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US Lacrosse Rules are 9/1 not 10/1. I have girls on M&D at two different ages and neither team has a girl born prior to 9/1.

Is the age thing really a problem for girls? Maybe it is and I don't see it. At this point any changes made should start with the younger age groups moving forward. The girls in this age group and others are pretty much set for the next 4 years... And yes in 4 short years this is all over. So enjoy the ride.

Red Team doesn’t count, the 2025s got blown out by the YJ C Team (Janelli) this past fall.

If it’s multiple impact players I could see why M&D wouldn’t want to show, but the vacation excuse is nonsense where it’s the same weekend as the Mid Atlantic. Now if you told me it’s about the money then I would get it from an M&D perspective. At least Heros had the stones to show last year.

Please stop stalking middle school girls.

Parents using the pre k year for lacrosse advantage are the smartest. How did they know so early. Quit your crying and play.

Calendar year is a bad idea. I would suggest August 1st or September 1st cutoff. That way everyone can play on grade who is of age. It is a big advantage holding back. The key to soccer is the player cards with birthdates. Lacrosse and ice hockey in the USA with the paucity of excellent training makes the holdbacks impact even more extreme compared to football, hoops and baseball. 20% of the top teams with the best training are holdbacks? Sooner you holdback the better for the individual you go from good on your on age team to star/ featured player on your team. You get 6 years of being a featured player/ most attention and training. The "super/ premier" clubs would resist this movement to go to all playing same age cohort as I think they feature the most holdbacks and the current model is working for them.

Please go back to school and then try this post again.

How many LIDS had to google "paucity"?

Same amount of Maryland Mutt parents that hold back Sally because she can not hang on age

Seriously ??? - these girls are not being held back in pre-K - like your dismissive comment suggests. They're being held back in the middle school/high school transition. So don't be smart. They repeat 5th or 8th grade. And please don't act like it's not an advantage. It's insulting. I have no problem with whatever reason a family has for having their child repeat a grade - but it's definitely helpful to be at least one year up to 18 -22 months older then some of your opponents. Age based sports would eliminate that whole scenario. You just play with whoever was born the same year as you. Then it wouldn't matter at all what grade these kids are in. It works for soccer - it can work for lacrosse.

The M&D 24 black team just had a girl join their team who was a strong player on the 23's last year. She'll kill it at 24's. She's a great player - but being older helps tremendously.

They can go back (to school) and repost and not type on a phone or an electronic device so they remove all the spelling errors but their message is spot on. Typos and all. You just don't like what is has to say

I think there is a difference when I girl is held back at pre-k or held back at 8th grade. Of course physically there is no difference, but when a girl does it in 8th grade they have a extra year of experience/LAX IQ. Which I think helps a lot.

Hard to like or dislike when I can’t follow the illiteracy.

I know Sw 24 blue has a girl that was a 23 last year. Moved here from Connecticut and reclassed for school. Girl is best player on that team so it does make a difference!

Agreed 100%. My 2025 daughter (just turned 13) is no where close to puberty (per her family Dr) and she is going against "young women" on some teams. (Yes I know them personally on MnD Blk who are actual 2024 ages). However, when they mature in H.S. you'll see the top clubs even out. The early middle school year dominance of MnD blk teams goes away. They are still great teams nationally, but are more inline with the other great teams in HS. Look at the 2021 and 2022 blk teams. Once unbeatable in middle school, and now solidly in the top 10.

This argument is a bunch of nonsense. MnD, Heros and SW always draw the best talent early. Those girls are typically the biggest, fastest, strongest for their age at the time. They get the best coaching and play (a lot) against the best teams. By 8th/9th grade, the strong girls on all of the other teams have all consolidated to MnD, Heros and SW and those teams begin to balance out against the rest of the best teams in the country, YJ, Mass Elite...
My daughter is a 2021 on a very strong Maryland team and there is only one girl with a birthday before 9/1, the date for school cutoff in Maryland. Reclassifying is a fools errand.

There are no holdbacks on 21 Black

Red players don't count: please stop posting.

There are two reasons why M&D Black wont be at NATIONALS. One, their best players don't qualify and second why not stay home and double dip to collect the $? I mean we all know what this is all about.

What’s Nationals

Nationals are too late in the summer and teams are going thru tryouts . These kids are 13 maybe some summer with family would be nice.

So you are skipping the Mid Atlantic this year?

No coaches are looking at 7th graders -no need to give up the summer.

Does anyone know why we have to pay a individual registration fee for the NGLL if the team/club is paying an admission fee ?

Just a money grab. It started last year as a way to siphon extra money from parents.

No, the NGLL is a new league that requires special funds and special referees that normal tournaments do not require. The NGLL leadership must be new to this whole lax thing and must not have realized the total amount of funds needed. Right?
Who could have possibly added additional fees the clubs balked at and then thought, well I'll pass it on directly to the parents. They will pay anything. No way possible someone thinks like that. Mwahahaha!

Our club covers the fee so parents don't get nickle and dimed

Doesn't matter if they bake it in or nickel and dime you, the parents are still stuck with the bill. Still a money grab.

Week of Feb 16 Skywalker's club director comes to the indoor Cross Keys games and SCREAMS the entire game, not even coaching, just testing his lungs capacity.

Week of Feb 23, new signs were posted about sportsmanship. Coincidence? I think not

He’s trash and everyone knows it. Even those paying in... just sayin’!

as are you

Yuck ---- seriously ?!?!?. He's loud and obnoxious - but trash ???
At least he's here running his club instead of being away letting parents and parent coaches run his club.

more girls will be recruited from his club than the one your kid plays for

The clubs coaches dont act or behave much different than the director, from the age groups I'm familiar with

Sounds like some Skywalker envy going on. what's wrong? your kid couldn't make the team?

Skywalker's director has been doing that for 20 years. All part of his act. It's harmless.

The coaches yell to see who will break and who will work harder. They prepare them to play at a higher level where they’re going to be yelled at constantly! Why do you think the Skywalkers teams start beating more and more teams as they get older? Because they’re constantly being pushed to their potential! If your snowflake family can’t handle your kid being yelled at, don’t come to Skywalkers! Good luck with your kid playing in high school and beyond!

Skywalkers 25 gets smoked by M&D25 on the regular. Program used to be good, not anymore

Is this banter constructive?You are better than this.

They really aren't

My girl could very well play for his club!
This banter isn't very constructive, I agree.
But I don't know what this guy thinks he is achieving by being the Biggest-braggart-in-Baltimore.
Every year, for every little-sticks clinic, for every parent waiting for their daughters indoor game to start, for the parent who are waiting for the basketball game to start- he comes out screaming at 7 year old girls because only the best will make it with his club. By the time it matters more than 50% of the girls wont be there anymore. But 100% of the parents wont be able to erase that guy.