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You hit the nail on the head. That's why the "daddy crew" are unhappy and looking to leave their present team and merge with the formed Empire coach. Daddy coach will get what he wants from him.

Warriors can’t even make it to the finals of a B tourney.

^^^^ Don't have anything to say about the Warriors, but it was a huge haul $$$$$ tournament for 91, as a B tourney.

What happened to the Rebels?

S2S is the team to beat this weekend.

yes they are very good at beating B teams. very sad though that they need ninth graders to beat up on 2023's. bet u thought nobody knew about your illegal players. SMH

How many 9th graders did STS play?

Fake news. S2S doesn't have any 9th graders on the roster.

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Tryouts are fast approaching, any constructive thoughts?

That’s cute...you must be a politician, of course they wouldn’t be on the roster so technically you are telling the truth, but perhaps there were 9th graders nonetheless

Hmm constructive thoughts here? Highly unlikely but the opinions of stunands! Unlimited!

Take your pick, plenty to chose from. Kinda hard, kids going into 9th grade.

Your full of ...it. No 9t graders on S2S. 8th graders playing up on Jv maybe for their school, LI plays grade not AGE.

Wait, didn’t they leave Empire because they didn’t think the coach was any good?? Now they are going back?? That’s comical! After all the trash talk about that guy and getting everyone to quit the team, suddenly he’s the savior! For the record, I think the Empire coach is talented. He should run as fast as he can away! And he should run backwards so it’s harder for them to stab him in the back again.

I think he (Empire coach) left the team last year. Prior to that, some of his players joined Igloo. Fast forward, the coach is now looking to coach again. I don't know about him being talented, but maybe he has a few dedicated to the limited talents he does posses, maybe his style fits those, who knows. Many parents give some of these guys tooooo much credit for what they do. And sell their kid(s) out to anyone that comes along with unattainable promises. Some may be giving this guy a little to much credit, but it all boils down to the parents ego. Just think; most likely, some of the unhappy Igloo parents that left the team last year are still paying off, to this day the debt they accrued while playing for the team (WSYL) they hated being on last year. People stop and think. Good luck

They belong in the "B" bracket.

S2S has zero 9th graders. Stop with the bullsh*t.

need some feedback on the turtles. heard so many good things about them but haven't seen them at any tourneys. have they played yet? which tourneys?

lol! I’m sure you’re joking, but in case you’re not read back on this thread. They are a disaster. No tourneys. No practice. Awful parents. Terrible parents. Cancerous parents. Nice shiny helmets.

what do parents have to do with a team playing in tourneys? usually your team plays in at least 4 tourneys. are they playing in any upcoming tourneys?

They are playing at tristar this weekend. I think they have a great chance to win!

They are playing at tristar this weekend. I think they could win it

None yet. They’re playing this weekend though. Easiest schedule in the tourney. After that is a mystery. Save your money.

Sounds like a disgruntled parent who needs therapy with this amount of anger.

You’re correct about the disgruntled part. The therapy may be next. I was sold a bill of good that was never even close to delivered. Travel lax is not cheap and my son deserved more. Compound that with the group of parents who went there own way and this has been a completely wasted season. Stay as far away as you can. This team is a joke.

Can't be anymore disastrous, awful, terrible, cancerous, than the person you see every morning when you open your eyes and rub that bald head!

I guarantee, all these people talking garbage about any particular club, are the ones running to their tryouts. Pick a team, Outlaws, Rebels, rebels, 91, Express, Turtles, Legacy, the list goes on and on and you will find parents on those teams who aren't satisfied. Entire teams become dissatisfied with the Parent Organization and go their own way. Look at the Mighty Ducks. Oh, we were treated like a red headed step child, blah, blah, blah. The point is, at the end they couldn't draw the kids in and why do you think? People will have something to say anywhere you go. I see it every year at tryouts, so many kids wearing different club helmets and we only take 2 to 3 of those kids. I bet all the people talking garbage, have no clue about what's going on within a particular club. it's only gossip. But sometimes it's very funny.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they brought in a few guests this weekend.

Yes in deed. The same trash talker is a cancer at his own current club and all the parents hate him. He will be at our tryouts trying to get his mighty Jr Rabil on the team by trying to scare away existing players. The only thing is he doesn't know everyone gets along.

Like someone said, the teams mentioned will only back fill with 3-4 new players max. All this talk about organizations not providing enough,
" No tourneys. No practice. Awful parents. Terrible parents. Cancerous parents. Nice shiny helmets." it's all smoke & mirrors. Maybe 3,4 families leave. Mighty Jr. Rabil and his 2-3 sidekicks maybe, but the rest are content laughing at all the BS posted. But if they don't leave, eventually all of them will fall inline. Funny, a lot of people are curious about what one particular club is doing. Know what, it's too late, you had your chance.

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I guarantee, all these people talking garbage about any particular club, are the ones running to their tryouts. Pick a team, Outlaws, Rebels, rebels, 91, Express, Turtles, Legacy, the list goes on and on and you will find parents on those teams who aren't satisfied. Entire teams become dissatisfied with the Parent Organization and go their own way. Look at the Mighty Ducks. Oh, we were treated like a red headed step child, blah, blah, blah. The point is, at the end they couldn't draw the kids in and why do you think? People will have something to say anywhere you go. I see it every year at tryouts, so many kids wearing different club helmets and we only take 2 to 3 of those kids. I bet all the people talking garbage, have no clue about what's going on within a particular club. it's only gossip. But sometimes it's very funny. [/quote]

Why wouldn't parents bring their kids to other clubs tryouts? It would be notIntelligent to put all your eggs in 1 basket. Some reasons to shop other teams are and not limited to:

- Maybe your kid isn't good enough on current team to get playing time so why would you spend thousands to stay there and have them watch other kids play and practice? Find a team where they might get some playing time or even reps in practice for the $$$ parents are spending. Move from AA team to B or C so at least your 13 year old gets to develop. Your not going to get any better watching other kids play. You can watch pros on ESPN for free. If coaches think at 8th or 9th grade its too late to develop in lacrosse then they don't know anything about sports and those are not the coaches you want.
- Maybe you don't make your current club because new players come in better than your kid. If you don't go to other tryouts now you have no team to play on.
- Location. Maybe parents are tired of driving 45 minutes to practice and would like to find something closer.
- Promises not kept by current club. As we have seen above some clubs promise to do one thing and don't deliver. It's too expensive to hope that things will change at current club.
- Politics - If you are on a team full of coaches kids then those spots are closed. Also town associations. Many teams are full of kids from that town where coaches have a vested interested in developing them for High School. If your not from that town you are SOL even if you are good enough to play.
- Money - Move to another team and save enough money to take the family on a weekend getaway. Crazy that club lacrosse is so expensive that you can actually do that.

At the end of the day there are many reasons to look for or switch new teams and its not always because parents are jerks or crazy. And believe it or not most parents are realistic about their kids ability. Its usually because they are spending thousands of dollars and their kid is getting nothing out of it despite what was promised in tryouts. If you don't see any improvement in a 13 year old from the start of the season to the end then why stay? Your paying for a service which is to make kids better lacrosse players. Some parents like myself don't really care how many tournaments we win. I want to see my kid leaving practice and games with a smile on his face and throughout the year see my kid doing a new dodge or a better shot or better footwork on defense or some other kind of improvement.

If I don't like the food at one restaurant I decide not to go back there and spend my money elsewhere. Same thing with SOME lacrosse clubs it seems. They are serving bad food and then after a couple years consumers stop going there and they shut down. Don't blame it on the customers, its usually the food.

Lol! Nice attempt at reverse psychology! No one is going to that disaster.

I guarantee, all these people talking garbage about any particular club, are the ones running to their tryouts. Pick a team, Outlaws, Rebels, rebels, 91, Express, Turtles, Legacy, the list goes on and on and you will find parents on those teams who aren't satisfied. Entire teams become dissatisfied with the Parent Organization and go their own way. Look at the Mighty Ducks. Oh, we were treated like a red headed step child, blah, blah, blah. The point is, at the end they couldn't draw the kids in and why do you think? People will have something to say anywhere you go. I see it every year at tryouts, so many kids wearing different club helmets and we only take 2 to 3 of those kids. I bet all the people talking garbage, have no clue about what's going on within a particular club. it's only gossip. But sometimes it's very funny. [/quote]

Why wouldn't parents bring their kids to other clubs tryouts? It would be notIntelligent to put all your eggs in 1 basket. Some reasons to shop other teams are and not limited to:

- Maybe your kid isn't good enough on current team to get playing time so why would you spend thousands to stay there and have them watch other kids play and practice? Find a team where they might get some playing time or even reps in practice for the $$$ parents are spending. Move from AA team to B or C so at least your 13 year old gets to develop. Your not going to get any better watching other kids play. You can watch pros on ESPN for free. If coaches think at 8th or 9th grade its too late to develop in lacrosse then they don't know anything about sports and those are not the coaches you want.
- Maybe you don't make your current club because new players come in better than your kid. If you don't go to other tryouts now you have no team to play on.
- Location. Maybe parents are tired of driving 45 minutes to practice and would like to find something closer.
- Promises not kept by current club. As we have seen above some clubs promise to do one thing and don't deliver. It's too expensive to hope that things will change at current club.
- Politics - If you are on a team full of coaches kids then those spots are closed. Also town associations. Many teams are full of kids from that town where coaches have a vested interested in developing them for High School. If your not from that town you are SOL even if you are good enough to play.
- Money - Move to another team and save enough money to take the family on a weekend getaway. Crazy that club lacrosse is so expensive that you can actually do that.

At the end of the day there are many reasons to look for or switch new teams and its not always because parents are jerks or crazy. And believe it or not most parents are realistic about their kids ability. Its usually because they are spending thousands of dollars and their kid is getting nothing out of it despite what was promised in tryouts. If you don't see any improvement in a 13 year old from the start of the season to the end then why stay? Your paying for a service which is to make kids better lacrosse players. Some parents like myself don't really care how many tournaments we win. I want to see my kid leaving practice and games with a smile on his face and throughout the year see my kid doing a new dodge or a better shot or better footwork on defense or some other kind of improvement.

If I don't like the food at one restaurant I decide not to go back there and spend my money elsewhere. Same thing with SOME lacrosse clubs it seems. They are serving bad food and then after a couple years consumers stop going there and they shut down. Don't blame it on the customers, its usually the food.


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Very well stated.

If your kid is not getting playing time or the coaches don’t show up or cancel practice often, it’s time to look for another program, in the long run playing time and good coaching is much more important that T-shirts.

On the other hand some people are never happy, and it might not be every team that is the problem, you might be the problem

So after all the typing, where will your kid be trying out?

Right back at you. See you at tryouts for our team.

I’ll stick with my current team, but thanks. We are having a much more pleasant season since our troublemakers went back east! We literally wouldn’t go there if the team was free.

Anybody know anything about the teams from outside Long Island coming to TriStar this weekend for 2023? Good, not good?

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Laxachussets always have good teams. Tough hardworking kids. Usually big, not accusing holdbacks, just big and physical. But they are bringing 3 so I am assuming one of them is a true B/C team much like most of the 3rd teams in the age bracket around here.

Dukes National 2023 should be good If all their kids show up.

good to see Spallina taking care of this son and teammates at UA. When will UA learn??