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No argument there.

They bring older kids and still lose all the time?

So the #1 team in the Country only beat a team 8-3 that lacks skill except for 1 kid. Gotta be Hawks Dad here considering that one kid is the one they are trying to steal from us. Good luck in the future once puberty hits.

Where I HAVENT been is watching your son's Crabs team play. That's why I asked.

Too bad you are the one with the misunderstanding.......
Mesa at Summer Exposure was the Mesa Pa team. Listed as the Severna Park team but every parent I spoke with on the sidelines was from the Philly area. It was Mesa Pa at summer exposure, not the SP team. The SP team had not even officially formed at the time.[/quote]

Who knows, and who cares, whether it was the PA or SP Mesa team? Obviously VLC had a big win in their first game and a big let down in their second game. But having watched the Mesa team play yesterday, they are not bad at all. They are well coached and had a great goalie (no, I am not the goalie Dad). They were good enough to smack down a good VLC team when it did not bring its A game, and good enough to play Looneys and Crabs without being totally blown out. I'd say that puts them in the top 20 in the country. Wherever that Mesa team is from, good on them for playing in an extremely competitive field and going 1-2.[/quote]

So a team that is 1-7 in two tournaments should now be top 20, dream on lol. A parent told me yesterday they lost all their games since summer except vlc, and many players are older.[/quote]

They bring older kids and still lose all the time?[/quote]

Must be a stunard. If you bring older kids you are not supposed to lose. Who coaches this?

The Hawks have 4 holdbacks. They were heldback before kindergarten and all turned 13 this summer. The Crabs have 9? kids who are repeating 7th grade most of who played on their 2025 team.

Who knows, and who cares, whether it was the PA or SP Mesa team? Obviously VLC had a big win in their first game and a big let down in their second game. But having watched the Mesa team play yesterday, they are not bad at all. They are well coached and had a great goalie (no, I am not the goalie Dad). They were good enough to smack down a good VLC team when it did not bring its A game, and good enough to play Looneys and Crabs without being totally blown out. I'd say that puts them in the top 20 in the country. Wherever that Mesa team is from, good on them for playing in an extremely competitive field and going 1-2.[/quote]

So a team that is 1-7 in two tournaments should now be top 20, dream on lol. A parent told me yesterday they lost all their games since summer except vlc, and many players are older.[/quote]

They bring older kids and still lose all the time?[/quote]

Must be a stunard. If you bring older kids you are not supposed to lose. Who coaches this?[/quote]

Philly stunard!

My wife pointed out during the Hawks v Crabs game that #22 of the Hawks who has been the teams top player for years was not playing in yesterday’s game. It was a great game played by many solid players. This being said I would love to see him on the field next time these two teams play one another.

If true, that's sad. And they still lost yesterday and in the fall league? Great decision parents.

Just tell your son to give up lax now if you rely on your wife for intel. I hear the local chess club is looking for new members.

Actually you’re the one who should give up. His wife’s intel was correct.

Funny you say that as my son is a decent enough lacrosse player and a really good chess player too.

So based on the lack of response to the World Series questions, is it safe to assume that there will be little to no Maryland/DC/VA representation at the WSYL??

I know they have Crabs Old Bay team, will they be renaming the 2026 team Crabs Old Man team. The beauty is the parents know it and can't even say anything when you make fun of them and their kid to their face so they just walk away. HAHAHAHA

#22 is hurt and hasnt played or practiced in weeks
#44 just got a cast off and dressed but did not play but a few minutes

That can't be possible. That big #22 is the only reason they won games the past 4 years. He was their whole team, no way they win without him. It can't be the coaching. All he does is scream and yell

Hawks are in for WSYL

Anyone else? I guess that proves us northerners wrong on the thought that the Hawks were mostly holdbacks. But that must be the case for the rest of the teams. Certainly sounds like the Crabs are this year.

Hawks recent adds at attack #3 and #5 are impact players but without #22 it seemed to me the defense of crabs sagged down to stop them. If #22 were playing at the level he has played for the past few years would put pressure on the defense above the crease and prevent this sag. The result from what I saw on Sunday would be forcing the defense to stretch thereby opening up space to dodge for the attack. Anyone else have an opinion on this view?

1 Hawk dad talking to himself. Funny stuff here 🤣

Crabs??? Probably not with their new holdback version of 2026. Maybe all of those kids can play on the 14yo WSYL Crabs team.

You are spot on about the parents. But try not to go after the kids. It was not their choice to be held back, especially within the same club/school. It was their parent’s choice to do that to them. Don’t shame the kid. I am sure they have enough to worry about their former teammates behind the scenes on social media.

They have a lot more than just #22 now. The coach was removed.

I don't think it is safe to assume anything based on a response, or lack of response, on this board. I suspect that 95% of the posts are from a dozen or so people who do a nice job of entertaining themselves, but are a very small sample of the 2026 lacrosse world, and not necessarily the most informed, and always with an agenda. If you want actual information such as who is playing WSYL, try a more reliable and less anonymous source.

22 is hurt and hasnt played or practiced in weeks
#44 just got a cast off and dressed but did not play but a few minutes[/quote]

That can't be possible. That big #22 is the only reason they won games the past 4 years. He was their whole team, no way they win without him. It can't be the coaching. All he does is scream and yell[/quote]
They have a lot more than just #22 now. The coach was removed.[/quote]

HUH?????

They removed the coach?

Now we know why they ducked fall HOCO & didn't have the guts to play us!

He is not a hold back. He’s not even new to the team. Why do ppl keep saying the team has a bunch of hold backs, it’s just not true. Honestly.

It isn’t true. Crabs does not have a bunch of hold backs. My son is one of the biggest kids and he definitely is not a hold back, and will never be. My hubby and I are counting the days until they leave for college lol

Adults making fun of children? Really? That’s just pathetic. Sorry but if you are, you need a life. Our sons are playing the sport, not us. Have perspective. Stop living through your kid which is making him secretly resent you. Maybe spend more time checking on his grades and less on boards.

Mom, how many 2026's were on the 2025 team last year?

Why don't you follow your own advice. Trust me you won't be missed on this board.

One thing is for sure. Crabs parents didn't check on grades. Not only do they play kids 2 years younger, they get to do the same work in school they did last year. Duh duh duh duh I play crabs duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

The holdback critics on this board are not making fun of children, they are making fun of their parents. But, certain Hawks Dads do have a habit of making fun of opposing players on the sidelines, which is unfortunate.

The reality is hold backs are common whether you like it or not now and its common place on all teams. Now, dont claim to not hold back when we have been playing the same kids for years now and mysteriously all these new faces show up. Dont forget we go to the same tournaments and seen these kids playing for the same organization but at a different age group. People arent notIntelligent. The lacrosse world in out area is pretty small

The Holdback Argument has been beaten to death!! Blame the MIAA and their rules committee; that is where the fault lies. Teams that have kids that are held back, reclassed, pre-k etc. are still within the established rules. Stop making excuses to why your team lost and tell your son to keep grinding. Next topic Please. Oh and my son is not a holdback and on age playing in the elite division.

The rumors just don’t stop. The coach is still the same coach since they were in 3rd grade. He does much more than scream and yell. He has mentored and driven these kids in many ways. #22 is hurt. No fall Hoco because the coach believes the kids should still play other sports as well and most of them are on the football field all fall. Any other rumors needing to be addressed? And yes the Hawks and #22 are playing WSYL.

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!???????

[ChillLaxin] stain on the sport.

It hasn't been beaten on enough and it needs to change. Calendar year should be the standard, not how many years of extra private school your family can afford.

[[ChillLaxin] stain on the sport.

It hasn't been beaten on enough and it needs to change. Calendar year should be the standard, not how many years of extra private school your family can afford.[/quote]

Agreed. I can understand the pre-K "holdback" more than the middle school holdback. The later is exactly what is wrong with the sport.