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What is embarrassing is boasting about your record when you clearly have an unfair hold back advantage.

PA RR dad is a toolbox.
Causing problems every tournament.

What best attackman did FCA lose to Hawks?
Did their attack score this year?
Fake news.

Agreed the RR guy should not have gotten involved. Also, he should know telling a parent is pointless as it’s obviously on them if their son yelled at a kid he just cheap shotted. That isn’t a one off type of behavior so I’m sure they are already aware. If he was not a coach or parent yet took charge of the incident I think it’s pretty clear who he was. I’m sure your kid was embarrassed by his words and actions and was trying to cover it up by blaming the opposing coaches.

The parents live seeing their second and third line kids beating your top kids. It’s called depth. Many of these backups for Hawks would take your kids starting spots. FACTS

FCA is a sinking ship.
Lost their best attackman to Hawks and lost their best defenseman to 91. They may need to move down a division in HOCO.

uh huh

If it were my son I might encourage him to be a starter on another team rather than riding the bench on the Hawks so Dads can brag about depth.

There was no FCA attack to Hawks. Some people are crazy.

I’ve heard the 2026 Hawks are going to play 2025 division in HOCO this season. Is this true?

No, actually it's not clear who the white shirt guy from RR is. An earlier post said that he is part of the PA RR organization but not a parent or coach of the 2026 team, so it is strange that an innocent bystander would lose his cool, search out the parents of a certain player, and provoke the parents on both teams into an argument. Can you clarify who he is and why he was involved?

Not a single kid on Hawks that would take my kids spot. FACT.

Your kid couldn’t make Hawks or he’d be one

Yes, I have another life question. What is the optimal number of hold backs a team should carry?

It was a hawks dad who was cut from the team

It’s not a dense question. It’s a legit one. Why don’t they play up? All they do is talk about how no one can beat them in 2026. So play up. I didn’t ask the question, but would love an answer as well. Heck why doesn't the coaching staff chime in and tell us.

Not a single kid on Hawks that would take my kids spot. FACT.[/quote

Easy. No one is interested in your kids rec spot. It's safe.

Backups have to play to beat up

I like your confidence. Can we be friends? Are you a glass half full kind of guy?

I saw FCA play twice this summer and I don’t think any of their attack would make the Hawks roster.

Not a Hawks parent, although I know that disclaimer lacks credibility.

And no one is interested in your kids bench warming Hawks spot.

Must be proud to call your son "depth". Standing on the sidelines sweating his butt off so you can tell everyone your kid is on the Hawks! Some kids need the Hawks to be relevant, mine doesn't!

FCA is so poorly coached, you could’ve watched them twice and never seen their best attack get on the field. I hope that big attackman does go elsewhere for his own good and development.

Yeah, Pretty sure none of the coaches or any Dad’s who actually played the game at a high level are on these forums!

I have seen a lot of posts explaining how playing against hold backs makes players get better and how this would prepare kids for HS lacrosse when they would play against kids several years older. So if that is the true, it makes total sense that the Hawks should play up. How can the Hawks players prepare for HS competition when they always play against weaker and smaller opponents? It's great that they win all of their games but at what cost? Are we witnessing a train wreck come HS?

Nice, keep you kid on the hawks as a second and third line. Nobody recruits backups. Good luck.

Joke is on you if you think they don’t.

Your kids is already irrelevant so no one cares. Thanks for making Hawks parents feel special by coming here and jock riding their entire team.

Okay, you convinced them. They are going to play 2025 this Spring and PLL in the Summer. Now please go away. You make them out to me some kind of Gods. You look like a fanboy!

A lot of Hawks actually do need this forum to feel special. A couple of weeks ago a Hawks parent defended their excessive holdbacks by talking about the cars that opposing teams parents drive. Kind of sad.

Are we going to hear further from the PA RR crowd about white shirt guy who tried to confront opposing parents in Delaware - is he the same guy who ran on the field against FCA, or does the RR team have multiple whacko's?

Then I guess the joke is on me too because I didn't think the coaches read this forum either; maybe the Daddy coaches, but hopefully not the real coaches.

I agree with 2025 makes sense to me.

I have seen a lot of posts explaining how playing against hold backs makes players get better and how this would prepare kids for HS lacrosse when they would play against kids several years older. So if that is the true, it makes total sense that the Hawks should play up. How can the Hawks players prepare for HS competition when they always play against weaker and smaller opponents? It's great that they win all of their games but at what cost? Are we witnessing a train wreck come HS?[/quote]

Okay, you convinced them. They are going to play 2025 this Spring and PLL in the Summer. Now please go away. You make them out to me some kind of Gods. You look like a fanboy![/quote]

I agree with 2025 makes sense to me.[/quote]

My son plays 2026, not Hawks. I know of 3 hold backs on his team. I am guessing that you know of hold back on your son's team as well. Stop whining.

Yeah, Pretty sure none of the coaches or any Dad’s who actually played the game at a high level are on these forums![/quote]

I have seen a lot of posts explaining how playing against hold backs makes players get better and how this would prepare kids for HS lacrosse when they would play against kids several years older. So if that is the true, it makes total sense that the Hawks should play up. How can the Hawks players prepare for HS competition when they always play against weaker and smaller opponents? It's great that they win all of their games but at what cost? Are we witnessing a train wreck come HS?[/quote]

Okay, you convinced them. They are going to play 2025 this Spring and PLL in the Summer. Now please go away. You make them out to me some kind of Gods. You look like a fanboy![/quote]

I agree with 2025 makes sense to me.[/quote]

What team does your son play for?

And this, in a nutshell, is the failure of this forum.

What this forum has become is an arrogant subset of parents, from a dominant and very well developed and coached seventh grade lacrosse team, gloating and trying to convince us that our teams and boys will never amount to anything. That then creates the retaliation from everyone else.

What this forum could be, is a place where parents could exchange ideas and information on how best to develop their sons prior to High School when the responsibility of development during Middle School, largely falls on our shoulders.

As an example, there have been numerous studies, if you actually care to educate yourself, in the Birth Year sports like Hockey and Soccer, that show that playing down, and not up, is actually the way to develop faster. There are exceptions to this rule but we don't have time to get into those.

That is why holding your kid back, although not usually the ethical thing to do, actually works as long as he has the genetics and work ethic to carry him to the next level in high School and College.

I have all kinds of other good development strategies that you could employ outside of your sons program, that I have gotten from mentors in this industry that know what they are talking about and if you knew who my son was, you would know that those strategies work.

But no one actually wants to enter into any kind of real exchange of information on this useless forum so you will go back to bashing each other.

I'm done coming on here. I'm not learning anything here that will help my son be a better player.

Good luck with your sons development and I truly hope that his goals are realized now and in the future.

signed,

Not a Hawk Dad that has a son on another HoCo Elite team.

How do you remember what happened here a couple weeks ago. I thought my life was boring.

TLDR

Could you share those studies with the forum please?

Most posts on here are extremely forgettable but that one stuck out.