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That is very apparent.

Look at the national rankings, Summer tournament results or HoCo

What about them?

Okay, then list the teams in HoCo who you classify as Elite.

If you want to know which teams are elite and which are not.

You guys really know all the birthdays on your team? My son has been on the same squad for 3 years and I probably only know half of the birthdays.

If VLC only has kids born after Sept 1, 2007 then it should be competing in the World Series of Youth Lacrosse (WSYL) in 2021. The Finals will be held in Maryland July 1-3, 2021 so distance/expense not an issue. March 27-28 is the East qualifying games for DMV & PA regions. Those games are in Delaware. VLC Dads is your team signed up?

For the fellow who was blowing the Hawks horn earlier, why are you so confident Hawks will beat CrabsA this weekend. The Crabs have evolved their roster and added a number of older 2025 kids to their roster. You can beat on the hold back argument all you want but their roster is within the rules. So with all of these changes and upgrades and almost no roster movement by Hawks coming into the Fall how can you be so dismissive of the Crabs chance at beating Hawks? One way or another this topic will be resolved by middle of this coming Sunday, but I am interested in what drives your confidence. Likewise, Looneys is a really good team who beat Express this summer. Why are you so confident Hawks will beat them if they play each other? Are the Hawks players really that good in your opinion?

VLC is elite and plays without any holdbacks

The sooner you learn that 95% of the Hawks chatter on here is not actually from the Hawks parents, the better off you will be. And at the end of the day, if the Crabs win or lose. They still held kids back in the 7th grade for the sake of lacrosse. I can pick the clear winner already!!

Every tournament needs a doormat to stomp on

Maybe they should pick some up or drop down. Doesn't look like it's working!

And the winner.....in your opinion.....will be?????!

They did well in all Summer tournaments and was in 3rd place at HoCo. I am sure they would like to pick up some reclasses. Focusing on developing the real 2026s isn't a bad idea either. Looneys, Crabs and Hawks are all good teams. They made their choice of how they want to compete. BLC didn't have too many reclasses either. Not sure about MadLax. Point is well taken from this forum discussion: reclasses are common. We all need to acknowledge that and take it as part of the game rather than complaining about it.

The "95% theory" would explain why Hawk parents always represent the program so badly on this board; over-invested, insecure sports parents. The only problem with that theory is that things said said on this board are very similar to what Hawks Dads routinely yell during games.

VLC dad sounds like PLC dad from a few years ago. Insistent that their team deserved to play elite, then when they didn't said that they would embarrass every team in the AAA division as they went on to lose several games.

They did well this summer? Didn't they lose Blue Hen Classic to PA Roughriders which included a star studded field of NXT, Next Level and some other B level teams. If you can't win against that competition you are far from elite.

MadLax has at least one re-classed player, but not very many. BLC has a lot of Mater Dei kids so I expect that they have plenty of holdbacks.

Having seen VLC twice this fall, they are not at the Hawks/Looneys/Crabs level, but they beat FCA and BLC, and did well enough in summer tournaments to be ranked 13th nationally. Headed into spring I would peg them somewhere between 5 and 7 in the HoCo elite division. If indeed they have no holdbacks (which I find a bit hard to believe) that is not bad.

VLC also beat PA RR earlier that weekend, and there was no actual championship game. N0 one i saying VLC is the best team in the world, but as a top 20 team in the country you can't say they aren't elite.

They are elite with hardly any holdbacks and should do well this year.

vlc doesn't have many holdbacks

Mesa South/Green Hornets 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played at Summer Exposure, not MESA PA

Mesa Futures Orange (PA) played Summer Exposure in the AA bracket

Mesa South played way down like they should

Stop it Crabs dad. Holdbacks have nothing to do with it because both teams have them. Both held tryouts, one needed a lot of 25’s to reclass to finally become competitive, Hawks didn’t need to change much. Your new players are not enough to beat Hawks if you still can’t beat Looneys. But you are right, the topic will be resolved this weekend.

Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played in the AA bracket, they went 0-4

https://www.tourneymachine.com/Publ...ivision=h20200624133833756bd2fb39887b340

I hope the floppy hat guy with jeans shorts is there. Will Rage put on a show for the masses?

I am not a Hawks or Crabs dad, but I dont see how "almost no roster movement" by the top team is a bad thing for them.

Why is everybody dumping on Mesa?

First its Green Hornets rec lacrosse dressed up as a club team - pay $200 or $2k - you tell me

No reason, just a new team to dump on. Next week it will be a different team that attempts to play up a division.

Agreed. Ideally, if you have a good team you are really only turning over one or two of the bottom players each year. My son's team has 6 new players, I am sure that they will take more time to gel.

Don't try to explain it to a Crabs dad, they can't even get their kids through 7th grade in one year!!!

Hawks could have run up the score in Summer exposure and didn't. Not a Hawks dad but must give credit where it is due. I think the Looneys matchup this weekend will be good. Seems like Looneys have picked up some defensemen that are legit. #5 and #22 on that Hawks attack are very good.

Very, very surprised to see True Annapolis playing down in the Chesapeake Fall Classic this week playing teams like Koopers. All the new talent they added, the premium price they charge and e superior and intense “training” they provide I would have thought they would be playing at Blandair to demonstrate their standing among the Crabs, Looneys, etc.

GH sold its soul but that's just what it is. Apparently they did a number of roster changes from the previous year's GH roster. The real test will come by spring/summer if they can compete at the elite levels they're targetting. I expect they could certainly become an elite level club. Overnight, no. Several people also question if all of these Severna Park High School affiliated coaches will have time for the teams come spring.

I just checked out the schedule and MadLax is not playing either in the 2026 AAA/AA division. There are 4-5 teams in that bracket that I would think MadLax considers its peers. MadLax 2026 DMV and 2027, 2028, and 2029 Capital teams are all playing in their respective divisions.

Not dumping, just clarifying:
MESA PA playing in 2026 AAA/AA
MESA (MD) playing in 2026 A/B

That's the white team. Their 2nd team. AYC is in it as well. I thought they merged with True.

OK Hawks dad, pretzel

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