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It’s all fun and games for the tournament directors and holdback parents until a 6 ft tall, 190 pound, 15 year man child ends up seriously injuring a 100 pound 13 year old age on kid. As this perverse grade vs age loophole continues to be increasingly exploited, we’re going to see more concussions, broken bones and sadly perhaps a paralyzing neck injury. I really hope the insanity stops before we hit that tragic point. It’s one of the many reasons other more evolved youth sports run by responsible adults don’t let that match up ever happen.

Can you even imagine the horror show of being on a team with a parent like this. Assume this guy/gal is representative of the typical WP parent. LI board, MD board, denigrating every other team other than WP and spewing false statements (seven holdback additions, false; "teams are comparable", false; cheaters, false). Apparently there are only 18-20 good lacrosse players on the planet and everyone else should just give up. Well done on representing that #1 ranking with grace and dignity. It is very odd that people from a team that is ranked #1 have to spend so much time defending the ranking, knocking other programs, calling people cheaters, etc.

Madlax has lost zero games since the start of the lacrosse year in the Fall, zero. Will they lose this summer, maybe. There are lots of great clubs and kids out there and looking forward to some good games. End of the day, win or lose, who really cares as long as the kids have fun and continue to develop. You live in some dream world where you are the guardian of 2024 lacrosse and that 7th grade lacrosse has any meaning past the short term (24 hours after a game). You rant about the evils of MD lacrosse and we laugh at you because you are just as bad. MD parents don't make the rules under which we play but you do control your actions as an adult which are as much to blame for what is wrong with youth lacrosse (abhorrent behavior in the stands and on the sidelines, constant bragging, constant lies, constant knocking of 7th grade kids, etc.). And so not to rile everyone on LI up this behavior is seen across all regions. It is all more than a little pathetic and a sad commentary on the state of youth sports. So please enough with the holier than thou attitude, no one is buying it.

Let me save you the time of a response because I know you are incapable of coming up with anything novel.

"Cheater cheater, holdback, holdback, we are #1, we are #1, the lacrosse gods ranked us #1, you stink, you stink." Does that about cover it?

Most big kids I know play cautiously around smaller kids because they know the refs will call the game so as to protect the smaller kids. If a big kid hits a small kid, immediate flag. If a small kid slashes a big kid in the kidneys with a baseball swing, no foul. I watched a Legacy Launch (ahem, Taz) versus Edge game in Delaware a couple of weeks ago. The Edge team, which was twice the size of the Taz kids, were completely in control and played clean. It was the Taz kids that were swinging wildly. It got so bad that finally the refs had to start calling the Taz kids and they spent the rest of the game in the penalty box. Guess it was frustrating to go 0-5.

Hey guys. Just checking in. Kinda quiet on the MD board. How’d the cheater teams do this weekend? Any new guest players this weekend show up on any of the teams? Heard Madlax invited #24 back for a “sneak” preview, along with a few 2023 DCDogs players. Hey, whatever it takes to win a 7th grade lacrosse game, right? By all accounts, none of you cheater teams cheat enough. Honestly, you’re all mediocre teams, and that’s being very kind. Madlax beats lowly hawks by two goals. Big Woop! Just more proof how bad all your cheater teams are.

What?? How did the Island teams do this weekend? They did great, thanks for asking. The Pack went undefeated again at the Tri State LAX Clash against some phenomenal competition. No. Nothing like the cheater teams. These were extremely good teams. The Pack continues to roll. Still undefeated, and still 100% on age. No holdbacks. An unbelievably impressive team. You should see the ball movement on offense, their shut down defense, the brick wall goalie play, and the best faceoff kid in the grade!

We’re off to Denver this weekend for the World Series of Youth Lacrosse to play the very best 2024 teams on the planet. Can’t wait! No subpar cheater teams that dilute the Field of teams. . No, no, no! Only the best teams at this, the finest of all tournaments. Have fun while we’re gone playing each other, in The Cheating Games.

Hey guys. Just checking in. Kinda quiet on the MD board. How’d the cheater teams do this weekend? Any new guest players this weekend show up on any of the teams? Heard Madlax invited #24 back for a “sneak” preview, along with a few 2023 DCDogs players. Hey, whatever it takes to win a 7th grade lacrosse game, right? By all accounts, none of you cheater teams cheat enough. Honestly, you’re all mediocre teams, and that’s being very kind. Madlax beats lowly hawks by two goals. Big Woop! Just more proof how bad all your cheater teams are.

What?? How did the Island teams do this weekend? They did great, thanks for asking. The Pack went undefeated again at the Tri State LAX Clash against some phenomenal competition. No. Nothing like the cheater teams. These were extremely good teams. The Pack continues to roll. Still undefeated, and still 100% on age. No holdbacks. An unbelievably impressive team. You should see the ball movement on offense, their shut down defense, the brick wall goalie play, and the best faceoff kid in the grade!

We’re off to Denver this weekend for the World Series of Youth Lacrosse to play the very best 2024 teams on the planet. Can’t wait! No subpar cheater teams that dilute the Field of teams. . No, no, no! Only the best teams at this, the finest of all tournaments. Have fun while we’re gone playing each other, in The Cheating Games.

Hey guys. Just checking in. Kinda quiet on the MD board. How’d the cheater teams do this weekend? Any new guest players this weekend show up on any of the teams? Heard Madlax invited #24 back for a “sneak” preview, along with a few 2023 DCDogs players. Hey, whatever it takes to win a 7th grade lacrosse game, right? By all accounts, none of you cheater teams cheat enough. Honestly, you’re all mediocre teams, and that’s being very kind. Madlax beats lowly hawks by two goals. Big Woop! Just more proof how bad all your cheater teams are.

What?? How did the Island teams do this weekend? They did great, thanks for asking. The Pack went undefeated again at the Tri State LAX Clash against some phenomenal competition. No. Nothing like the cheater teams. These were extremely good teams. The Pack continues to roll. Still undefeated, and still 100% on age. No holdbacks. An unbelievably impressive team. You should see the ball movement on offense, their shut down defense, the brick wall goalie play, and the best faceoff kid in the grade!

We’re off to Denver this weekend for the World Series of Youth Lacrosse to play the very best 2024 teams on the planet. Can’t wait! No subpar cheater teams that dilute the Field of teams. . No, no, no! Only the best teams at this, the finest of all tournaments. Have fun while we’re gone playing each other, in The Cheating Games.

Last time I looked, neither Express nor Taz could hang with Madlax or Hawks (and they're supposed to be two of the three best teams on the Island). But at least they came to play. Can't say the same about the Pack. Looking forward to seeing "smoker mom" and overweight Sal and Tony cheering from the sidelines next weekend on ESPN.

What were the most recent scores of the Madlax vs Express and Madlax vs Taz games?

Seen all these teams play the past couple of months. From MD to LI. No one is beating this Wolfpack team. You can trash me and I'm a MD guy. The teams in our area shoot it out against each other. Great games back and forth and the match-ups are great. But I have watched this Wolfpack dismantle teams over a whole game. You might get the jump on them at first, but they simply wear teams down. Their first lines across the board are ridiculously talented and there is very little drop off from there. Their secret in my view is they are very unselfish lacrosse players. I watched their attack make the extra pass when there didn't look like there was one there, The middies are work horses and the defense and goalie play very in tune with each other. Not a LI fan but this Lax team is legit. Bash all you want and that fine, but credit is due where its due.

Seen all these teams play the past couple of months. From MD to LI. No one is beating this Wolfpack team. You can trash me and I'm a MD guy. The teams in our area shoot it out against each other. Great games back and forth and the match-ups are great. But I have watched this Wolfpack dismantle teams over a whole game. You might get the jump on them at first, but they simply wear teams down. Their first lines across the board are ridiculously talented and there is very little drop off from there. Their secret in my view is they are very unselfish lacrosse players. I watched their attack make the extra pass when there didn't look like there was one there, The middies are work horses and the defense and goalie play very in tune with each other. Not a LI fan but this Lax team is legit. Bash all you want and that fine, but credit is due where its due.

I hear ya, and I can promise you I am not a Madlax parent. They (Madlax) haven't lost in a solid year and a half, and this year they picked up two offensive players that are significantly more impactful than #24 has been in the past. This team is much, much different than years past. They have 30 players and the competition they see in MD, DC and VA every weekend is definitely stronger than Express and Legacy.

What were the most recent scores of the Madlax vs Express and Madlax vs Taz games?

I hear ya, and I can promise you I am not a Madlax parent. They (Madlax) haven't lost in a solid year and a half, and this year they picked up two offensive players that are significantly more impactful than #24 has been in the past. This team is much, much different than years past. They have 30 players and the competition they see in MD, DC and VA every weekend is definitely stronger than Express and Legacy.

I hear ya, and I can promise you I am not a Madlax parent. They (Madlax) haven't lost in a solid year and a half, and this year they picked up two offensive players that are significantly more impactful than #24 has been in the past. This team is much, much different than years past. They have 30 players and the competition they see in MD, DC and VA every weekend is definitely stronger than Express and Legacy.

I am sorry but I don't see how on age teams can really consistently beat a team like Madlax. Size difference is just too much especially with 2 to 4 games on a Sunday to win the tournament and they are good lax players. I am not bashing holdback's either I get it, but it is just reality a year is a huge difference especially in a 13 or 14 year old. Testosterone the older kids going to be faster and stronger it is just reality. In high school evens out once everyone has hit puberty.

I am sorry but I don't see how on age teams can really consistently beat a team like Madlax. Size difference is just too much especially with 2 to 4 games on a Sunday to win the tournament and they are good lax players. I am not bashing holdback's either I get it, but it is just reality a year is a huge difference especially in a 13 or 14 year old. Testosterone the older kids going to be faster and stronger it is just reality. In high school evens out once everyone has hit puberty.

Madlax was already good and they picked up a bunch of new kids. They picked up two attack that are #19 good. Two mids that are #24 good. And they completely overhauled their defense. They are a completely different team than last year. Most of the kids that started last year are subs this year. I know WP is good too. Guess we will have to wait until NLF to see who is better.

Whats with the #'s. Every starter on that WP is as good as #19 and #24. You use these boys as examples of greatness...The whole WP attack is as good as #19 and the new boys and # 24 is not better than any of the WP middies. I've seen the teams, those boys are good but by no means any better than any of the WP starters. Get a grip

Whats with the #'s. Every starter on that WP is as good as #19 and #24. You use these boys as examples of greatness...The whole WP attack is as good as #19 and the new boys and # 24 is not better than any of the WP middies. I've seen the teams, those boys are good but by no means any better than any of the WP starters. Get a grip

WP rarely plays Express and Legacy. Having said that, they played Express once this year, and beat them 7-1. Could have been far, far worse. Played Legacy this past weekend, and it looked like WP was playing a very bad B team. The score could have been 20 to nothing, had WP wanted to go that route. WP usually plays the 2023 AA bracket, since few 2024 teams can give them a game. That's where they spend most of their time.
Their only loss of the year, was to an AA 2023 team, which is a top top AA 2023 team. WP came within an inch of winning the game in OT. Played the Hawks, and again, it wasn't a competitive game at all. Madlax just squeaked by the Hawks by 2 goals. Pack plays Hawks, and it's not anything close to a game. All the evidence points to WP beating Madlax by a significant margin. They are on a whole different level this year.