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There are three teams, and then the drop off to the next team, is... off a cliff. Use to be that Igloo was there. But now they won't be in any conversations either. It's been like this since the beginning. Every year, people post on here, "teams are catching up." Well I haven't seen it yet.

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Unfortunately it sounds like that gap may widen even further this year, with all of the top Igloo players going to either WP or Taz (and presumably Express). Would have made it a little more interesting had they gone to other teams. So who will be at the top of the next tier? True Blue?



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Heard True Blue lost some of their good players as well. So we will just have to wait and see!![/quote]


I heard True blue trimmed the fat [/quote]

LOL. Ya True Blue trimmed away $3000 bills. Keep telling yourself that Bagel Boss Massapequa Dad.

Unfortunately it sounds like that gap may widen even further this year, with all of the top Igloo players going to either WP or Taz (and presumably Express). Would have made it a little more interesting had they gone to other teams. So who will be at the top of the next tier? True Blue?



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Heard True Blue lost some of their good players as well. So we will just have to wait and see!![/quote]


I heard True blue trimmed the fat [/quote]

LOL. Ya True Blue trimmed away $3000 bills. Keep telling yourself that Bagel Boss Massapequa Dad.[/quote]


Now that’s funny! I find it extremely humorous how your so fast to point out the short guy! I’m not sure where your little superstar plays lacrosse or if he even steps on the field but I just hope your satisfied rooting on the little johnnys on the field as your little boy is making sure the water is nice and cold for the real players! Another dense lacrosse dad paying in lnto the system.

Unfortunately it sounds like that gap may widen even further this year, with all of the top Igloo players going to either WP or Taz (and presumably Express). Would have made it a little more interesting had they gone to other teams. So who will be at the top of the next tier? True Blue?



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Heard True Blue lost some of their good players as well. So we will just have to wait and see!![/quote]


I heard True blue trimmed the fat [/quote]

LOL. Ya True Blue trimmed away $3000 bills. Keep telling yourself that Bagel Boss Massapequa Dad.[/quote]

Team 24 will be in the top of the next tier.

Too many teams and owners focused more on making money than making lacrosse players. The owners in their quest to capitalize don’t have the best coaches or training. Those coaches are just looking to win games to make it seem like they’re better then they are. A lot of kids that make up these teams are not club lax caliber players. Parents egos play a roll in wanting to brag that their kids are on the best team, even if they are the last kid on the roster. If you took the best 5-7 kids from the “B” teams and the worst 5-7 kids from the “AA” teams you could have about 8-10 competitive teams. Put some coaches in there that will make kids better and owners more committed to lacrosse and the players it may not be so top heavy.

What happened to Igloo this year with each grade? They lost kids from every grade and they're a mess? Any insight?

I don't disagree. The business of youth sports is just that, a business. The first priority will always be "business" with the "sport" part a distant second. If the "business" were taken out of the equation, no doubt everything would be far different. Of curse, the extreme example of how bad this "business" can be, is with teams like Madlax, where quite literally it's all about the mighty dollar... the quintessential failure of the business model in youth sports. We, here on Long Island, are very fortunate that we live here and not in the MD area. Very few on-age athlete's get any opportunities at all, on AA caliber teams, due to their heavy dependence on holdbacks... a total epidemic problem down there. So while it's by no means perfect here, rest assured it could be far, far worse.

True Blue kids were at all of the try outs. Typical scenario. Better B team kids trying to get on an A team. Don't know where any landed, though.

At the 2024 level, I don't think they have won a tournament in years. Or maybe ever. Apparently the parents just got sick of having a good team and never winning anything. I don't think they fared too well at the WSYL either. Blaming the coach, obviously. They are probably right. The team was good. Should have done better.

It's Wolfpack & Taz then everyone else.....


Express & Igloo not even in the conversation this year.

What about shore 2 shore?

Sounds like the Madlax troll at it again. Express has a good team. Wolfpack get's the nod as top team on the island, obviously, but Taz will be better than last year and Express is certainly no slouch. Should be interesting.

Obviously they needed a lot of help. Did they get any, at their tryout?

Wolfpack, taz, express, true blue, rebels, igloo.

Funny no mention of Sam the DC Dogs midfielder who played for Madlax in a couple of big tournaments this summer in the US Club Lax blurb today. Cheating D-Bags!!!!!!

He has been on that 2024 for years, and played up this year with dC dogs in HOCO and came back down in the summer. I know because we’ve played that team for years. The bigger difference makers were very big 0 and the faceoff guy. Made a huge difference for them (and yes there were other DC dogs helmets out there (meaning 2023s) but those players were the key to their success. Most of the team other than those two looked the same to me.

Please stop naming kids in any of these forums. You wouldn't like it if someone singles out your boy.

The kid is one of the top 3 players on the team and isn’t even mentioned by the coach?!?!?! 🤔

Contrary to Popular belief in MD, playing “on age” is technically not playing “up”. Difficult concept, I know.

Take it to the Maryland 2023 thread. This is LI 2024 thread.

Rebels??? Thanks Pat, next......

they only mentioned Senior most players. He is not old enough. All about seniority.

Seniority???? It was the 2024 team. They mentioned the new stud on the team why didn’t they mention him. Because they are gutless cheaters and didn’t want to get caught. This proves they bring in older 2023’s who play down or kids who aren’t even rostered on their normal 2024 team to play in these big tournaments. By the way MD parents I’m sure little Chad/Brad loved getting his picture taken with that championship t-shirt on but how did he feel when ringers were brought in and took his field time away to win this past summer?

No one is talking about wolfpack losing two starting Midfielder's ?

You know, this practice is common place with developmental type teams, or teams that have a hard time getting enough kids to field a team, just struggling to stay afloat. But I must say, I'm not aware of any elite teams that do this, besides Madlax of course, where it is a very well known practice. It's very hard to keep this sort of thing a secret, since many of our kids are friends via social media. The Madlax kids actually brag about it to my kid. Based on this organizations well earned reputation, it really should not surprise anyone.

Sounds like more pot stirring to me. 2/3’s of their first line left? I find that hard to believe. What are their numbers?

3 and 22 left? Yeah right. Nobody would leave a team like that.

a team that leaves when they lose. I surely would not even let my kid try out for a team like that. If those 2 kids left that team would drop the first a cliff.

Thank you for the insightful commentary, cheater holdback parent from Madlax. Dude, how bad your life must be to troll this LI thread day and night, for several years now. Pathetic human trash. You are the quintessential Madlax cheater parent, a true representation of the Madlax core values. Real piece of garbage.

I'm agree 100% #WolfPackUpAndLeave

I sorry if the truth upsets you . Just face the facts!! Lose those 2 ranked 10, they will drop regardless this year.

I know 3 left for sure. you heard mom pumping up express on national tv. wonderful 91 director. let the drama commence.

well I guess now we will see how great the original wolfpack team really is now that there guest players have moved on

If they left
Where did they go

Dunno. They just #WolfPackUpAndLeft 😂

It’s never gonna grow old.

Ok new question, let's change it up some. Instead of talking about the holdbacks - a number of our best players in 2024 play up. I'm talking Sept 2005 and younger playing on 23 Teams (not your top 5 teams but top 20 teams). Now that 2023 are considered HS - Do they stay with 2023 or start playing with their class?

I am thinking 1 more summer with 23 and then do HS with their actual class

Thoughts?

Baseless rumors that will be debunked soon enough.

I'm in the same boat. What you say makes sense. The question is, is anyone actually looking at Freshman or are the college coaches mainly concentrating on Sophomores? I would think it was Sophomores but I don't really know. I also had a director mention to me that it might be a problem when the team starts entering showcases but he wasn't sure. He said we'll figure it out when we get to that point.

who cares. The team has lost its image after the stunt they pulled in the NLF .

Same mindless garbage from the the same mindless Madlax stalker parent.

Hey BOTC, How about you do your job and quit posting this garbage??

Facts are not garbage. Truth hurts .