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Okay, I have no stake in the True vs. Hawks goalie wars. My son has played against both and IMHO they are both extremely good goalies.

I am the poster who was confused as to why the California Dad was accused of slipping his son's stats into the ranking of top east coast teams, from BLC down to Breakers. (which I think are very accurate, by the way)

But now I get it - the post mentioned, for no apparent reason, that the True goalie made 12 saves and gave up 3 goals in a certain game. So, is somebody suggesting that the "California Dad" is actually the True goalie Dad, who ranked nine east coast teams, merely so he could slip in the fact that his own son had 80% save percentage?

That sounds awfully crazy to me, however, it did start me thinking:

(1) why would a California Dad keep stats on the True goalie;
(2) why are one player's stats on one of the weaker teams on the list relevant to the team rankings.
(3) this poster did seem very focused on the goalie landscape; he mentioned that the VLC goalie is better than BLC, for instance, so maybe he is scouting for his next team.

I have observed crazy behavior from True and Hawks Dads on the sidelines, but if this was written by the True goalie Dad, this takes the cake!

And by the way, if any kids are reading this, nobody is criticizing you - just your crazy Dads!

Severna Park Green Hornets Facebook page: Mesa Lacrosse, a nationally recognized youth lacrosse club based in Philadelphia, has expanded its operations to Maryland and is now providing coaching and training for the Severna Park Green Hornets Boys Select lacrosse teams.

Okay, I have no stake in the True vs. Hawks goalie wars. My son has played against both and IMHO they are both extremely good goalies.

I am the poster who was confused as to why the California Dad was accused of slipping his son's stats into the ranking of top east coast teams, from BLC down to Breakers. (which I think are very accurate, by the way)

But now I get it - the post mentioned, for no apparent reason, that the True goalie made 12 saves and gave up 3 goals in a certain game. So, is somebody suggesting that the "California Dad" is actually the True goalie Dad, who ranked nine east coast teams, merely so he could slip in the fact that his own son had 80% save percentage?

That sounds awfully crazy to me, however, it did start me thinking:

(1) why would a California Dad keep stats on the True goalie;
(2) why are one player's stats on one of the weaker teams on the list relevant to the team rankings.
(3) this poster did seem very focused on the goalie landscape; he mentioned that the VLC goalie is better than BLC, for instance, so maybe he is scouting for his next team.

I have observed crazy behavior from True and Hawks Dads on the sidelines, but if this was written by the True goalie Dad, this takes the cake!

And by the way, if any kids are reading this, nobody is criticizing you - just your crazy Dads!

Okay, I have no stake in the True vs. Hawks goalie wars. My son has played against both and IMHO they are both extremely good goalies.

I am the poster who was confused as to why the California Dad was accused of slipping his son's stats into the ranking of top east coast teams, from BLC down to Breakers. (which I think are very accurate, by the way)

But now I get it - the post mentioned, for no apparent reason, that the True goalie made 12 saves and gave up 3 goals in a certain game. So, is somebody suggesting that the "California Dad" is actually the True goalie Dad, who ranked nine east coast teams, merely so he could slip in the fact that his own son had 80% save percentage?

That sounds awfully crazy to me, however, it did start me thinking:

(1) why would a California Dad keep stats on the True goalie;
(2) why are one player's stats on one of the weaker teams on the list relevant to the team rankings.
(3) this poster did seem very focused on the goalie landscape; he mentioned that the VLC goalie is better than BLC, for instance, so maybe he is scouting for his next team.

I have observed crazy behavior from True and Hawks Dads on the sidelines, but if this was written by the True goalie Dad, this takes the cake!

And by the way, if any kids are reading this, nobody is criticizing you - just your crazy Dads!

Yes

This post just nailed it!! True Goalie Dad is insane and literally has his kid on the move every year to find the next best thing. That is why if I were a coach I would want nothing to do with this family. Everything wrong with youth sports wrapped up in this guy.

I find it comical that you think I am a True Dad and am lying about it. The fact that you cant accept that I am a WCS dad and instead think I would post all this stuff to slip in stuff about my son....that is all that is wrong with youth sports and with this board in particular. But you carry on your fantasies and conspiracy theories. I am happy to prove I am a WCS dad if there is some reasonable way to do it. Only because it will put an end to these ridiculous theories and show how foolish it is to accuse anyone of this.

I find it comical that you think I am a True Dad and am lying about it. The fact that you cant accept that I am a WCS dad and instead think I would post all this stuff to slip in stuff about my son....that is all that is wrong with youth sports and with this board in particular. But you carry on your fantasies and conspiracy theories. I am happy to prove I am a WCS dad if there is some reasonable way to do it. Only because it will put an end to these ridiculous theories and show how foolish it is to accuse anyone of this.

Hopefully on Sundays

How was the 2026 Mesa tryout over the weekend? Something has to give with True, Bay Raiders, Green Hornets and other AA county teams (other than hawks).

Strangely a severna park voice article was removed just recently where the mesa coach said he was now running Green Hornets lax.

I too believe that the California Dad is who he says he is, and appreciate his insights into the rankings of Maryland teams.

The put downs between the Hawk and ex-Hawk goalie Dads is pretty sad. In my experience, goalie families (whether teammates or opponents) befriend each other, and encourage their sons to support each other no matter what. I have three sons, one of whom is a goalie, and the strongest bonds we have formed are with other goalies and their families. When goalies have moved on to different teams, the boys and families continue to support each other as friendly opponents. The hawks sure can play, but that exchange is just one more example of their failings on the important stuff.

Post summer Elite MD Rankings 2026

Hawks - 3 years running. No one is close
Madlax - proved itself at NAL, Platinum Cup and Millon's
FCA - won 3 tournaments this summer but did they really beat anyone of significance?
Looney's - who would have thought; strong showing at Platinum Cup and took Madlax to OT in both games at Millon's. Could argue they have past FCA with a win over them at Platinum Cup
91 - I just have a feeling this team is imploding; did anyone see 91 helmets at tryouts for FCA, Crabs or Hawks? Biggest fall this summer from last year.
BLC - very inconsistent this summer but still has some talent
Crabs - not much to say but my guess is hold-backs a plenty over the next 2 years; its the crabs way!!
VLC - I think this is the team to move up and play in the elite group. Good summer and most deserving

My kid looking to move as he didn’t get much pt,how was Mesa 2026 team in there home state?same coaching or different ?

If it’s the same Mesa 2026 from the Philadelphia area, they lost to Forest Hill select last year. Just saying...

I too believe that the California Dad is who he says he is, and appreciate his insights into the rankings of Maryland teams.

The put downs between the Hawk and ex-Hawk goalie Dads is pretty sad. In my experience, goalie families (whether teammates or opponents) befriend each other, and encourage their sons to support each other no matter what. I have three sons, one of whom is a goalie, and the strongest bonds we have formed are with other goalies and their families. When goalies have moved on to different teams, the boys and families continue to support each other as friendly opponents. The hawks sure can play, but that exchange is just one more example of their failings on the important stuff.

Did they win a game this summer?Lost all games at summer exposure,save the $

I have to ask - what is a Saltwater Mom - I am guessing it is not a compliment?

I think it is a compliment of sorts. they wear tight fitting clothing and tend to have some assets.

Unfortunately they don’t have the asset of being able to cheer for a good team!

They like flat brimmed hats that say "Stay Salty" and light blue Yetis that cost as much as their son's registration.

They like flat brimmed hats that say "Stay Salty" and light blue Yetis that cost as much as their son's registration.

doormat of philly lax

I find it comical that you think I am a True Dad and am lying about it. The fact that you cant accept that I am a WCS dad and instead think I would post all this stuff to slip in stuff about my son....that is all that is wrong with youth sports and with this board in particular. But you carry on your fantasies and conspiracy theories. I am happy to prove I am a WCS dad if there is some reasonable way to do it. Only because it will put an end to these ridiculous theories and show how foolish it is to accuse anyone of this.

doormat of philly lax

Sounds like md is afraid of some competition, pa lax stopped being the doormat long ago.

No, sick of watered down lax and money grabs from clubs charging 2K for rec ball and disguising it as "a great opportunity".

any teams add any new talent?

same team. National team had a few boys that came off the bench. But the Capital team won Millon.

Crabs added some 2025 talent; Looney's and FCA added some rec players and of course Hawks bought in some PLL talent........