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Nothing? After all the A and B team hubbub?

Hubbub about what? Hoco got fleeced, Skywalkers got better, Hero’s got worse, Coppermine and Nems didn’t change, and M&D got better

Nothing? After all the A and B team hubbub?

Don't start. It's a new season.... don't stir the pot already

Will be interesting! Heros will be going for the 3peat in NGLL. How did Heros get worse. They picked up a great goalie, and a draw specialist.

Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

Great for Heros, very exciting for a 7th grade team to have a specialist at such a young age.

It is sad when teams only have one girl take the draw. It is all about the tee shirts LOL

The new Hero’s goalie, takes minutes away from the best league goalie, and she wasn’t the best on her d team

Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

Not a joke, just a fact

I dont know if she is the best. She takes up space and makes more body saves because of that. As shooters develop (like they are at this age) she is going to have to make stick saves. MnD lost a good goalie to Hero's but to your point that could be more of an issue depending on how playtime shared. Always stinks to take out a hot goalie for one that has been sitting a half.

Of course all these games are for development and eventually being seen by college coaches not so much winning the games anyway. I do enjoy the koolaid bantar of who is the best and who lost the best player. A few years from now you will get it.

How did tryouts go for Coppermine and NEMS? I'm curious if they had a good turnout since so many of the other teams had early tryouts. Sounds like Coppermine lost quite a few of their top players.

How did tryouts go for Coppermine and NEMS? I'm curious if they had a good turnout since so many of the other teams had early tryouts. Sounds like Coppermine lost quite a few of their top players.

Best in the league? I don't know about that, but the team is only stronger with both of those goalies. The new one is a strong player with a different style than their current. I will be interested to see how the team chooses to play them.

Since Hero's didn't finish #1 in the Club Lax rankings (for whatever they're worth), they clearly had room to improve (as Ricky Bobby says, "if you aren't first, you're last"), so swiping a strong goalie from one of the teams above them clearly tells me that they aren't standing pat being 2nd lost (3rd place), so kudos to them. We will see how it plays out.

I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest

Amen

Finally the truth-nicely done. I do feel bad for the midlevel coaches busting butt to develop these kids who later bolt.

Very true. Though it takes the "right" coach to manage that talent and put them in position to win. Girls have come on board to teams like MnD and Hero's and can't buy in. Those players often find themselves looking for new teams where they can freelance and be "the girl".

True but I bet you could take most coaches and give then that talent and wins would be plentiful. Lacrosse is a game of who has the most talented players-college included. Presbyterian will not beat Maryland ever (not because of coaching)

Probably against the mid-level and weaker teams. When you play teams of equal talent coaching makes a difference. Players win games, coaches lose them.

Coaches lose them? Bet your a fun parent to have on a team, and I bet you have the coach on speedial.

I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest [/quote]

Very true. Though it takes the "right" coach to manage that talent and put them in position to win. Girls have come on board to teams like MnD and Hero's and can't buy in. Those players often find themselves looking for new teams where they can freelance and be "the girl".[/quote]
True but I bet you could take most coaches and give then that talent and wins would be plentiful. Lacrosse is a game of who has the most talented players-college included. Presbyterian will not beat Maryland ever (not because of coaching)[/quote]
Probably against the mid-level and weaker teams. When you play teams of equal talent coaching makes a difference. Players win games, coaches lose them.[/quote]

Coaches lose them? Bet your a fun parent to have on a team, and I bet you have the coach on speedial.
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Good question is if that coach was put on weaker team maybe midlevel -would they become a dominant team due to that superior coaching.

Coaches lose them? Bet your a fun parent to have on a team, and I bet you have the coach on speedial.
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You are joking right? You must be one of those parents that never played a sport if you do not understand this concept. The best coaches regardless of talent take the blame for a loss and give the players all the credit for wins. So yes players win game and coaches lose them.

ya'll on crack?

Just for fun/debate, fall rankings:


1. Hero's- Cannot argue their record in championship games last year. Can they duplicate this fall?
2. M&D- On paper one of the most talented teams in the country. Can they win the big games?
3. NEMS- Good core group of talent. Gave some teams some trouble. Can the get over the hump?
4. Skywalkers- A decent team with some athletes. Did they players they added fill in the holes?
5. LBC- Always a tough team. Can they replace key players lost?
6. Pride- Narrowly missed the playoffs last year. Did they add depth to get them in the final 4.
7. Stars- Like Pride missed the playoffs by 2 games. Did they recruit will in the off season?
8. MD United- Did they lock down the talent in AA Co? will the added players get them out of the cellar?
9. Red Shirts- Moving back to B is not a bad option.
10. FCA- Too bad Calvert Hall is a boys school but luckily they will get to play TLC or MC Midnight
11. TLC/MC Midnight- Hopefully they added some talent to put some points on the board. Last year their combined goals between the 2 teams was less than 11 of the 14 teams in the league.

You need to change the positions of NEMS and Pride. Should be M&D, Hero's, Sky Walkers, Pride, and then all the others.

Are you for real? Only "those" parents are worried about which team will win the NGLL. 7th grade

What about Coppermine and Hoco?

Good catch. Based on the players both teams lost I would have to lump them in there between MD United and Redshirts. If they picked a up a few they may be a tad above those 2. But based on water cooler roomers they both lost a lot of players.

Sky Walkers had a joke NGLL schedule. They played two 0-8 teams and one 1-7 team. They only had 1 win against a team with a winning record. And get blown out by M&D 19-1, which is M&D's biggest goal differential for the season. There is probably 6 other teams in the pool that would have made the playoffs if they had Sky Walkers schedule.

wow..this 7th grade girls lacrosse must be some serious LaxinItUp.

Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.

Could you please explain why you posted this? What team does your daughter play for? Who are the other 6 teams that could have made it? Pride definitely is very talented. HOCO might have had a shot. Not sure who else you are considering.

You could have mentioned that:
1. Sky Walkers played Hero's tough in the NGLL semifinal. Sky Walkers was beating them at the half but Hero's was able to control the draws and played extremely well in the second half. Hero's is very talented and ended up winning NGLL for the 2nd year in a row.
2. Sky Walkers tied M&D in the Capital City Lax Festival Tournament. That was exciting considering the high level of respect Sky Walkers has for M&D.
3. Sky Walkers held the Yellow Jackets to 5 points at the MidAtlantic Summer Club Championships.
4. Sky Walkers had nothing to do with the NGLL schedule. There were many weak teams that had to play someone.

Sky Walkers consistently enters the toughest tournaments and plays the hardest teams--look it up for yourself. Their record at tournaments may not always be the best, but they are always looking to play the best--M&D, Hero's, Yellow Jackets, Pride, etc.

Best of luck to your team and your daughter.

"Could you please explain why you posted this? What team does your daughter play for? Who are the other 6 teams that could have made it? Pride definitely is very talented. HOCO might have had a shot. Not sure who else you are considering."


He posted that because he wants to stir the pot. Why not just give props to all these girls - who cares that the Skywalkers 11 & 12 yr olds had an easier schedule ( that they had no control over) than other teams?. All the top teams had blow out games / all had some close games. Skywalkers improved by the end of the season and that's what matters. M&D will likely always have the strongest team - but Skywalkers is always right there too. Their teams just take a little longer to gel. Trust me I've been around long enough to see it.

These parents are wayyyy tooo serious for 12 year old lacrosse.

After watching games last year there should be A B C brackets

Top 6 only should be in one bracket-I like the 3 brackets suggested

3 brackets would make sense. Run the NGLL like one of the Summer Tournaments with several brackets.

Also CC LAX and Integrity are moving up to A. Is M&D Red or Hero's White moving up as well?