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One was nationals and one is Dukes Young Guns

Sure about that? Duke's has the event listed on their schedule for the 2023 "Elite" team

Young Guns is their elite team from PA, nationals is whoever they can get that weekend from other clubs

So these guys are listed incorrectly as Duke's Elite vs Duke's Young Guns?

https://www.thedukeslacrosse.com/player-rosters-player-forms/duke-s-elite-2023-players/

Who knows what that mess is??? Lists 30 kids half aren’t from PA and many play for other teams and are also listed Dukes Nationals kids.

So what just happened? I see that Ebe posted that Duke's has terminated their relationship with G and that Duke's Nationals is no more. And then today I saw an advertisement for the next Duke's Nationals tryouts with the caption "Business as usual".

I can't keep track of this stuff....

That's why they are a complete JOKE!!!!!!

Dukes Young Guns is not the same team as Dukes Elite. Both ran by Ebe.

You need your head checked if you spend a dime on this organization

So does anyone actually know what is going on with Nationals and Duke's? Just a bunch of drama?

greed, arrogance, and ignorance

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G and Ebe split ways. For what exact reason not sure and we will probably never know.

Great Duke’s Nationals minicamp tonight at Loyola - strong 2024 showing with 5-6 new players. Excellent numbers at the younger ages. Instagram post appears to be a lot of noise nothing more.

Wonder who owns the name? If G has decided that he's going to go ahead and infringe, it'll be fun to watch. Then again not likely that either one of those bozos knows the first thing about IP law.

older teams are gone, what's the point of the younger teams, are they going to try and keep these together?

Don't have to be Nostradumus to predict:

1. G will continue to use Dukes name and go it alone.
2. E will have to send a cease and desist.
3. That situation will languish for the better part of 2020
4. Dukes OG will slowly die as way more competition and choices and no feeder program.
5. E will make it work using shoelaces and bubblegum.
6. E will finally be faced with being unable to use the Dukes name.
7. E will change the name to something similiar ie 'Ducks"
8. Ducks model will struggle as G isn't a good businessman.
9. Will last 1-2 years and fizzle out.

Just as an FYI, have it on good authority that G "owns the 'Duke's Nationals' name". So there could be a C&D, but not sure it stands any chance legally.

I saw the pic too and there are about 35-40 kids total. From all age groups-usually don't they carry 35-40 on their each team

Thanks G!!!

and on top of all the uncertainty its $3600 for the program!!

I can't believe how much these programs are charging now, it's insanity HHH and Mesa are the same price.

And now G's putting a 2022 Nationals team together? He's trying to directly complete with Ebe? While using the Duke's name?

Honestly, the instability of the program is alarming. Combined with the questionable business practices and tactics utilized by G, any intelligent person would walk away a not look back. Truly embarrasing.

Come on? Really? Stick with the youth teams-where did you see 2022 info at? BOMBS dropping.......

Instagram....the only hammerhead G uses these days

dukesnationals
After much anticipation we are happy to announce the reinstatement of 2022 Duke’s Nationals! Look for the 2x National Champions back in action this summer!
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Are you a 2022 looking for a team?? Head to our page or website for tryout info! #jointhenationals #jointhenats

"#GiveMeYourMoney"

Coach G is officially removed from Dukes. This will certainly help based on my personal opinion and from what I read in this thread.

Help who? He was always just another franchise and the only one that fielded a competitive team

This club is dying a slow death......not a team at any level considered elite.

Yep, was a novel idea, but now just a waste of money as a mid level program due to lack of chemistry and any type of coherent structure with zeroro development

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Yes Duke’s Nationals separated from Duke’s LC but both Clubs have strong teams!
Duke’s Elite High School teams were strong this fall at showcases and have had a number of good college commits.
Duke’s Nationals 2023-2027 strong at each grade this fall. 2024 just beat MADLAX 2024 at DCBox Classic, and if you believe us club lax rankings Madlax is number 1 for that grade.

I don’t know EB or G but the teams I have seen play and what I hear from other clubs is nothing like I read on these pages.

Thanks G!

Hhhmmm. In January, 24s won box championship against Madlax at their own tournament.

You’re welcome M.R.

And when they post hype videos like this on IG, it's hard to argue with how hard they push their athletes with the best competition in tournaments!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/B78a_6vB9C_/

Continually ripping top cheddar on a clearly brand new goalie who's literally afraid of/trying to avoid the ball is where it's at! It's what you see in all of the best hype videos that show how dominant a team is.

LMFAO. That goalie wanted to be in that goal as much as I want someone to walk in and kick me in the jimmy right now. Kudos to him for stepping in there, takes a set

Hmmmmmm......

http://www.dukesnationals.com

I guess we found out who owns the Duke's IP. Duke's Nationals is now... Nationals Lacrosse

https://www.instagram.com/nationalslacrosseclub/

They have re-branded their program to "Nationals". I'm guessing they will be unveiling a new website soon.

Could be IP issue or simply separating from the mothership with there own brand.

What teams do they have now? I’ve only seen comments on 24’s and 23’s.