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At this point most of the D1 Money is gone in respect to getting new offers from this point on. Scholarship offers have either been accepted, or are still awaiting answers. Only spots left now are just that, spots, with no money on teams. That being said, some very good teams still have open spots, and if your daughter is interested in a school a winter clinic is not a bad idea. (I would have your daughter email/contact the coach to ask if they are done with their 2021 recruits or are they still recruiting the class prior to registering, most coaches will be honest about this).

By my estimate (based on a ton of research) approx. 500 girls from the 2021 class have verbally committed. I would put schools in three (maybe obvious) tiers
Tier 1 - mostly / totally done, perhaps room for one more (ACC, BIG 10, most Ivies, top of Pac12 and Big East, and most other top 30 schools)
Tier 2 - next group of schools that have gotten after recruiting - maybe another 20 - 30 schools that have 3 - 5 recruits
Tier 3 - just starting, 0-2 recruits, approx 50 - 60 D1 schools
so depending on what your are shooting for, its currently anywhere from a tight squeeze to lots of room available ...

You did a ton of research? There are 117 D1 programs. Tier 3 is half the programs, Tier 2 brings you to 90 schools. So based on your research most programs are just starting recruitment????

It might be a better representation of your research to list each of the schools with the current number of verbals at each.. i would assume most years the list is about 8-10 kids, so schools with less are still looking..
thanks in advance for your help

That's not true this year as for several reasons many schools are taking small classes this year. BC, UNC, PSU for instance are all done with very small classes.

BC is taking 11-12 kids one of the biggest numbers other than 2019, in 2018 they took 6 and it was the IL number 1 recruiting class, now thats a small class

BC is taking 11-12 kids one of the biggest numbers other than 2019, in 2018 they took 6 and it was the IL number 1 recruiting class, now thats a small class

That's not true this year as for several reasons many schools are taking small classes this year. BC, UNC, PSU for instance are all done with very small classes.

BC is not taking 11-12 kids

Once you get outside the top 20 the talent falls off a cliff so many of those mid tier schools are hoping that a quality girls has fallen through the cracks and they can steal one

Not entirely true. While it is true that there are somewhere between 15 and 20 Teams that always seem to be in the top 20 there are many good players at the non traditional top 20 programs. The biggest difference is that in "most cases" the non traditional top 20 teams do not get the studs. The top 3 or 4 recruits at Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern etc... are what sets those teams apart from the rest of the programs. The starters at places like Ohio State, Michigan, Umass, Brown etc... could certainly be on the roster a Maryland or Virginia they just might not be the starter. The top 10 - 15 players at programs that are usually in the top 30 - 50 range could play anywhere (not start anywhere but they could certainly be on the roster).

Unless you are the BC Coach how do you know how many 2021 recruits BC will have? They brought in "11" in 2019, "7" in 2018, "7" in 2017, "6" in 2016 only time will tel how many they bring in in 2021.

Because my daughter is committed there and they have said what size class they are taking and they are done unless someone pops up. They brought in a bunch of transfers this year.

Thanks for letting us know you kid is going there St. A camera guy

BC has 4 commits and don't forget about the money. With the transfers they need to find money somewhere so that affects this class. Two years from now they will probably have a larger class.

BC has 4 commits and don't forget about the money. With the transfers they need to find money somewhere so that affects this class. Two years from now they will probably have a larger class.

Thanks for letting us know you kid is going there St. A camera guy

Not all transfers get cash. Many HS studs get to college and get buried on the bench. The vast majority of transfers are to weaker teams but obviously anyone transferring to BC are trading up to a very hot program over the last 5 years

Not all transfers get cash. Many HS studs get to college and get buried on the bench. The vast majority of transfers are to weaker teams but obviously anyone transferring to BC are trading up to a very hot program over the last 5 years

The BC transfers are high profile and will absolutely get a large share of the scholarships. No doubt they are trying to lighten up the $ on in coming recruits in order to attract the talent to fill in three huge sets of shoes now gone. Seems like a very smart way to do it, look at the way professional teams (choose a sport) go after free agents. Recruiting, especially the way it had gotten out of hand with the early recruiting stuff, was a hit or miss prospect. Brining in a ringer like CN, they know exactly what they are getting. Love BC and the run they went on, but it was only a 3 year run. SA got injured Freshman year and wasn't quite the impact player then and the team was 10-9, not exactly hot. Will be a hard hit with all the big contributors leaving the same year, don't think they will be a favorite to make the finals this year, but should remain relevant.

The vast majority of the “cash” is academic, the lacrosse money pales in comparison. Doubt BC is doing much different than anywhere else

No, the "cash" at BC is not academic. BC, like many of the most competitive universities offer very little "merit" based aid. Boston College does however meet 100% of the students demonstrated "Need" with need based financial aid. Boston College offers the following:

- "The Gabelli Presidential Scholars Program is an undergraduate academic, merit program that annually awards full-tuition scholarships and fully-funded, GPSP-sponsored summer programs to 15 incoming freshman students. Early Decision and Regular Decision applicants who submit their BC applications by the November 1 priority scholarship deadline will be considered. There is no separate application for this scholarship."

The Ivy's, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Hopkins etc... offer little or no merit / academic money. They do offer excellent need based aid.

If you are looking for academic $$ you will have to look at less competitive schools.

Is this recruiting season over for ‘21’s? It’s been a sad holiday in our house and just wanted to hear opinions on what’s realistically left.

No, it is not over. Although coaches will be focused on their season "you" and "your" daughter can reevaluate the situation and set some goals and develop a plan. Remember, many of the players who have committed will end up changing their minds either before they enroll in college or after a year or two they will transfer. That goes for all students, not just athletes.

Settle back, take a deep breath and really try to work with your daughter to find out what is important to her and what type of school she would like to attend. Consider all factors, the type of institution, the setting, the part of the country etc...

Assess her academic qualifications.

Assess her athletic and lacrosse ability.

Look for schools that your daughter thinks would be a good fit and find a way (email, call, have club coach reach out, HS coach reach out etc...) to make the coach aware of your daughter and her desire to attend the school and be a part of the lacrosse program.

Work with your daughter to identify the type of school she would like to be at, that is more important than lacrosse. One of mine (current freshmen) is not happy at current school and will look to transfer. We tried to stick it out... everything was good in the classroom and on the field, but "the school" is just not the right fit.

There is DI, DII, DIII, and there are many competitive Club Programs but in the end the most important thing is to find a school that your daughter will be happy at beyond lacrosse.

This is an opportunity to teach your daughter that it is not the situation that you find yourself in that matters it is how you respond to that situation that matters. The recruiting process can be harsh but it can only keep your daughter down if she (and you) lets it keep her down.

Don't mean to sound like "Tony Robbins" but we have been through this a few times. With one of mine there were no offers from the top choices and it was a very difficult time. Just know it all worked out. Another had what we felt was a great opportunity and it turned out to be the wrong school.

Of course recruiting isn't over for 2021s. There are still plenty of spots still out there. However, unless you are a late bloomer and will be seen this summer the top schools are pretty much done. They will always make room for talent but they are not actively recruiting 21s anymore. There will be some flips which could open spots up down the road, but until that starts happening there are still plenty of spots available outside the top 20 and D2 and D3 options.

Shucks, I saw that Arizona State signed a 2020 this past September. Everybody just needs to slow their roll.

Shucks, I saw that Arizona State signed a 2020 this past September. Everybody just needs to slow their roll.