolidations it is hard to imagine any of them will enter the highest tier. 2Way, Express North and Eclipse are also strong teams from CT.

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Looks like there is 3 spring kick off tourneys before Hoco. What is your club signed up for?

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There is madlax spring madness and the march kickoff invitational. Whats the third?

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looks like new york teams are coming to maryland and delaware in june and umass in july

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Li Express, NJ Express, Hawks, BBL and True all played today in DE
Only games I know are True Annapolis beat BBL
Apparently the LI Express team didn’t practice much before the play day due to COVID.

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Is there a link? I couldn't find the relevant link on Tourney machine.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Enjoy it while you can. The team with the most holdback's will start dominating in next few years. My prediction, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks and FCA as years go by. Rest get off them while you can.
5th grade lacrosse. Get an effing grip.

This is where it starts, Your son will not be D1 material with that attitude

Exactly ! 5th grade is where it all starts. Get on best team with best coaches now or watch as the D1 ship sails on by you.
Frankly, 5th grade may be a year late for most. Each year after 3-4th grade your chance of a D1 trip is less and less.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Enjoy it while you can. The team with the most holdback's will start dominating in next few years. My prediction, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks and FCA as years go by. Rest get off them while you can.
5th grade lacrosse. Get an effing grip.

This is where it starts, Your son will not be D1 material with that attitude

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Li Express, NJ Express, Hawks, BBL and True all played today in DE
Only games I know are True Annapolis beat BBL
Apparently the LI Express team didn’t practice much before the play day due to COVID.

Hawks Dad,

How good or bad were the out of town teams: LI and NJ Express, BBL?

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Was there for my older son and heard from the 28 parents it was not a good showing for the Ny/Nj teams at the 28 level. Saw few of the hawks games and it was not very close. The ny parents were clear that these teams have not practiced much and many did not make the trip. it showed. They have some good talented and athletic kids but did not do the fundamentals very well, not their fault. BBL was the best of the bunch, very physical. LI express had some very good players but turned the ball over and could not get anything started. NJ express got frustrated early and could get possessions.

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Great attitudes dads! Just make it fun or they will all quit and become skateboarders. Seriously though, the good coaches know what an actual athlete looks like and the holdback game doesn’t seem to count for much when they get to high school.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s the story with the 28’s in NY, and no they all don’t stink. 2028 is an extremely talented age group BUT all the best players are spread out between 6 or so teams. At some point you would imagine one team would draw them all, but most of the best travel kids play with their town teams friends on these 6 or so teams. Most teams didn’t make any moves this year due to coronavirus. so you would imagine whoever gets the best results this spring will get the biggest draw of talent. There is also 3-4 other teams that think that they are at the top.

Spot on analysis. Would love to see a team of the top kids from all of those teams.

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Here’s the story with the 28’s in NY, and no they all don’t stink. 2028 is an extremely talented age group BUT all the best players are spread out between 6 or so teams. At some point you would imagine one team would draw them all, but most of the best travel kids play with their town teams friends on these 6 or so teams. Most teams didn’t make any moves this year due to coronavirus. so you would imagine whoever gets the best results this spring will get the biggest draw of talent. There is also 3-4 other teams that think that they are at the top.

Spot on analysis. Would love to see a team of the top kids from all of those teams.

Same thing happened/is happening in Maryland, I think Cutters (which was a solid team) got absorbed into Hawks, FCA got a bunch of Hoco Pink guys (also a good team), and Next Level and MadLax got some Bethesda players. Nature of the beast I guess.

I can't believe all these NY families are shuttling back and forth to DE/MD for like four weeks in a row, sounds like a giant PITA. Good luck to all this weekend.

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There are no Cutters players on Hawks 2028.

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There are no Cutters players on Hawks 2028.
There's holdbacks from Cutters there.

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Looks like some interesting games this weekend.

Next level vs. FCA
Madlax v. Hawks

And a few typically good NY/NJ teams - LI Express, Mad Dog, and Leading Edge - taking on various local teams. Should be interesting.

Anyone know the final allocation on AAA for 2028? Seems like the following is the most likely based on past results and club division preferences, but I guess we’ll know for sure next week.

Madlax
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FCA
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Crabs
True Annapolis
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Looks like some interesting games this weekend.

Next level vs. FCA
Madlax v. Hawks

And a few typically good NY/NJ teams - LI Express, Mad Dog, and Leading Edge - taking on various local teams. Should be interesting.

Anyone know the final allocation on AAA for 2028? Seems like the following is the most likely based on past results and club division preferences, but I guess we’ll know for sure next week.

Madlax
Next Level
FCA
Hawks
Crabs
True Annapolis
Cavs
BLC

2028 will have an Elite division. All of those teams will be in it. There will also be AAA, AA, A divisions. A is the new B.

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Are there any other teams on elite, or just those 8?
What about AAA?

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That will probably be the 8 for elite and it’s a balanced group with a lot of talent. HoCo pink and green hornets were in elite and their players have dispersed. Outside shot for true kp at elite but only if a team like BLC wants to go to AAA. For AAA, cannons, sidewinders, HLC, FLC, Swarm (perry hall), Forrest hill, one of the true teams and maybe Madlax dmv or hawks black. After that it is anybody’s guess since most of the teams will be newly formed since they missed a year due to covid.

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Nope, no cutters or cutter holdbacks.

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That will probably be the 8 for elite and it’s a balanced group with a lot of talent. HoCo pink and green hornets were in elite and their players have dispersed. Outside shot for true kp at elite but only if a team like BLC wants to go to AAA. For AAA, cannons, sidewinders, HLC, FLC, Swarm (perry hall), Forrest hill, one of the true teams and maybe Madlax dmv or hawks black. After that it is anybody’s guess since most of the teams will be newly formed since they missed a year due to covid.

I have seen the leaked alignment. Here are the AAA teams. There could be a little more movement.

Hoco Pink
FCA White
Cannons
Eastside
HLC
Blue Claws
Team 91
Forest Hill Select
Sidewinders

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Would be Interesting if none of the True teams play AAA.

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Would be Interesting if none of the True teams play AAA.

True Annapolis Green will be in Elite. The rest of the True teams (Baltimore and Annapolis B) are in AA or A I think. None in AAA. There is no B division anymore.

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Would be Interesting if none of the True teams play AAA.

True Annapolis Green will be in Elite. The rest of the True teams (Baltimore and Annapolis B) are in AA or A I think. None in AAA. There is no B division anymore.


Maybe true Kelly post? They’d have to be somewhere right?

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Would be Interesting if none of the True teams play AAA.

True Annapolis Green will be in Elite. The rest of the True teams (Baltimore and Annapolis B) are in AA or A I think. None in AAA. There is no B division anymore.


Maybe true Kelly post? They’d have to be somewhere right?

Forgot about them. I believe True KP is slotted for Elite.

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Saw the Thaw this weekend but only 3 teams, not sure if there are more. Hawks and Madlax were pretty close, NXT struggled. Talked to one of the NXT parents, they said they had only practiced a few times and only 1x per week.

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Based on this weekend, I think it is clear that the top five teams are all pretty close - Next Level, FCA, Madlax, Hawks, and Crabs. And then there is a wide gulf between those five and everyone else.

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Based on this weekend, I think it is clear that the top five teams are all pretty close - Next Level, FCA, Madlax, Hawks, and Crabs. And then there is a wide gulf between those five and everyone else.

I might add True Annapolis Green to the mix. After those 6 teams, not a huge difference between other Elite teams and AAA teams. Most can beat each other on any given day.

Going to be an awesome spring season.

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Guess the Long Island teams can hang after all. Looks like Express was competitive all weekend and they are not the best of the bunch on the island

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The records in play among the top 6 teams I could find on tourney machine in the fall and spring of this year:

Next Level - 6-1. Wins - FCA (by 5 and 1), Crabs (6 and 1), Madlax (by 4), Hawks (by 2). Loss FCA by 2.

Hawks 1-1. Win over Madlax by 2. Loss to NL by 2.

FCA 1-2. Two losses to NL, one win over NL.

Madlax 1-2. Win over True by 8. Losses to NL by 4 and Hawks by 2.

Crabs. 0-2. Two losses to NL.

True. 0-1. Loss to Madlax by 8.

Might be other games I didn’t see and didn’t look at last summer.

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Was the LI Express team the same team that played in the DE play day last weekend?

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Madlax beat FCA in a scrimmage in Fall 9-4

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Was the LI Express team the same team that played in the DE play day last weekend?
Same team

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If the rumored elite division containing the following 10 teams is correct, there are going to be a lot of non-competitive games in elite.

Hawks
Next Level
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
True Annapolis
True Kelly Post
BLC
HLC
Cavs

Kelly Post, BLC, HLC, and Cavs are going to post a ton of 10-15 goal losses against the top five teams like happened this weekend. Those teams would all be better off playing in AAA as they are not remotely competitive with the top teams. Also this will create some crazy discrepancies in schedules. A team could theoretically make the playoffs by beating BLC, HLC, Cavs, and KP.

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