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3D Maryland , Dc express orange ? 3d Maryland ceased operations at the end of the summer and no longer exists. DCE Orange is not playing in this league as I understand it.
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2025 Initial HoCo Alignment
Elite
Crabs
Next Level Blue
Team 91
Annapolis Hawks Green
FCA
Madlax Capital
Looneys
DC Express
True Annapolis Green
Cannons Gold
AAA
Koopers
Zingos Black
Green Turtle
PLC
Team MD LC
Annapolis Hawks Black
VLC
Sidewinders
AA
Breakers Blue
HLC
ALC
Rock A
Top Caliber
FLC
Cannons Blue
Next Level Red
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True Baltimore
Breakers Orange
Mesa MD
Madlax DMV
Hard Lax Elite
HoCo Pink
Rock B
Roughriders
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True Annapolis White
Zingos
Blue Claws
HoCo Black
PLC
Ville Lacrose
Baltimore Elite LC
OGBC Is that FLC, Fallston Lacrosse Club? If so, how in God's name is FLC fielding an AA team after their entire AAA team bailed to Koopers? Let’s be honest Kooper’s isn’t much better in terms of lacrosse talent and ridiculously overpriced. You should be focused on your son’s FCA team that is essentially collapsing in front of your eyes.
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Don't have a kid in the Fallston program, thankfully. That whole scenario was crazy.
One goalie bails, everyone else gets happy feet.
They literally took the ENTIRE AA Fallston team and moved it to Koopers.
Same exact kids, same exact coaching, further drive for families, less field time.
So those parents are now paying 2k extra for the EXACT same product, (possibly worse).
The only difference is the uniform...and Klausner now gets a taste.
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Elite should not have 10 teams. It should be something earned and only given to the Top 8 teams at each level. Watering it down with 2 additional teams makes for unfair scheduling and a good chance that a top team gets lost. You only play 7 games so you could end up playing the best 7 teams in the league and another mediocre team plays the bottom 3 and beats you out for a playoff spot. Treat Elite like it should be. Make the teams earn it based on past performance in HoCo over the years and how they have faired at tournaments.
2025 should be - the top 5 are no-brainers!
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Madlax
DC Express
FCA
Next Level - based on how they have faired over the past year.
Crabs - based on winning AAA in 2019 and tournaments over the past year.
True Annapolis - based on how they have done in tournaments over the past year
Looneys - they could slip in over True, but haven't faired as well over the past year and had a bad 2019 year at Elite level
Cannons - should be out - terrible 2019 record in Elite as well as poor performances against Elite teams the past year at tournaments.
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Elite should not have 10 teams. It should be something earned and only given to the Top 8 teams at each level. Watering it down with 2 additional teams makes for unfair scheduling and a good chance that a top team gets lost. You only play 7 games so you could end up playing the best 7 teams in the league and another mediocre team plays the bottom 3 and beats you out for a playoff spot. Treat Elite like it should be. Make the teams earn it based on past performance in HoCo over the years and how they have faired at tournaments.
2025 should be - the top 5 are no-brainers!
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FCA
Next Level - based on how they have faired over the past year.
Crabs - based on winning AAA in 2019 and tournaments over the past year.
True Annapolis - based on how they have done in tournaments over the past year
Looneys - they could slip in over True, but haven't faired as well over the past year and had a bad 2019 year at Elite level
Cannons - should be out - terrible 2019 record in Elite as well as poor performances against Elite teams the past year at tournaments. Crabs should not be considered for the Elite. They were 2-4 in the fall with losses to every Elite division team they played (DCE & FCA, win vs Looney's doesn't count because they are not Elite either), and a loss to True Annapolis Green. And they just lost to Zingos last weekend.
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Don't have a kid in the Fallston program, thankfully. That whole scenario was crazy.
One goalie bails, everyone else gets happy feet.
They literally took the ENTIRE AA Fallston team and moved it to Koopers.
Same exact kids, same exact coaching, further drive for families, less field time.
So those parents are now paying 2k extra for the EXACT same product, (possibly worse).
The only difference is the uniform...and Klausner now gets a taste. It’s all about the uniform, don’t you know this?
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Don't have a kid in the Fallston program, thankfully. That whole scenario was crazy.
One goalie bails, everyone else gets happy feet.
They literally took the ENTIRE AA Fallston team and moved it to Koopers.
Same exact kids, same exact coaching, further drive for families, less field time.
So those parents are now paying 2k extra for the EXACT same product, (possibly worse).
The only difference is the uniform...and Klausner now gets a taste. It’s all about the uniform, don’t you know this? Yup. As a community-based team, one that had grown it the right way, that saw some success, I thought Fallston was well-run enough, and their parents loyal enough to avoid the lure of overpriced, for-profit bs. Goes to show you what a few, "grass is greener" parents can do. But hey, they can do what they want with their money. There will always be a for-profit club willing to absorb a community team or "add another team" for a buck, and to keep the lights on...for another month.
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Don't have a kid in the Fallston program, thankfully. That whole scenario was crazy.
One goalie bails, everyone else gets happy feet.
They literally took the ENTIRE AA Fallston team and moved it to Koopers.
Same exact kids, same exact coaching, further drive for families, less field time.
So those parents are now paying 2k extra for the EXACT same product, (possibly worse).
The only difference is the uniform...and Klausner now gets a taste. It’s all about the uniform, don’t you know this? The FLC 2025 coaches; ironically, have been the ones all along ripping club lacrosse for years while driving the entire Fallston program into the ground with selfish behavior. Those 3 coaches are an absolute embarrassment to lacrosse; way to leave your mark fellas, the Fallston Rec Program thanks you!!
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Elite should not have 10 teams. It should be something earned and only given to the Top 8 teams at each level. Watering it down with 2 additional teams makes for unfair scheduling and a good chance that a top team gets lost. You only play 7 games so you could end up playing the best 7 teams in the league and another mediocre team plays the bottom 3 and beats you out for a playoff spot. Treat Elite like it should be. Make the teams earn it based on past performance in HoCo over the years and how they have faired at tournaments.
2025 should be - the top 5 are no-brainers!
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Madlax
DC Express
FCA
Next Level - based on how they have faired over the past year.
Crabs - based on winning AAA in 2019 and tournaments over the past year.
True Annapolis - based on how they have done in tournaments over the past year
Looneys - they could slip in over True, but haven't faired as well over the past year and had a bad 2019 year at Elite level
Cannons - should be out - terrible 2019 record in Elite as well as poor performances against Elite teams the past year at tournaments. Crabs should not be considered for the Elite. They were 2-4 in the fall with losses to every Elite division team they played (DCE & FCA, win vs Looney's doesn't count because they are not Elite either), and a loss to True Annapolis Green. And they just lost to Zingos last weekend. LOL.... are you an adult? Please show some respect for yourself and tell me that you do not stalk 13/14 year old lacrosse? Reciting records and opponents is totally creepy dude! Get a life
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Was this a typo or has HOCO just changed it's policy allowing kids playing high school sports to play in the HOCO 8th grade league? "The Conference follows a grade-based system based on the player’s current grade level. Players who are participating in ANY high-school level program such as a high school freshman, JV-B, junior varsity, or varsity team are NOW eligible for the 8th grade division. "
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Elite should not have 10 teams. It should be something earned and only given to the Top 8 teams at each level. Watering it down with 2 additional teams makes for unfair scheduling and a good chance that a top team gets lost. You only play 7 games so you could end up playing the best 7 teams in the league and another mediocre team plays the bottom 3 and beats you out for a playoff spot. Treat Elite like it should be. Make the teams earn it based on past performance in HoCo over the years and how they have faired at tournaments.
2025 should be - the top 5 are no-brainers!
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Hawks
Madlax
DC Express
FCA
Next Level - based on how they have faired over the past year.
Crabs - based on winning AAA in 2019 and tournaments over the past year.
True Annapolis - based on how they have done in tournaments over the past year
Looneys - they could slip in over True, but haven't faired as well over the past year and had a bad 2019 year at Elite level
Cannons - should be out - terrible 2019 record in Elite as well as poor performances against Elite teams the past year at tournaments. Crabs should not be considered for the Elite. They were 2-4 in the fall with losses to every Elite division team they played (DCE & FCA, win vs Looney's doesn't count because they are not Elite either), and a loss to True Annapolis Green. And they just lost to Zingos last weekend.
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Elite should not have 10 teams. It should be something earned and only given to the Top 8 teams at each level. Watering it down with 2 additional teams makes for unfair scheduling and a good chance that a top team gets lost. You only play 7 games so you could end up playing the best 7 teams in the league and another mediocre team plays the bottom 3 and beats you out for a playoff spot. Treat Elite like it should be. Make the teams earn it based on past performance in HoCo over the years and how they have faired at tournaments.
2025 should be - the top 5 are no-brainers!
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Hawks
Madlax
DC Express
FCA
Next Level - based on how they have faired over the past year.
Crabs - based on winning AAA in 2019 and tournaments over the past year.
True Annapolis - based on how they have done in tournaments over the past year
Looneys - they could slip in over True, but haven't faired as well over the past year and had a bad 2019 year at Elite level
Cannons - should be out - terrible 2019 record in Elite as well as poor performances against Elite teams the past year at tournaments. Crabs should not be considered for the Elite. They were 2-4 in the fall with losses to every Elite division team they played (DCE & FCA, win vs Looney's doesn't count because they are not Elite either), and a loss to True Annapolis Green. And they just lost to Zingos last weekend. Crabs won AAA - I say that gives them a reason to be there. While they lost some games in the fall doesn't mean they can't compete this spring in Elite.
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Elite should not have 10 teams. It should be something earned and only given to the Top 8 teams at each level. Watering it down with 2 additional teams makes for unfair scheduling and a good chance that a top team gets lost. You only play 7 games so you could end up playing the best 7 teams in the league and another mediocre team plays the bottom 3 and beats you out for a playoff spot. Treat Elite like it should be. Make the teams earn it based on past performance in HoCo over the years and how they have faired at tournaments.
2025 should be - the top 5 are no-brainers!
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Hawks
Madlax
DC Express
FCA
Next Level - based on how they have faired over the past year.
Crabs - based on winning AAA in 2019 and tournaments over the past year.
True Annapolis - based on how they have done in tournaments over the past year
Looneys - they could slip in over True, but haven't faired as well over the past year and had a bad 2019 year at Elite level
Cannons - should be out - terrible 2019 record in Elite as well as poor performances against Elite teams the past year at tournaments. Crabs should not be considered for the Elite. They were 2-4 in the fall with losses to every Elite division team they played (DCE & FCA, win vs Looney's doesn't count because they are not Elite either), and a loss to True Annapolis Green. And they just lost to Zingos last weekend. Crabs lost to Zingos? Do tell!
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Elite should not have 10 teams. It should be something earned and only given to the Top 8 teams at each level. Watering it down with 2 additional teams makes for unfair scheduling and a good chance that a top team gets lost. You only play 7 games so you could end up playing the best 7 teams in the league and another mediocre team plays the bottom 3 and beats you out for a playoff spot. Treat Elite like it should be. Make the teams earn it based on past performance in HoCo over the years and how they have faired at tournaments.
2025 should be - the top 5 are no-brainers!
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Hawks
Madlax
DC Express
FCA
Next Level - based on how they have faired over the past year.
Crabs - based on winning AAA in 2019 and tournaments over the past year.
True Annapolis - based on how they have done in tournaments over the past year
Looneys - they could slip in over True, but haven't faired as well over the past year and had a bad 2019 year at Elite level
Cannons - should be out - terrible 2019 record in Elite as well as poor performances against Elite teams the past year at tournaments.
Crabs should not be considered for the Elite. They were 2-4 in the fall with losses to every Elite division team they played (DCE & FCA, win vs Looney's doesn't count because they are not Elite either), and a loss to True Annapolis Green. And they just lost to Zingos last weekend.
Crabs lost to Zingos? Do tell! Lost to Zingo's...That's a low blow
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Lost to Zingo's...That's a low blow...
Not sure why losing to Zingos 2025 is a low blow. They are #28 on the US club lacrosse rankings and are going to the WSYL East Regional. Is there something that we're missing here?
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Lost to Zingo's...That's a low blow...
Not sure why losing to Zingos 2025 is a low blow. They are #28 on the US club lacrosse rankings and are going to the WSYL East Regional. Is there something that we're missing here? hahahahahahahahaha...... not a Crabs fan but 1) Zingo's is a decent team 2) Its a scrimmage - no one should care what happens? lol 3) I hear Crabs had a couple of their main guns out 4) who cares ????
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Lost to Zingo's...That's a low blow...
Not sure why losing to Zingos 2025 is a low blow. They are #28 on the US club lacrosse rankings and are going to the WSYL East Regional. Is there something that we're missing here? hahahahahahahahaha...... not a Crabs fan but 1) Zingo's is a decent team 2) Its a scrimmage - no one should care what happens? lol 3) I hear Crabs had a couple of their main guns out 4) who cares ???? According to USCL, Zingos SoS is 84 but ranked 28? Coupled with a losing record against mostly mediocre competition last summer, I'd say that's below average, not decent. And anybody can register for WSYL. Come back if they actually qualify.
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Yes treat the elite like a high school freshman team I agree completely
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Lost to Zingo's...That's a low blow...
Not sure why losing to Zingos 2025 is a low blow. They are #28 on the US club lacrosse rankings and are going to the WSYL East Regional. Is there something that we're missing here? hahahahahahahahaha...... not a Crabs fan but 1) Zingo's is a decent team 2) Its a scrimmage - no one should care what happens? lol 3) I hear Crabs had a couple of their main guns out 4) who cares ???? I like how you write the man guns comment and then write who cares. You do, dude.
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Lost to Zingo's...That's a low blow...
Not sure why losing to Zingos 2025 is a low blow. They are #28 on the US club lacrosse rankings and are going to the WSYL East Regional. Is there something that we're missing here? hahahahahahahahaha...... not a Crabs fan but 1) Zingo's is a decent team 2) Its a scrimmage - no one should care what happens? lol 3) I hear Crabs had a couple of their main guns out 4) who cares ???? Thou thinks someone dos protest to much. LOL. Looks like you are knee deep in caring.
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Hey HoCo league people. Get the schedule out! Stop sending teams their first game days before the season is supposed to start and then not giving any more than that. Get it together! My daughter’s league schedule is out and they start after HoCo league does. We are a week away!!!!!
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Don't have a kid in the Fallston program, thankfully. That whole scenario was crazy.
One goalie bails, everyone else gets happy feet.
They literally took the ENTIRE AA Fallston team and moved it to Koopers.
Same exact kids, same exact coaching, further drive for families, less field time.
So those parents are now paying 2k extra for the EXACT same product, (possibly worse).
The only difference is the uniform...and Klausner now gets a taste. I guess you didnt get invited to Koopers. Have your son.... Hit The Wall !!
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About time. They will compete
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Hey HoCo league people. Get the schedule out! Stop sending teams their first game days before the season is supposed to start and then not giving any more than that. Get it together! My daughter’s league schedule is out and they start after HoCo league does. We are a week away!!!!! I'm sure the folks at Park and Recs read the board and get right on it
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I guess you didnt get invited to Koopers. Have your son.... Hit The Wall !!
Funniest post ever here. Like you have to be invited to play Koopers!!! More like they take anyone who can't make an Elite level team. No Invites required. Just show up and pay your fee
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Hey HoCo league people. Get the schedule out! Stop sending teams their first game days before the season is supposed to start and then not giving any more than that. Get it together! My daughter’s league schedule is out and they start after HoCo league does. We are a week away!!!!! I'm sure the folks at Park and Recs read the board and get right on it At least they've finally opened the bleachers.
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EVERY kid got invited to Koopers. Don't have a kid in the Fallston program, thankfully. That whole scenario was crazy.
One goalie bails, everyone else gets happy feet.
They literally took the ENTIRE AA Fallston team and moved it to Koopers.
Same exact kids, same exact coaching, further drive for families, less field time.
So those parents are now paying 2k extra for the EXACT same product, (possibly worse).
The only difference is the uniform...and Klausner now gets a taste. I guess you didnt get invited to Koopers. Have your son.... Hit The Wall !! EVERY kid got invited to Koopers.
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Second revision of placements released. Some more movement.
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Hey HoCo league people. Get the schedule out! Stop sending teams their first game days before the season is supposed to start and then not giving any more than that. Get it together! My daughter’s league schedule is out and they start after HoCo league does. We are a week away!!!!! I'm sure the folks at Park and Recs read the board and get right on it Oh yeah they do.
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Released by Ricky at HoCo to coaches.
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Zingos 2025. curious whether the team has any holdbacks that won't be eligible for WSYL...
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Zingos 2025. curious whether the team has any holdbacks that won't be eligible for WSYL... I don't think it will matter much 
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Released by Ricky at HoCo to coaches. Schedules were?
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I guess you didnt get invited to Koopers. Have your son.... Hit The Wall !!
Funniest post ever here. Like you have to be invited to play Koopers!!! More like they take anyone who can't make an Elite level team. No Invites required. Just show up and pay your fee Got it , No invite and jealous. Tell junior to Hit The Wall !!
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No schedules yet. Games next week though.
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Zingos 2025. curious whether the team has any holdbacks that won't be eligible for WSYL... I don't think it will matter much Jeez random post in the wrong thread. They have 2 who were born 2 and 4 days before the cut off. We were on that team last year that got invited sense qualifiers were canceled. [We have a conflict this year]. They will have a problem against the all-star teams because they won't use the radius but I applaud them for sticking with their players.
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Released by Ricky at HoCo to coaches. Can someone post 2025? How do they determine movement? Why did Cannons get moved?
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Season starts in 5 days and no schedule. What is the deal?
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