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Thanks for that explanation about local lacrosse history. But what I was getting at is this; there is an international organization named FCA based in Kansas City that has been around for fifty years and is much bigger than lacrosse. Is that organization related to the youth lacrosse teams bearing the initials FCA? and if so, how/why did the international organization get involved in travel lacrosse teams, and don't they police the behavior of people using of their brand?

yes they are associated with the lax clubs, they are in other areas similar to the True programs. obviously they don't police the families behavior.

Why would they?? The Kelly name and what is has done for lacrosse in Baltimore is legendary.

yup, force marginal CH kids to play FCA and promoting the hold back culture...legendary!

I think they meant Calvert Hall going on the greatest run MIAA history with the greatest MIAA team in history (2019) with most of star players from FCA.

definitely, and most of that team will be legally old enough to buy & drink booze by the end of their freshman year in college.

That may be true, but man can they play some lacrosse in High School.

When these kids graduate from college and hit the real world. No one will care how old they are. The only people that care are those that whine about holdbacks. Guess what in high school and college your kid will be playing against older kids. Get used to it and have little James or Timothy hit the wall

So if it doesn't matter - why the need the need to hold back and cheat?

Such nonsense. Of course age does not matter to adults, but a year difference for boys ages 11 to 14, where kids are growing their fastest, is an advantage.

How about this - why don't YOU have Timothy hit the wall and then try again to compete with kids his own age?

you're right, when they get into the real world. but, why not let kids compete against kids and not young adults or in the case of Calvert Hall adults. Calvert Hall has some of the best collage age kids playing high school ball.

Be proud of your hold back as he crushes at the lower level. - Coming from a dad with a hold back.

Instead of posting on here... shouldn’t be running your sons Twitter and Instagram account.

Typical holdback response..While they want everyone to man up,,,they do the opposite and have their son play down. Years ago, We had a name for playing down.

Still do....

I don’t think holdbacks are the issue at CH; bringing kids in from all over the country on the “Kelly Scholarship” may be. As far as club all goes; FCA is notorious for not developing talent and simply looking for the next best thing.

Does the Kelly Scholarship include Healthy Holly books?

I don't think any of the better clubs do a very good job of developing talent. Some of the less competitive clubs do a good job, but lose the better kids to the top clubs.

Calver Hall never stops recruiting, they will always look to improve a position. If you are a top player at a certain position and attend CH, you aren't guaranteed a position. Example, my nephew was a defender, one of the best in the Baltimore, played on the top club team and was a D1 commit going into his Junior season. CH coach recruited some out of state defenders who were thought to be better players. Said nephew was going to be benched because of the incoming players from 3 states over.

A good question to ask a varsity coach before attending a school would be, if they recruit from out of state, how many kids on a roster, will you be recruiting every year attempting to find better talent than the current upper classmen on the team. Some schools only recruit for incoming players, once you are on the team, you will only lose your position to another player already in the school or an incoming freshman. Some poor kid shouldn't get cut his senior year because the coach recruited out of state players for one season.

you mean Holy?

don't know, but scholarships at some other schools that provide housing for students include free meals!

No. Health Holly. Pugh. Kelly.

How do the Calvert Hall club teams look this year? Will the best college aged kids be playing 2022 ball with you guys?

Calver Hall never stops recruiting, they will always look to improve a position. If you are a top player at a certain position and attend CH, you aren't guaranteed a position. Example, my nephew was a defender, one of the best in the Baltimore, played on the top club team and was a D1 commit going into his Junior season. CH coach recruited some out of state defenders who were thought to be better players. Said nephew was going to be benched because of the incoming players from 3 states over.

Who is your son, I mean nephew and how did it work out for him. Is he still going D1?

Is it common practice to recruit players and let them live with you? Aren’t there rules against this? Just asking for a friend.

Sad as it is and becoming the answers are No and No.

Maybe the Maryland schools should boycott playing CH. isn’t that what they did to St. Francis? Why should it be any different with lacrosse?

Name a decent MIAA school that doesn’t have out of state players.

CH won’t be top dog this year. Settle down.

Yes they will. Win it all again. Cant stop recruiting, coaching and talent they have. McD is trying with boarders and BL with their purchase of future boarding place will help. Rest,,just play for 2nd or 3rd at best

The point is, that a coach should not be recruiting out-of-state players and having them live with him. That doesn’t seem right. There are laws against that in college and it should not be different in high school. CH is not a boarding school. Because CH was so instrumental in ousting St. Francis from their schedule, you would think they would follow the rules. It is ridiculous. It doesn’t always come down to winning and losing. The lack of character is astonishing, just to get a “W”. I hope some of the really great players that sit the bench at CH get a clue and go to school that would like to have them; where they will play and make a difference.

LB does not. Possible that there are boys that come down from southern PA over years. But that's not what you're talking about.

LB best players play for FCA and yes they have a lefty attackmen/middie from of state that will start.

Kids from Canada are coming next year; Edge Lacrosse Club

Similarities to Gilman football before they took their act to SF. Things were a bed of roses on Roland Ave for a while but it didn’t end well.

If they can, they all do it now to some extent, and especially the MIAA teams around Balt.. The league is supposed to be for local players and students. The rules are crystal clear on what and what not is allowed. Recruiting out of state clearly not allowed. None of the coaches even pretend like they go by it now.

Character education at its best, as they say.

Difference is that Pogg brought in people that were not like Gilmans main student body. CH is not doing that. CH will thrive as they have for last few years, Time for the rest to break the rules

There is no rule about recruiting out of state. Not in the intent of the league but nothing in the rules.

Been going on in other sports for years..McD wrestling, GCS basketball to name a few.

Why wouldn't an out of state kid wants to go to a school that is #1 in the country in his sport? MIAA just happens to be the best lacrosse conference and CH is the best in that conference. Just bc the kids pick CH and not the others is no reason to bash CH. Not much else to celebrate about Balto. Harbor stinks. Orioles stink. Ravens stink. Hopkins stinks. Towson stinks. At least a HS is getting it right.

You obviously have not read the recruiting rules of MIAA. Clearly no recruiting , but yea, doesn't specifically say out of state.

Go to MIAA site and regulation and Guidelines and then come back.

LB has no out of state players. Starting lefty attackman lives in Catonsville and has lived there his entire life.

How was the attendance and talent level at FCA tryouts? I am guessing heavy on orange helmets with some scattered yellow and chrome red.

Come on out and see for yourself tonight.